Hiker who shot man says he'd do it again: NRA contributed to his self defense

[SMOKE 1,426]

Trails are not magnets for weirdos

yes they are. the next time you go look around.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

You wanna see a magnet for weirdos? Go to the urban public spaces they've established in NYC. I've never met a weirdo in a trail, unless sexual ####### makes people weird (which it doesn't).

[Peikko 1,575]

Next time? I hike all the time and unless you class people like me as weirdos, I have never seen one in 3 years of hiking at least once a week and often 3 times. I have hiked alone and in groups, less alone now because of the danger of wild beasts, not weirdos. I really have no idea what wilderness you guys frequent but I don't recognize it.

[SMOKE 1,426]

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't know anyone who does carry a weapon when out hiking in the wilderness, wild animals or not, and I belong to a very large and extremely active hiking club. There are things you can do to ensure safety of course and mostly not hiking alone is the best recommendation.

It depends where you go I'd expect - as a matter of course you probably wouldn't, nor do I know anyone who does.

But yes - hiking alone is a bit of a no-no (if for nothing else if you slip and break leg or something)

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Next time? I hike all the time and unless you class people like me as weirdos, I have never seen one in 3 years of hiking at least once a week and often 3 times. I have hiked alone and in groups, less alone now because of the danger of wild beasts, not weirdos. I really have no idea what wilderness you guys frequent but I don't recognize it.

The only 'weirdness' I've witnessed on trails is public sex, twice. Both times in the Hudson Valley. Closer to home, just teenagers who like to hear their own echos, nothing weirder than that, ever.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I don't know anyone who does carry a weapon when out hiking in the wilderness, wild animals or not, and I belong to a very large and extremely active hiking club. There are things you can do to ensure safety of course and mostly not hiking alone is the best recommendation.

I think it is perfectly appropriate to carry a gun when hiking for personal safety. What I disagree to though, is the notion that one must resort to lethal force when confronted with an adversary. There are so many non-lethal ways to protect oneself from harm, that using a gun should be the very last resort.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You wanna see a magnet for weirdos? Go to the urban public spaces they've established in NYC. I've never met a weirdo in a trail, unless sexual ####### makes people weird (which it doesn't).

Yep its getting close to summer - so I expect to see the bearded old man in the pantomime clothes pushing a pram containing a dog wearing a tutu (no lie - I see this guy on the streets all the time).

Saw a guy taking a ####### in the street near the park on Madison Avenue, and another guy urinating into a glass bottle.

[Peikko 1,575]

I don't know anyone who does carry a weapon when out hiking in the wilderness, wild animals or not, and I belong to a very large and extremely active hiking club. There are things you can do to ensure safety of course and mostly not hiking alone is the best recommendation.

I think it is perfectly appropriate to carry a gun when hiking for personal safety. What I disagree to though, is the notion that one must resort to lethal force when confronted with an adversary. There are so many non-lethal ways to protect oneself from harm, that using a gun should be the very last resort.

My point was that it is not considered a useful tool by the hiking community and as weight is often a primary consideration carrying a gun is more of a nuisance than anything else.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

You wanna see a magnet for weirdos? Go to the urban public spaces they've established in NYC. I've never met a weirdo in a trail, unless sexual ####### makes people weird (which it doesn't).

Yep its getting close to summer - so I expect to see the bearded old man in the pantomime clothes pushing a pram containing a dog wearing a tutu (no lie - I see this guy on the streets all the time).

Saw a guy taking a ####### in the street near the park on Madison Avenue, and another guy urinating into a glass bottle.

I was in the City with my wife to get an Indian visa recently, decided to go into a designated 'public' urban open space to wait. Comfortable enough, but about a third of the people in there were mentally not right. We didn't spend too much time in there.

... the hiking community ...

I think what Danno and SMOKE are trying to tell you is the hiking community == weirdos

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You wanna see a magnet for weirdos? Go to the urban public spaces they've established in NYC. I've never met a weirdo in a trail, unless sexual ####### makes people weird (which it doesn't).

Yep its getting close to summer - so I expect to see the bearded old man in the pantomime clothes pushing a pram containing a dog wearing a tutu (no lie - I see this guy on the streets all the time).

Saw a guy taking a ####### in the street near the park on Madison Avenue, and another guy urinating into a glass bottle.

I was in the City with my wife to get an Indian visa recently, decided to go into a designated 'public' urban open space to wait. Comfortable enough, but about a third of the people in there were mentally not right. We didn't spend too much time in there.

Yeah you also get a lot of that around (and in) Penn Station and the Port Authority.

A lot more of that sort of thing than on country trails. The mentally ill don't migrate to the countryside - they mill around in the areas around where they used to live or were let out of hospital.

[Peikko 1,575]

People work on the notion of reasonable risk. It is not reasonable or normal to carry a gun out hiking because the risks of encountering a situation where one would be useful are almost nil. Water purification tablets, blister packs, lots of water, high calorie snacks, sure amongst other useful items but a gun? Never.

You wanna see a magnet for weirdos? Go to the urban public spaces they've established in NYC. I've never met a weirdo in a trail, unless sexual ####### makes people weird (which it doesn't).

Yep its getting close to summer - so I expect to see the bearded old man in the pantomime clothes pushing a pram containing a dog wearing a tutu (no lie - I see this guy on the streets all the time).

Saw a guy taking a ####### in the street near the park on Madison Avenue, and another guy urinating into a glass bottle.

I was in the City with my wife to get an Indian visa recently, decided to go into a designated 'public' urban open space to wait. Comfortable enough, but about a third of the people in there were mentally not right. We didn't spend too much time in there.

... the hiking community ...

I think what Danno and SMOKE are trying to tell you is the hiking community == weirdos

Fair enough, but not dangerous weird.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

... the hiking community ...

I think what Danno and SMOKE are trying to tell you is the hiking community == weirdos

Well on that basis the gun community are weirdos too - given that they're shooting people to death and trying to get out of any responsibility.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

People work on the notion of reasonable risk. It is not reasonable or normal to carry a gun out hiking because the risks of encountering a situation where one would be useful are almost nil. Water purification tablets, blister packs, lots of water, high calorie snacks, sure amongst other useful items but a gun? Never.

Depends on where you're hiking. My 'usual' park is this place called Cheesequake, it's nice but bisected by the Parkway with half the part on one side and the other on the other side. What that translates to is very little wildlife, not counting squirrels. But there are parks out west where there's plenty of wildlife. Parks far away from anything resembling urban.

Well on that basis the gun community are weirdos too - given that they're shooting people to death and trying to get out of any responsibility.

Gun nuts aren't weird, just dangerous and worthy of incarceration.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Fair enough, but not dangerous weird.

Some of the people in the Ramblers Association in the UK were pretty weird - because of some property division on a 400 year old map they insist on enforcing their right of way through your property - even if it involves walking through your house (though that's a shameless exaggeration on my part).