Has This Happened to Anyone Else?!!!

[Peace be still 6]

TWO MONTHS SEVENTEEN DAYS for us......... at least you know that you were not denied!

you were put on AP??? Why?? We're not a muslim country... just wondering. I'm from Philippines too.

I DONT THINK SHE WAS ASKING A QUESTION...AND ITS PRETTY CLEAR (LOOK ABOVE) THAT SHE WAS WONDERING WHY HER FELLOW FILIPINA WAS PUT ON AP WHEN SHE CLEARLY SAID THAT A.) MUSLIM COUNTRIES GET APS AND B.) THE PHILIPPINES IS NOT A MUSLIM COUNTRY SO WHY GET AN AP. MORE IMPORTANTLY, SHE ALSO JUST JUMPED TO THE CONCLUSION THAT APS ARE JUST FOR MUSLIMS...

ALHAMDULLILLAH....

...she was wondering why she was put on AP because her fellow filipina is not from a muslim country...HOW IGNORANT RUDE AND STUPID CAN U GET?

taj'samericanwife I am with you 100% on all of your comments.

hahahaha,love you muslimlady...oh and FYI i am not muslim but i respect muslims and the religion VERY MUCH just as my husband respects my religion...it has never been an issue to convert or how our son should be muslim or not, we dont impose our religions on each other.

GOD/ALLAH is the same, and it doesn't matter what faith you come from just as long as you treat each other with respect. My dearest friends come from all religeous backgrounds. I believe there is only one judge and that is GOD/ALLAH himself and no one has the right to put anyone down because of their faith. So the love is returned to you as well taj'samericanwife. And i pray that we both have a blessed journey throughout this process my Sister.

[taj'samericanwife 0]

TWO MONTHS SEVENTEEN DAYS for us......... at least you know that you were not denied!

you were put on AP??? Why?? We're not a muslim country... just wondering. I'm from Philippines too.

I DONT THINK SHE WAS ASKING A QUESTION...AND ITS PRETTY CLEAR (LOOK ABOVE) THAT SHE WAS WONDERING WHY HER FELLOW FILIPINA WAS PUT ON AP WHEN SHE CLEARLY SAID THAT A.) MUSLIM COUNTRIES GET APS AND B.) THE PHILIPPINES IS NOT A MUSLIM COUNTRY SO WHY GET AN AP. MORE IMPORTANTLY, SHE ALSO JUST JUMPED TO THE CONCLUSION THAT APS ARE JUST FOR MUSLIMS...

ALHAMDULLILLAH....

...she was wondering why she was put on AP because her fellow filipina is not from a muslim country...HOW IGNORANT RUDE AND STUPID CAN U GET?

taj'samericanwife I am with you 100% on all of your comments.

hahahaha,love you muslimlady...oh and FYI i am not muslim but i respect muslims and the religion VERY MUCH just as my husband respects my religion...it has never been an issue to convert or how our son should be muslim or not, we dont impose our religions on each other.

GOD/ALLAH is the same, and it doesn't matter what faith you come from just as long as you treat each other with respect. My dearest friends come from all religeous backgrounds. I believe there is only one judge and that is GOD/ALLAH himself and no one has the right to put anyone down because of their faith. So the love is returned to you as well taj'samericanwife. And i pray that we both have a blessed journey throughout this process my Sister.

i just wanted to point it out that i am not muslim so that others will not think i am biased. when i was in elementary i learned the 4 major religions of the world and at a young age i learned to respect them. my mother never held her family back just because others were not in the same race or religion and i think it contributes alot for people to respect others who are not like them in terms or color and religion.

muslim lady... i pray too to GOD that you and your family are safe always and that your journey to be reunited soon will bring you much happiness. ASSALAMAYKUM

[Peace be still 6]

TWO MONTHS SEVENTEEN DAYS for us......... at least you know that you were not denied!

you were put on AP??? Why?? We're not a muslim country... just wondering. I'm from Philippines too.

I DONT THINK SHE WAS ASKING A QUESTION...AND ITS PRETTY CLEAR (LOOK ABOVE) THAT SHE WAS WONDERING WHY HER FELLOW FILIPINA WAS PUT ON AP WHEN SHE CLEARLY SAID THAT A.) MUSLIM COUNTRIES GET APS AND B.) THE PHILIPPINES IS NOT A MUSLIM COUNTRY SO WHY GET AN AP. MORE IMPORTANTLY, SHE ALSO JUST JUMPED TO THE CONCLUSION THAT APS ARE JUST FOR MUSLIMS...

ALHAMDULLILLAH....

...she was wondering why she was put on AP because her fellow filipina is not from a muslim country...HOW IGNORANT RUDE AND STUPID CAN U GET?

taj'samericanwife I am with you 100% on all of your comments.

hahahaha,love you muslimlady...oh and FYI i am not muslim but i respect muslims and the religion VERY MUCH just as my husband respects my religion...it has never been an issue to convert or how our son should be muslim or not, we dont impose our religions on each other.

GOD/ALLAH is the same, and it doesn't matter what faith you come from just as long as you treat each other with respect. My dearest friends come from all religeous backgrounds. I believe there is only one judge and that is GOD/ALLAH himself and no one has the right to put anyone down because of their faith. So the love is returned to you as well taj'samericanwife. And i pray that we both have a blessed journey throughout this process my Sister.

i just wanted to point it out that i am not muslim so that others will not think i am biased. when i was in elementary i learned the 4 major religions of the world and at a young age i learned to respect them. my mother never held her family back just because others were not in the same race or religion and i think it contributes alot for people to respect others who are not like them in terms or color and religion.

muslim lady... i pray too to GOD that you and your family are safe always and that your journey to be reunited soon will bring you much happiness. ASSALAMAYKUM

INSHALLAH INSHALLAH

[Peace be still 6]

TWO MONTHS SEVENTEEN DAYS for us......... at least you know that you were not denied!

you were put on AP??? Why?? We're not a muslim country... just wondering. I'm from Philippines too.

I DONT THINK SHE WAS ASKING A QUESTION...AND ITS PRETTY CLEAR (LOOK ABOVE) THAT SHE WAS WONDERING WHY HER FELLOW FILIPINA WAS PUT ON AP WHEN SHE CLEARLY SAID THAT A.) MUSLIM COUNTRIES GET APS AND B.) THE PHILIPPINES IS NOT A MUSLIM COUNTRY SO WHY GET AN AP. MORE IMPORTANTLY, SHE ALSO JUST JUMPED TO THE CONCLUSION THAT APS ARE JUST FOR MUSLIMS...

ALHAMDULLILLAH....

...she was wondering why she was put on AP because her fellow filipina is not from a muslim country...HOW IGNORANT RUDE AND STUPID CAN U GET?

taj'samericanwife I am with you 100% on all of your comments.

hahahaha,love you muslimlady...oh and FYI i am not muslim but i respect muslims and the religion VERY MUCH just as my husband respects my religion...it has never been an issue to convert or how our son should be muslim or not, we dont impose our religions on each other.

GOD/ALLAH is the same, and it doesn't matter what faith you come from just as long as you treat each other with respect. My dearest friends come from all religeous backgrounds. I believe there is only one judge and that is GOD/ALLAH himself and no one has the right to put anyone down because of their faith. So the love is returned to you as well taj'samericanwife. And i pray that we both have a blessed journey throughout this process my Sister.

i just wanted to point it out that i am not muslim so that others will not think i am biased. when i was in elementary i learned the 4 major religions of the world and at a young age i learned to respect them. my mother never held her family back just because others were not in the same race or religion and i think it contributes alot for people to respect others who are not like them in terms or color and religion.

muslim lady... i pray too to GOD that you and your family are safe always and that your journey to be reunited soon will bring you much happiness. ASSALAMAYKUM

taj'samericanwife Walaikum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu Akht

[Steve and Nor 0]

It is so sad with the way things are in this thread. I am a Filipina and I am not saying no Filipina can get an AP. It happens to anybody from anywhere in this world. I just wish you learn to forgive and spread love instead. If we happen to offend others, please forgive us. It was just an opinion of an honest person and for sure didnt meant to put up a fight.

We are peace loving anyway. Spread love to the world. Smile and dont put up a fight.

I would rather be back in my forum where everybody understands everybody.

Goodluck to all of us.

[K-JForever29 0]

Well i have personaly contacted USICS about DV visa`s why not in PAKISTAN or INDIA they said bcz in those countries many ppl comes to USA and this offer is only for those countries where ppl donot comes to america allot and let me tell you one thing I M LIVING IN SAUDI ARABIAFOR 18 YEARS I KNOW ARABIAN MUCH BETTER AND MOSTLY ( EGYPTIANS ) who got married to US CITIZEN they disapeard after getting GREEN CARD or CITIZENSHIP .im sorry but its 95% TRUTH.

Thanks

well are you going to do the same? are you one of the 95% because i can bet my life that my husband will not dissapear after he gets his greencard

WELL WELL WELL !!! that you have also some narrow thoughts U CAN NEVER JUDGE ANYONE B4 U EVEN KNOW THEM and i will be in other 5% and u cannot tell whats future and u can never say or bet that ur life will never disapear after he gets GC and let me tell u one thing plz behave dont be aggravated bcz this thing creat HUGE PROBS in HUSBAND AND WIFE and i hope bcz of your RUDE BEHAVIOUR u will not hav anyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy prb with your that you that man whose BETTED .

THANK U !!!

oh and now you are saying my husband can run away after getting his green card through me? who is narrow minded here? isnt it you? besides why are you even thinking my husband will do that? do you know him? did i say that guy would run away when he gest his green card from his us citizen wife? i asked him, would he do that? i didnt say he would do it, i said my husband would not do it.

and yeah and fiaz and brenda, u dont have to worry that i will be aggrevated because of this, this will not cause a tiny bit of problem in my marriage. do you think my husband and i would be affected by what people say around here? im going to approach him later on and say are u just with me becaause of my greencard? what a joke to think we would get affected by this! this is too hilarious for you to even think that

Just wondering guys, aren't we all here in VJ to educate and learn? So why take someone's response/ query too personal? Taj'samericanwife, why being so defensive about your religion and husband? Nobody is perfect and none of us is God, who is the ONLY ONE who could tell/ pin point what our future will be. You think those Americans who married those people who had left them after they got their green card knew they were/are being used? Who are you to be certain about thing? It's really great that you trust your husband that much but you still can't deny the fact that anything is possible to happen whether we like the results or not. We can't hold our future on our hands, especially in marriage. This is one of the risks of being in love/ getting married and most especially to us, marrying someone from another country. But I still wish what you said about your relationship with your husband would come true. Be open minded and stay cool. We are humans who have the right to make mistakes and learn from them.

Being a member of VJ, we must consider the fact that many of us came from different countries which have different beliefs, cultures/ traditions and languages which differs us from one another. So we should give extra understanding and not take things too personal. I didn't use the word "seriously" because most of the things we write here are serious matters. So please, let's unite and help each other so we could be with our love ones instead of putting negative meaning to one's comment. And please, Muslims and Christians, let's refrain from judging people based on our religious belief for no one can tell who is right and wrong among us. Religions are only man made, not God.

REMEMBER. nothing is CERTAIN in this world except CHANGE AND DEATH.

PS

This message is not only intended for you Taj'samercanwife, this applies to ALL VJers. So don't take it too personal, OK? I only mentioned your name coz you're the one who wrote the first accusation about Filipino women. Before your comment, it was a plain query and information.

[Steve and Nor 0]

I agree with your opinion.

God is the only religion we can rely on.

And yes, if we knew that it would happen to us in the future, then we would never have done such a foolish thing of marrying the wrong person.

But God knows and HE directs our paths, so we need constant praying and ask for his guidance and blessing that the marriage we have will stand the tests of time and we will emerge victorious at the end knowing we have GOD who has been with this marriage through thick and thin, for better or worse ,in sickness and in health, for richer and for poorer, with GFC or none!

[Terca 6]

im not the one who told her to be educated in the first place.

I did not understand what you meant with this comment.

Are you using the bold in my comment to answer someone else or where you commenting directly on mine?

In any case, lemme clarify to avoid misunderstandings. Sometimes we assume the worst because of our own experiences with related issues. I wanted to provide as an outsider reader my view on how I saw the original comment. To me it was very clear that our fellow Philli VJ'er was ignorant about the issue and just needed someone with more knowledge to educate her on the matter, you clearly have more knowledge and could have done so without the offensive remarks about filipinas as you did on you subsequent post where you omitted any offensive remarks. It is ok to not have the knowledge about something because we are all learning here, it is something else to be accused of being prejudiced based on that.

Another thing is that you implied on your third comment as if someone was out to get your husband or attack his religion, how did you come to that conclusion based on the comment from tngirl? You are right, when it comes to one's family and believes everyone is protective!!! but did I somehow missed the insult?

Let me add that any insults that have been directed at you afterwards are also extremely tasteless, there is no need for us adults to resort to that vocabulary. I hope that I have not offended anyone with my comments, VJ is a great learning tool and we should all feel comfortable and welcome participating here.

Being a member of VJ, we must consider the fact that many of us came from different countries which have different beliefs, cultures/ traditions and languages which differs us from one another. So we should give extra understanding

Simply put, this is how i feel also... In fact with this topic alone I have learned some myself...

[Steve and Nor 0]

im not the one who told her to be educated in the first place.

I did not understand what you meant with this comment.

Are you using the bold in my comment to answer someone else or where you commenting directly on mine?

In any case, lemme clarify to avoid misunderstandings. Sometimes we assume the worst because of our own experiences with related issues. I wanted to provide as an outsider reader my view on how I saw the original comment. To me it was very clear that our fellow Philli VJ'er was ignorant about the issue and just needed someone with more knowledge to educate her on the matter, you clearly have more knowledge and could have done so without the offensive remarks about filipinas as you did on you subsequent post where you omitted any offensive remarks. It is ok to not have the knowledge about something because we are all learning here, it is something else to be accused of being prejudiced based on that.

Another thing is that you implied on your third comment as if someone was out to get your husband or attack his religion, how did you come to that conclusion based on the comment from tngirl? You are right, when it comes to one's family and believes everyone is protective!!! but did I somehow missed the insult?

Let me add that any insults that have been directed at you afterwards are also extremely tasteless, there is no need for us adults to resort to that vocabulary. I hope that I have not offended anyone with my comments, VJ is a great learning tool and we should all feel comfortable and welcome participating here.

Being a member of VJ, we must consider the fact that many of us came from different countries which have different beliefs, cultures/ traditions and languages which differs us from one another. So we should give extra understanding

Simply put, this is how i feel also... In fact with this topic alone I have learned some myself...

Yes, I agree with you Terca.

If somebody is ignorant enough to give an honest opinion, and if we think we know more, then we can explain to that person in a nice way possible without resorting to giving out insulting words.

Nobody is educated enough to insult anybody.

[chinese_mutt 11]

You posted this several times....

You are in what is called "AP" (Administrative Processing), which happens a lot to people from Muslim countries and some others. It's basically additional name and security checks, and can last anything from a couple of weeks to a year.

Let me clarify, sorry I've been gone away for two days celebrating with my friends on her upcoming wedding.

First, I merely asked because... (SEE post above).... Penguin_ie was the one who SPECIFICALLY mentioned muslim countries. So why is no one shooting him? Hummm... that makes me wanna puke. I asked her, specifically... as a Filipina. Because... LET ME JUST SAY THIS, we do have Filipino muslim brothers and sisters here. As I've read so much stuffs about people getting AP because of their muslim names. I just wondered. SPECIFICALLY about this case. If I didn't make that clear... then I'm sorry. I just assumed that everybody will understand it. Oh, yeah... I have to keep reminding myself that VJ is a multi-cultural group and some post might be taken out of context.

Second, no I am not an ignorant ######.. as most of you imply! This made me laugh out loud. Geez!!! You can start judging about my IQ just because I posted that? Humm... who's ignorant now? And who's judging who? People could've been polite enough to ask for a clarification. But I guess, that's too much to ask. As for me, I always ask for clarifications, knowing that not everybody here has a clear grasp of their english language. I have never felt the need to post a 'righteous' indignation post unless it is a SPECIFIC attack... meaning that the post when read by all rational human being arrives at the same conclusion. Clearly, not everybody arrived at the same conclusion as Tajamerica did. You could've asked for a clarification and waited for it before launching on this whole debacle.. but that's too kind and too easy.. why not go on all out attack mode? Hummm.. I wonder what happened to you to become such a bitter person.

Third, I have never EVER said anything bad about muslim countries or any races for that matter. My family is an immigrant in the Philippines, how can I stand and judge immigrants to US from whatever country you are from. I don't care what your race is.. I consider my friends based on their honesty, their integrity, and their character. AND I would never consider any racist as my friend.... so am I a racist? NO!!! I view people based on their own personal character. If you go to March Filers thread.... I even asked a couple of people to teach me what they were saying cause I'm a wide traveller and I like learning new cultures. BUT you gotta be kidding me if you don't really believe that MENA countries gets more AP than the rest. You're either blind or pretends to be blind if you don't know this or see this coming. The USA is at war with some MENA countries, do you think they would just shrug their shoulders and let everybody from these places come in?! You live in a delusional world if you think so, even the kindest governement will impose strict background checks just to make sure no hanky panky is being done with the system. I'm sorry.. that's the truth. Hopefully, soon we all would live without this racial and religion divisions... and that will be the day when you can truly say that there is no discrimination in the processing of papers to US.

Fourth, oh please... tajamerica's wife... if you just read the entire thread... including all post right before I asked my questions, and as you said you weren't stupid, then you would've understood the context of my post. BUT I guess that's too much to ask, you just gotta have to defend your religion.. and jump on just anybody who said remotely anything about muslims. If you feel this need to constantly argue about your religion, then perhaps you need to re-evaluate your own religious views, in fact, I suggest you re-evalute your own hateful views about other religions. I'm a christian, I have muslim friends, I have Buddist friends, I have Catholic friends, I have Non-sectarian friends, and they can all tell you we all just get along fine. You know what, this is why we have so many problems about religious divisions... if people could just step back and analyze before they attack someone... then perhaps we'd all live in some semblance of peace. Everybody wants to raise their "righteous" indignation flag before they actually think. That's bad, for this generation and for the generations to come. Man is a rational being... be polite and you will get polite answers. Don't make no pointed comments of assumptions about other people, I'm not a muslim but I think this moral code is beyond religion. Think about it, there are a few of muslim people here telling you the kind of person that I've been when interacting with them. You took the opportunity to paint something bad about me just so your religious indignation will be justified. I'm do not know your husband, I would not pass judgement on him base on his religion alone. If you have gone though tough racial discrimination to have so much 'righteous' indignation about such a trivial post that is subject to a lot of interpretation, then I pity you.. because you will have a tough time living in this world. You will constantly have to battle this issue for the rest of your life... and believe me there are a lot racist in this world for you to battle with. Why not just accept what is.. and strive for change. Change that does not come from attacking even the simpliest comment? Change comes from you. If you want to be respected, learn to give respect. If you do not understand something, ask for a clarification. We have enough divisions in this world, if only most of us took the time to ask for clarifications whenever we don't understand something or if we think we arrived arrived at the wrong conlusion, then we wouldn't have so many things to fight about.

Finally, to the rest of my online VJ friends who took the time to defend me my sincere Thanks. I was gone for two days I logged in for a few minutes and posted something on March Filers and Castaway thread and did not see this. To my husband, who jumped in on my defense, don't worry... I'm not affected by this. I've lived with so much racial issues all my life and have come out quite a balanced person. THIS will be my last post about this issue. This religious war is tedious and have no earthly solutions anyway, I'd leave that to God. Far be it for me to judge such an eternal question on who's God is real or not; or which cultural race is better. I will not stoop so low as to actually go into details about this whole Muslim-Christian thing. I live by a universal code which is decency, honor, acceptance. I do not tolerate... I accept. And even if there are one or two here who attacked my post while taken out of context, I do not hate any muslim brothers or sisters. In fact, I feel horrible to have resurfaced your respective 'issues' with your religions and that of the others. If you see every comment about muslims and take it as bad, then I suggest you meditate on the words of your God. Live and let live, my friend, live and let live.

Thank you. I hope this matter is laid to rest. I refuse to respond to anymore comments. Let's focus on the OPs question.

[Natashas_eyes 0]

My husband had his first interview on April 2nd, at which time they kept our correspondence and photos. The consulate did not get back to him until April 21st. They asked him to return for a second interview. I flew there to be with him and to go to his second interview which was on April 27th. They also interviewed me at this time. After the interview, she said that we could go and that they would contact us at a later time. My husband asked if they were refusing us at this time, she said no. He asked if she could tell us when they would contact us and she said no. The only thing she would say was that we were still under review. We are STILL waiting for them to contact us with an answer 15 days later. Can anyone help us and let us know if they have any experience with this sort of thing and what we might expect? As you can understand, we are "on the edge of our seats" awaiting our verdict

In our case, we were only told he would be called and then less than a week later, they returned everything back to USCIS. It is too soon to have details as to why, but both USCIS and the consulate tell us he was approved by both and it basically sounds like the consulate is wanting USCIS to take a second look. They say we have not been denied, but it feels like, lol. We weren't told they returned it until I made an inquiry.

Wishing you good luck

[Bern. 3]

After reading this entire post, I can see why the world has so much conflict. Next time, if someone rubs you the wrong way or if they say something that is not correct, then simply tell them, ''I don't think this is right - here is why.'' Now, I'm not saying people do not get angry, because they certainly do but nobody is perfect. No one knows why the US Government does what they do. Only the people on the inside and even them, I'm sure do not fully grip what we are going through. I'm sure we are all in pain, and missing our loved ones. But anger will not solve or speed up the process. When Tngirl asked that question I'm pretty sure she did not mean to offend. Questions are not meant to offend, statements are.

I hope everyone has a splendid day and a easy journey.

[tnguy21809 0]

After reading this entire post, I can see why the world has so much conflict. Next time, if someone rubs you the wrong way or if they say something that is not correct, then simply tell them, ''I don't think this is right - here is why.'' Now, I'm not saying people do not get angry, because they certainly do but nobody is perfect. No one knows why the US Government does what they do. Only the people on the inside and even them, I'm sure do not fully grip what we are going through. I'm sure we are all in pain, and missing our loved ones. But anger will not solve or speed up the process. When Tngirl asked that question I'm pretty sure she did not mean to offend. Questions are not meant to offend, statements are.

I hope everyone has a splendid day and a easy journey.

VERY WELL SAID!!!!! There are good and bad in all races all over the world. I have learned the ones who cry discrimination and assume everyone else is against them are the most racist. Taj and muslim lady literally attacked tngirl and beat her, screaming racist the whole time not even stopping to check the facts first. We are very new to the whole visa process and all of the terms. Someone said "AP happens in most muslim countries and some others" So she just read that and asked not insinuating that it couldn't happen anywhere but wanting more info, and the dogs attacked!!!! (no people don't get all defensive! I'm not calling you dogs just using a term) She wasn't even around to comment. Then when I tried to explain it was too late they had made up their minds and all they could say was "WHATEVER, SURE, OK, RIGHT!!!! things like that being all smartallecky.

Just before you start name calling and attacking people at least find out first if what was said was the way you took it. I do have to say that at least one of the two apologized to her. I don't know if it was sincere or not but i believe that since it was done by pm it was. Unlike myself, Ivy is a good person inside and out and she harbors no bad feelings or thoughts for ANYONE!!!! I on the other hand have a tendency to not like a lot of people! not because of where they come from or what they believe but from being the way they are. (mainly things like being liars and thieves!!) I just want things to go quickly and smoothly and get my wife here so we can start our life together and enjoy whatever time we have left together.