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i have a question. i'm a bit confused with this. if we get married at the home by imam, (just a islamic wedding) one that doesn't get filed at the consulate. would it wreck our k-1? i am under the impression that an islamic marriage is not a legal marriage in the usa. i've heard different things on this, so i was wondering if anyone had the facts on this.

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If the ceremony is seen as a legal marriage in that country then you would be considered married.

You should go to the MENA regional forum to get feedback from others going through Casablanca.

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If the ceremony is seen as a legal marriage in that country then you would be considered married.

You should go to the MENA regional forum to get feedback from others going through Casablanca.

ok thanks. but i thought that an islamic marriage is not concidered a legal marriage in us, it is not done by the aduol, just imam, and is not sent into the consulate

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i have a question. i'm a bit confused with this. if we get married at the home by imam, (just a islamic wedding) one that doesn't get filed at the consulate. would it wreck our k-1? i am under the impression that an islamic marriage is not a legal marriage in the usa. i've heard different things on this, so i was wondering if anyone had the facts on this.

The US recognizes any legal foreign marriage. If it is legal, it is recognized. If you get married before the K-1 is issued and your fiance comes to the US, you will have to swtich to an I-130 or CR-1 visa. This is covered by the age old quote..."You pays your nickle and you takes your choice" You cannot do it both ways. If you are trying to satisfy some requirement of islam, then a "phoney" wedding would not do. A legal wedding will void the K-1.

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i have a question. i'm a bit confused with this. if we get married at the home by imam, (just a islamic wedding) one that doesn't get filed at the consulate. would it wreck our k-1? i am under the impression that an islamic marriage is not a legal marriage in the usa. i've heard different things on this, so i was wondering if anyone had the facts on this.

The US recognizes any legal foreign marriage. If it is legal, it is recognized. If you get married before the K-1 is issued and your fiance comes to the US, you will have to swtich to an I-130 or CR-1 visa. This is covered by the age old quote..."You pays your nickle and you takes your choice" You cannot do it both ways. If you are trying to satisfy some requirement of islam, then a "phoney" wedding would not do. A legal wedding will void the K-1.

so the usa does see an islamic marriage as a legal marriage? so even if it not registered thru the consulate, it would still count :huh:

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i have a question. i'm a bit confused with this. if we get married at the home by imam, (just a islamic wedding) one that doesn't get filed at the consulate. would it wreck our k-1? i am under the impression that an islamic marriage is not a legal marriage in the usa. i've heard different things on this, so i was wondering if anyone had the facts on this.

The US recognizes any legal foreign marriage. If it is legal, it is recognized. If you get married before the K-1 is issued and your fiance comes to the US, you will have to swtich to an I-130 or CR-1 visa. This is covered by the age old quote..."You pays your nickle and you takes your choice" You cannot do it both ways. If you are trying to satisfy some requirement of islam, then a "phoney" wedding would not do. A legal wedding will void the K-1.

so the usa does see an islamic marriage as a legal marriage? so even if it not registered thru the consulate, it would still count :huh:

It will not be considered a legal marriage as long as you don't go to the consulate in Casablanca and get a notorize letter and eligiability to marry and then to the Rabat to the Minister of Foreign Affairs to get permission to marry. The Imam would just be comming to your fiance's family home to bless the relationship. So you will be fine. Don't use the Phrase Married in a Islamic Ceremony. My dear this is not even considered a legal Marriage in Morocco. You have to go the courts in Morocco and yes you are correct about the Adul needing to marry you legally. So you are just having an engagement ceremony. Just know that you are not married in Islam.

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i have a question. i'm a bit confused with this. if we get married at the home by imam, (just a islamic wedding) one that doesn't get filed at the consulate. would it wreck our k-1? i am under the impression that an islamic marriage is not a legal marriage in the usa. i've heard different things on this, so i was wondering if anyone had the facts on this.

The US recognizes any legal foreign marriage. If it is legal, it is recognized. If you get married before the K-1 is issued and your fiance comes to the US, you will have to swtich to an I-130 or CR-1 visa. This is covered by the age old quote..."You pays your nickle and you takes your choice" You cannot do it both ways. If you are trying to satisfy some requirement of islam, then a "phoney" wedding would not do. A legal wedding will void the K-1.

so the usa does see an islamic marriage as a legal marriage? so even if it not registered thru the consulate, it would still count :huh:

The US does not decide one religions marriage is legal and another's is not. Do you think they say Islamic marriage is not legal but Catholic marriage is? Jewish? Hindu? Of course, a legal marriage is a legal marriage by any religious denomination IF it is recognized in the country where it is performed, that is a question only the OP can answer. I am not sure by what is meant by "registered with the consulate". US consulates do not register marriages. That is done under the laws of the country (state, county, whatever) where the marriage is performed. It is simple, IF you are legally married, you cannot process a K-1 visa.

Correct me if my assumption is wrong. I believe the OP asks this question in the hopes of being able to continue with a K-1 visa (generally faster) and meet some religious demand of Islam for an Islamic marriage or whatever (not familiar with the customs, forgive me) If the marriage is not "legal" how would it meet the customs of Islam? A Catholic church would not consider a phoney ceremony to be a "Catholic marriage" to meet the traditions of that sacrament of the church and I doubt you would find a priest willing to do it just so you could run off and get married later by the JP.

I am just saying this may jeapordize the K-1 and/or not satisfy Islamic tradition.

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moved from K-1 Fiance(e) Visa Process & Procedures to mena forum, as this is a common topic discussed in that regional forum.

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i have a question. i'm a bit confused with this. if we get married at the home by imam, (just a islamic wedding) one that doesn't get filed at the consulate. would it wreck our k-1? i am under the impression that an islamic marriage is not a legal marriage in the usa. i've heard different things on this, so i was wondering if anyone had the facts on this.

The US recognizes any legal foreign marriage. If it is legal, it is recognized. If you get married before the K-1 is issued and your fiance comes to the US, you will have to swtich to an I-130 or CR-1 visa. This is covered by the age old quote..."You pays your nickle and you takes your choice" You cannot do it both ways. If you are trying to satisfy some requirement of islam, then a "phoney" wedding would not do. A legal wedding will void the K-1.

so the usa does see an islamic marriage as a legal marriage? so even if it not registered thru the consulate, it would still count :huh:

It will not be considered a legal marriage as long as you don't go to the consulate in Casablanca and get a notorize letter and eligiability to marry and then to the Rabat to the Minister of Foreign Affairs to get permission to marry. The Imam would just be comming to your fiance's family home to bless the relationship. So you will be fine. Don't use the Phrase Married in a Islamic Ceremony. My dear this is not even considered a legal Marriage in Morocco. You have to go the courts in Morocco and yes you are correct about the Adul needing to marry you legally. So you are just having an engagement ceremony. Just know that you are not married in Islam.

ok we had a engagement ceremony back in october 2008, i was told if we did this then we would be looked at as being married and able to stay in same hotel room like if wwe went to other city

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i have a question. i'm a bit confused with this. if we get married at the home by imam, (just a islamic wedding) one that doesn't get filed at the consulate. would it wreck our k-1? i am under the impression that an islamic marriage is not a legal marriage in the usa. i've heard different things on this, so i was wondering if anyone had the facts on this.

The US recognizes any legal foreign marriage. If it is legal, it is recognized. If you get married before the K-1 is issued and your fiance comes to the US, you will have to swtich to an I-130 or CR-1 visa. This is covered by the age old quote..."You pays your nickle and you takes your choice" You cannot do it both ways. If you are trying to satisfy some requirement of islam, then a "phoney" wedding would not do. A legal wedding will void the K-1.

so the usa does see an islamic marriage as a legal marriage? so even if it not registered thru the consulate, it would still count :huh:

The US does not decide one religions marriage is legal and another's is not. Do you think they say Islamic marriage is not legal but Catholic marriage is? Jewish? Hindu? Of course, a legal marriage is a legal marriage by any religious denomination IF it is recognized in the country where it is performed, that is a question only the OP can answer. I am not sure by what is meant by "registered with the consulate". US consulates do not register marriages. That is done under the laws of the country (state, county, whatever) where the marriage is performed. It is simple, IF you are legally married, you cannot process a K-1 visa.

Correct me if my assumption is wrong. I believe the OP asks this question in the hopes of being able to continue with a K-1 visa (generally faster) and meet some religious demand of Islam for an Islamic marriage or whatever (not familiar with the customs, forgive me) If the marriage is not "legal" how would it meet the customs of Islam? A Catholic church would not consider a phoney ceremony to be a "Catholic marriage" to meet the traditions of that sacrament of the church and I doubt you would find a priest willing to do it just so you could run off and get married later by the JP.

I am just saying this may jeapordize the K-1 and/or not satisfy Islamic tradition.

aww yeah i get what you mean, just wasn't sure of this, not sure it is real marriage or what really

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i have a question. i'm a bit confused with this. if we get married at the home by imam, (just a islamic wedding) one that doesn't get filed at the consulate. would it wreck our k-1? i am under the impression that an islamic marriage is not a legal marriage in the usa. i've heard different things on this, so i was wondering if anyone had the facts on this.

The US recognizes any legal foreign marriage. If it is legal, it is recognized. If you get married before the K-1 is issued and your fiance comes to the US, you will have to swtich to an I-130 or CR-1 visa. This is covered by the age old quote..."You pays your nickle and you takes your choice" You cannot do it both ways. If you are trying to satisfy some requirement of islam, then a "phoney" wedding would not do. A legal wedding will void the K-1.

so the usa does see an islamic marriage as a legal marriage? so even if it not registered thru the consulate, it would still count :huh:

The US does not decide one religions marriage is legal and another's is not. Do you think they say Islamic marriage is not legal but Catholic marriage is? Jewish? Hindu? Of course, a legal marriage is a legal marriage by any religious denomination IF it is recognized in the country where it is performed, that is a question only the OP can answer. I am not sure by what is meant by "registered with the consulate". US consulates do not register marriages. That is done under the laws of the country (state, county, whatever) where the marriage is performed. It is simple, IF you are legally married, you cannot process a K-1 visa.

Correct me if my assumption is wrong. I believe the OP asks this question in the hopes of being able to continue with a K-1 visa (generally faster) and meet some religious demand of Islam for an Islamic marriage or whatever (not familiar with the customs, forgive me) If the marriage is not "legal" how would it meet the customs of Islam? A Catholic church would not consider a phoney ceremony to be a "Catholic marriage" to meet the traditions of that sacrament of the church and I doubt you would find a priest willing to do it just so you could run off and get married later by the JP.

I am just saying this may jeapordize the K-1 and/or not satisfy Islamic tradition.

In Morocco an American Citizen must get an eligibilty to marry from the US Embassy in order to get married even in a Islamic Ceremony. The courts in Morocco will not legally look at the OP as being legally married because she would not have this documentation from the Embassy and the Minsister of Foreign Affairs to get married. Moroccan nationals have to go to their local courts themselves to get permission to marry. This will just be a blessing of the relationship and by no uncertain terms will this be a legal marriage. I stated in my earlier writtings that the OP must not call this a Islamic Wedding Ceremony because even according to their customs this is not legal.

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i have a question. i'm a bit confused with this. if we get married at the home by imam, (just a islamic wedding) one that doesn't get filed at the consulate. would it wreck our k-1? i am under the impression that an islamic marriage is not a legal marriage in the usa. i've heard different things on this, so i was wondering if anyone had the facts on this.

The US recognizes any legal foreign marriage. If it is legal, it is recognized. If you get married before the K-1 is issued and your fiance comes to the US, you will have to swtich to an I-130 or CR-1 visa. This is covered by the age old quote..."You pays your nickle and you takes your choice" You cannot do it both ways. If you are trying to satisfy some requirement of islam, then a "phoney" wedding would not do. A legal wedding will void the K-1.

so the usa does see an islamic marriage as a legal marriage? so even if it not registered thru the consulate, it would still count :huh:

The US does not decide one religions marriage is legal and another's is not. Do you think they say Islamic marriage is not legal but Catholic marriage is? Jewish? Hindu? Of course, a legal marriage is a legal marriage by any religious denomination IF it is recognized in the country where it is performed, that is a question only the OP can answer. I am not sure by what is meant by "registered with the consulate". US consulates do not register marriages. That is done under the laws of the country (state, county, whatever) where the marriage is performed. It is simple, IF you are legally married, you cannot process a K-1 visa.

Correct me if my assumption is wrong. I believe the OP asks this question in the hopes of being able to continue with a K-1 visa (generally faster) and meet some religious demand of Islam for an Islamic marriage or whatever (not familiar with the customs, forgive me) If the marriage is not "legal" how would it meet the customs of Islam? A Catholic church would not consider a phoney ceremony to be a "Catholic marriage" to meet the traditions of that sacrament of the church and I doubt you would find a priest willing to do it just so you could run off and get married later by the JP.

I am just saying this may jeapordize the K-1 and/or not satisfy Islamic tradition.

In Morocco an American Citizen must get an eligibilty to marry from the US Embassy in order to get married even in a Islamic Ceremony. The courts in Morocco will not legally look at the OP as being legally married because she would not have this documentation from the Embassy and the Minsister of Foreign Affairs to get married. Moroccan nationals have to go to their local courts themselves to get permission to marry. This will just be a blessing of the relationship and by no uncertain terms will this be a legal marriage. I stated in my earlier writtings that the OP must not call this a Islamic Wedding Ceremony because even according to their customs this is not legal.

i only need the police record report to have all the needed papers, all the others we have, but we not married cause we was told it would take longer for the visa process if we are married

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i have a question. i'm a bit confused with this. if we get married at the home by imam, (just a islamic wedding) one that doesn't get filed at the consulate. would it wreck our k-1? i am under the impression that an islamic marriage is not a legal marriage in the usa. i've heard different things on this, so i was wondering if anyone had the facts on this.

The US recognizes any legal foreign marriage. If it is legal, it is recognized. If you get married before the K-1 is issued and your fiance comes to the US, you will have to swtich to an I-130 or CR-1 visa. This is covered by the age old quote..."You pays your nickle and you takes your choice" You cannot do it both ways. If you are trying to satisfy some requirement of islam, then a "phoney" wedding would not do. A legal wedding will void the K-1.

so the usa does see an islamic marriage as a legal marriage? so even if it not registered thru the consulate, it would still count :huh:

The US does not decide one religions marriage is legal and another's is not. Do you think they say Islamic marriage is not legal but Catholic marriage is? Jewish? Hindu? Of course, a legal marriage is a legal marriage by any religious denomination IF it is recognized in the country where it is performed, that is a question only the OP can answer. I am not sure by what is meant by "registered with the consulate". US consulates do not register marriages. That is done under the laws of the country (state, county, whatever) where the marriage is performed. It is simple, IF you are legally married, you cannot process a K-1 visa.

Correct me if my assumption is wrong. I believe the OP asks this question in the hopes of being able to continue with a K-1 visa (generally faster) and meet some religious demand of Islam for an Islamic marriage or whatever (not familiar with the customs, forgive me) If the marriage is not "legal" how would it meet the customs of Islam? A Catholic church would not consider a phoney ceremony to be a "Catholic marriage" to meet the traditions of that sacrament of the church and I doubt you would find a priest willing to do it just so you could run off and get married later by the JP.

I am just saying this may jeapordize the K-1 and/or not satisfy Islamic tradition.

In Morocco an American Citizen must get an eligibilty to marry from the US Embassy in order to get married even in a Islamic Ceremony. The courts in Morocco will not legally look at the OP as being legally married because she would not have this documentation from the Embassy and the Minsister of Foreign Affairs to get married. Moroccan nationals have to go to their local courts themselves to get permission to marry. This will just be a blessing of the relationship and by no uncertain terms will this be a legal marriage. I stated in my earlier writtings that the OP must not call this a Islamic Wedding Ceremony because even according to their customs this is not legal.

i only need the police record report to have all the needed papers, all the others we have, but we not married cause we was told it would take longer for the visa process if we are married

You will not need no police report or any investigation at all because you are not getting legally marriage. Are you an American Citizen? Forgive me because I have not read your entire profile, but if you are a US Citizen the police can't do an investigation on you to get married there unless you have these forms I mention earlier. If you want to go that route then I suggest that you need to do the CR1. K1 in the past went faster, but it seems as if the CR1 are moving allot faster then in the past. 27days and my NOA2 was approved on a CR1 application. If you already filed a K1 then no since in losing your money and time you already invested into this relationship. If you fantasize about having Islamic Ceremony and this is your way of making your fantasy to be somewhat real, except for the fact that you won't be legally married in Moroccan accourding to Islamic Law nor in American Law at all. Have the ceremoney, but just know that it's not legal and call it something other then a wedding. Because let me tell you a personnal story. A lady had a K1 visa and it was in AP status there at the consulate. So some months go by and she grew impatients, and she went over there and married her then fiance. Well her flight to come home to the states were on a Thursday. Well guess what Friday morning her now husband got a call from the Counsulate to tell him bring in his passport that day and that his fiance visa would be issued that Monday. This man went in to get his visa Monday morning and you can guess what happen next. So close but yet so far. They told him that they found out that they were legally married and- that they could not give him a fiance visa. The difference between your sitituation and the one that I just explained is that they did all the legal document and your not.

Questions are you doing this thinking this could stop him- from- going back to Morocco years later and getting a wife if you have a ceremony that is not legal there? The answer is that if it is not in their court registers and legal yes he could go back and take a second wife, of course with your permission. :blush:

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i have a question. i'm a bit confused with this. if we get married at the home by imam, (just a islamic wedding) one that doesn't get filed at the consulate. would it wreck our k-1? i am under the impression that an islamic marriage is not a legal marriage in the usa. i've heard different things on this, so i was wondering if anyone had the facts on this.

The US recognizes any legal foreign marriage. If it is legal, it is recognized. If you get married before the K-1 is issued and your fiance comes to the US, you will have to swtich to an I-130 or CR-1 visa. This is covered by the age old quote..."You pays your nickle and you takes your choice" You cannot do it both ways. If you are trying to satisfy some requirement of islam, then a "phoney" wedding would not do. A legal wedding will void the K-1.

so the usa does see an islamic marriage as a legal marriage? so even if it not registered thru the consulate, it would still count :huh:

The US does not decide one religions marriage is legal and another's is not. Do you think they say Islamic marriage is not legal but Catholic marriage is? Jewish? Hindu? Of course, a legal marriage is a legal marriage by any religious denomination IF it is recognized in the country where it is performed, that is a question only the OP can answer. I am not sure by what is meant by "registered with the consulate". US consulates do not register marriages. That is done under the laws of the country (state, county, whatever) where the marriage is performed. It is simple, IF you are legally married, you cannot process a K-1 visa.

Correct me if my assumption is wrong. I believe the OP asks this question in the hopes of being able to continue with a K-1 visa (generally faster) and meet some religious demand of Islam for an Islamic marriage or whatever (not familiar with the customs, forgive me) If the marriage is not "legal" how would it meet the customs of Islam? A Catholic church would not consider a phoney ceremony to be a "Catholic marriage" to meet the traditions of that sacrament of the church and I doubt you would find a priest willing to do it just so you could run off and get married later by the JP.

I am just saying this may jeapordize the K-1 and/or not satisfy Islamic tradition.

In Morocco an American Citizen must get an eligibilty to marry from the US Embassy in order to get married even in a Islamic Ceremony. The courts in Morocco will not legally look at the OP as being legally married because she would not have this documentation from the Embassy and the Minsister of Foreign Affairs to get married. Moroccan nationals have to go to their local courts themselves to get permission to marry. This will just be a blessing of the relationship and by no uncertain terms will this be a legal marriage. I stated in my earlier writtings that the OP must not call this a Islamic Wedding Ceremony because even according to their customs this is not legal.

i only need the police record report to have all the needed papers, all the others we have, but we not married cause we was told it would take longer for the visa process if we are married

You will not need no police report or any investigation at all because you are not getting legally marriage. Are you an American Citizen? Forgive me because I have not read your entire profile, but if you are a US Citizen the police can't do an investigation on you to get married there unless you have these forms I mention earlier. If you want to go that route then I suggest that you need to do the CR1. K1 in the past went faster, but it seems as if the CR1 are moving allot faster then in the past. 27days and my NOA2 was approved on a CR1 application. If you already filed a K1 then no since in losing your money and time you already invested into this relationship. If you fantasize about having Islamic Ceremony and this is your way of making your fantasy to be somewhat real, except for the fact that you won't be legally married in Moroccan accourding to Islamic Law nor in American Law at all. Have the ceremoney, but just know that it's not legal and call it something other then a wedding. Because let me tell you a personnal story. A lady had a K1 visa and it was in AP status there at the consulate. So some months go by and she grew impatients, and she went over there and married her then fiance. Well her flight to come home to the states were on a Thursday. Well guess what Friday morning her now husband got a call from the Counsulate to tell him bring in his passport that day and that his fiance visa would be issued that Monday. This man went in to get his visa Monday morning and you can guess what happen next. So close but yet so far. They told him that they found out that they were legally married and- that they could not give him a fiance visa. The difference between your sitituation and the one that I just explained is that they did all the legal document and your not.

Questions are you doing this thinking this could stop him- from- going back to Morocco years later and getting a wife if you have a ceremony that is not legal there? The answer is that if it is not in their court registers and legal yes he could go back and take a second wife, of course with your permission. :blush:

i meant i only needed the police record for us to get married lawfully there, we have all the other papers stamped and translated. yes i am usa citizen. as for him getting a 2nd wife i have not thought of that, plus in usa he only aloud 1 wife by law. what is cr-1, i don't know about that.

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Why don't you read up here

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...amp;page=guides

Instead of posting multiple topics with the same question over and over

PM me for any AP or AR relating to the NBI

USEM NBI Requirements:

http://manila.usembassy.gov/wwwh3217.html

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