hubby called USCIS

[woogietail 0]

Everyone's who's in K3 Limbo is wondering if it will be better to pursue the CR-1 if it's approved quicker. There are advantages, because the foreign spouse will be a legal permanent resident right away and eligible to work. Look, there would have been waiting no matter what, because entering on K3 means waiting for the greencard. So it's six of one, half a dozen of the other.

There's no sense being mad about what we can't control. We have to be like Buddhists and have no expectations, which are the source of disappointment and misery. We can look at the silver lining, which is this: I married a great guy who loves me, we're on the visa train, and there will be a point at which we're together again, and turkeys can stay frozen for months.

That's funny

[twood2k 0]

Only problem I see with trying to be positive is that we are really being passive.

The "SYSTEM" is very very broken and we sit on our hands hoping everything will be alright? Not knowing if or when our spouses will have permission to join their mates? This is 2006 and the VISA centers still lose documents... approved submissions are lost in the mail... and what is their answer? Oh just wait 30 days? HUH? Then what... wait another 30 and so on and so on?

What worries me most is that this is yet another sign of the American spirit that our founding fathers had is basically non existent. We just sit back and say oh well...

God bless America and save her too please.

[sannie 0]

That's absurd and also exactly what they told me too! I'm not miffed about the time. It does all even out really...K3 or CR1. What I am miffed about is the money that we have all collectively spent towards the false hope of a K3. I mean, how many more ways can our governement find to rip us all off? It's just disgusting. The zen approach soon fades after you haven't seen your husband in a few months. Besides, it's not really my style. I just hope they take the money they have pocketed and put it to some good use...like maybe more user friendly, professional looking websites. Now, that would be a treat!

i am totally with you on that...

the waiting time doesn't matter that much but all the money that we spent by pursueing both ways is just ridiculous [especially if you don't have a job and have to pay it all from your savings - if you have any!]

[Yodrak 7]

Your choice to pursue a K3 visa or not. The government has given you an option, they haven't coerced you into using it.

Yodrak

That's absurd and also exactly what they told me too! I'm not miffed about the time. It does all even out really...K3 or CR1. What I am miffed about is the money that we have all collectively spent towards the false hope of a K3. I mean, how many more ways can our governement find to rip us all off? It's just disgusting. The zen approach soon fades after you haven't seen your husband in a few months. Besides, it's not really my style. I just hope they take the money they have pocketed and put it to some good use...like maybe more user friendly, professional looking websites. Now, that would be a treat!

i am totally with you on that...

the waiting time doesn't matter that much but all the money that we spent by pursueing both ways is just ridiculous [especially if you don't have a job and have to pay it all from your savings - if you have any!]

[sannie 0]

Your choice to pursue a K3 visa or not. The government has given you an option, they haven't coerced you into using it.

Yodrak

That's absurd and also exactly what they told me too! I'm not miffed about the time. It does all even out really...K3 or CR1. What I am miffed about is the money that we have all collectively spent towards the false hope of a K3. I mean, how many more ways can our governement find to rip us all off? It's just disgusting. The zen approach soon fades after you haven't seen your husband in a few months. Besides, it's not really my style. I just hope they take the money they have pocketed and put it to some good use...like maybe more user friendly, professional looking websites. Now, that would be a treat!

i am totally with you on that...

the waiting time doesn't matter that much but all the money that we spent by pursueing both ways is just ridiculous [especially if you don't have a job and have to pay it all from your savings - if you have any!]

maybe I got this wrong then, but this side here even tells you to pursue both ways [in the guides] and I thought that's what you have to do...

Don't get me wrong, it is a nice option to pursue both, but you never know where you are at with any of the two...

[Yodrak 7]

sannie,

Then blame VJ if you're upset about the extra cost of following two parallel paths, or again yourself for not understanding both the pros and cons underlying a recommendation to follow both. Because the K3 is purely optional and it hasn't been as attractive as it once was for quite some time now. (And with IMBRA it may be even less attractive.)

Yodrak

Your choice to pursue a K3 visa or not. The government has given you an option, they haven't coerced you into using it.

Yodrak

maybe I got this wrong then, but this side here even tells you to pursue both ways [in the guides] and I thought that's what you have to do...

Don't get me wrong, it is a nice option to pursue both, but you never know where you are at with any of the two...

[babybunny 2]

we have been on 10 months, 4 days AR/AP, we had 2 interviews, 2 field investigations, expired medical < 1 year lapsed> , expired police reports. the K-3 ultimately got cancelled. why? because, the CR1 just arrived at the embassy. so now we are seemingly starting this mess all over again. from the start.

Edited June 29, 2006 by shonjaved

[Eva Malahova 0]

we have been on 10 months, 4 days AR/AP, we had 2 interviews, 2 field investigations, expired medical < 1 year lapsed> , expired police reports. the K-3 ultimately got cancelled. why? because, the CR1 just arrived at the embassy. so now we are seemingly starting this mess all over again. from the start.

Now This really sounds insane!

I am even afraid to ask what happened......

[MrsWhizz 0]

Your choice to pursue a K3 visa or not. The government has given you an option, they haven't coerced you into using it.

Yodrak

That's absurd and also exactly what they told me too! I'm not miffed about the time. It does all even out really...K3 or CR1. What I am miffed about is the money that we have all collectively spent towards the false hope of a K3. I mean, how many more ways can our governement find to rip us all off? It's just disgusting. The zen approach soon fades after you haven't seen your husband in a few months. Besides, it's not really my style. I just hope they take the money they have pocketed and put it to some good use...like maybe more user friendly, professional looking websites. Now, that would be a treat!

i am totally with you on that...

the waiting time doesn't matter that much but all the money that we spent by pursueing both ways is just ridiculous [especially if you don't have a job and have to pay it all from your savings - if you have any!]

With all due respect, if you pay for a "service" you should receive that service and you should receive it in a timely fashion! I never said that anyone was coerced into anything. I doubt than many people (speaking from experience) know much about the immigration process before they actually get into it. So when you hear that there is a "faster" route, it would only be human nature to try it. How many times have you heard someone say, "You're married. Can't he just come over here?" My husband and I did a LOT of research before we filed and even knowing all we knew, there are volumes that we didn't know. I don't think many people do much research. I think this site does a great job, but I refuse to keep my eyes closed about the ways of our beloved government. People come here for help and not to be belittled for actually having an opinion.

[babybunny 2]

we have been on 10 months, 4 days AR/AP, we had 2 interviews, 2 field investigations, expired medical < 1 year lapsed> , expired police reports. the K-3 ultimately got cancelled. why? because, the CR1 just arrived at the embassy. so now we are seemingly starting this mess all over again. from the start.

Now This really sounds insane!

I am even afraid to ask what happened......

simply the CR1 arrived that the embassy after all that mess..

Your choice to pursue a K3 visa or not. The government has given you an option, they haven't coerced you into using it.

Yodrak

That's absurd and also exactly what they told me too! I'm not miffed about the time. It does all even out really...K3 or CR1. What I am miffed about is the money that we have all collectively spent towards the false hope of a K3. I mean, how many more ways can our governement find to rip us all off? It's just disgusting. The zen approach soon fades after you haven't seen your husband in a few months. Besides, it's not really my style. I just hope they take the money they have pocketed and put it to some good use...like maybe more user friendly, professional looking websites. Now, that would be a treat!

i am totally with you on that...

the waiting time doesn't matter that much but all the money that we spent by pursueing both ways is just ridiculous [especially if you don't have a job and have to pay it all from your savings - if you have any!]

you know what.. I will say this. they are RIPPING US OFF!!!!

yes the goverment does give you the Option to use. it but, its all in whom you talk to.

those from muslim nations have the hardest time being able to use it!!! because of the security checks.

K-3 is to allow your spouse to wait for the I-130 approval!! then explain why we are apart

1 1/2 years! tell that to those been apart this long. there are compleate familys apart because of this. those familys are unable to make use of the K-3 option!!!

so right there the goverment already knows your gonna be on AP/AR and we all know it expires so fast.

while you sit on AP/AR. that little 165.00 + fee is all kick back money for the goverment! why not give me my 165 dollers back since it was THEM that cancelled the K-3.

Your choice to pursue a K3 visa or not. The government has given you an option, they haven't coerced you into using it.

Yodrak

That's absurd and also exactly what they told me too! I'm not miffed about the time. It does all even out really...K3 or CR1. What I am miffed about is the money that we have all collectively spent towards the false hope of a K3. I mean, how many more ways can our governement find to rip us all off? It's just disgusting. The zen approach soon fades after you haven't seen your husband in a few months. Besides, it's not really my style. I just hope they take the money they have pocketed and put it to some good use...like maybe more user friendly, professional looking websites. Now, that would be a treat!

i am totally with you on that...

the waiting time doesn't matter that much but all the money that we spent by pursueing both ways is just ridiculous [especially if you don't have a job and have to pay it all from your savings - if you have any!]

With all due respect, if you pay for a "service" you should receive that service and you should receive it in a timely fashion! I never said that anyone was coerced into anything. I doubt than many people (speaking from experience) know much about the immigration process before they actually get into it. So when you hear that there is a "faster" route, it would only be human nature to try it. How many times have you heard someone say, "You're married. Can't he just come over here?" My husband and I did a LOT of research before we filed and even knowing all we knew, there are volumes that we didn't know. I don't think many people do much research. I think this site does a great job, but I refuse to keep my eyes closed about the ways of our beloved government. People come here for help and not to be belittled for actually having an opinion.

I agree...

i was not approved or denied. so where my 165.00??????????????

where my refund. the service i paid for was to have my visa approved or deneid.

so again where my refund be at?

sannie,

Then blame VJ if you're upset about the extra cost of following two parallel paths, or again yourself for not understanding both the pros and cons underlying a recommendation to follow both. Because the K3 is purely optional and it hasn't been as attractive as it once was for quite some time now. (And with IMBRA it may be even less attractive.)

Yodrak

Your choice to pursue a K3 visa or not. The government has given you an option, they haven't coerced you into using it.

Yodrak

maybe I got this wrong then, but this side here even tells you to pursue both ways [in the guides] and I thought that's what you have to do...

Don't get me wrong, it is a nice option to pursue both, but you never know where you are at with any of the two...

in our case it was NOT VJ that said file K-3

its was USICS. I did not even know who VJ was!

they said file I-130 when we get receipt, submit I-129f .

[Yodrak 7]

MrsWhizz,

It seems to me that you did get what you paid for - you paid for an I-129f petition to be processed, and it was processed. [EDIT: I see that your petition has not yet completed processing. You can allow it to continue, or you can withdraw it, up to you. Either way you will not get a refund on the fee paid, and it can be debated whether that is 'fair' or not, but there are examples in the private sector where once one has signed up and paid one is committed so the government is not unique in this aspect.]

Whether an approved I-129f petition turns out to be useful or not is another story, but one makes the choice of whether or not to submit it on the chance that it will be approved well in advance of the I-130 petition. Then to complain about it when the USCIS gets the I-130 petition approved relatively quickly seems a bit ironic.

Just out of curiosity - do you complain to your life insurance company about the premium you paid last year and then you didn't die? Essentially that's what the K3 visa is - insurance against delayed processing of an I-130 petition. When the K3 was first introduced it was a sure bet. It isn't anymore.

If you did the research you say you did, and then decided to buy the insurance (or place the bet), then you've got nothing to complain about. (Neither do those who didn't do the research, for that matter.)

Yodrak

Your choice to pursue a K3 visa or not. The government has given you an option, they haven't coerced you into using it.

Yodrak

That's absurd and also exactly what they told me too! I'm not miffed about the time. It does all even out really...K3 or CR1. What I am miffed about is the money that we have all collectively spent towards the false hope of a K3. I mean, how many more ways can our governement find to rip us all off? It's just disgusting. The zen approach soon fades after you haven't seen your husband in a few months. Besides, it's not really my style. I just hope they take the money they have pocketed and put it to some good use...like maybe more user friendly, professional looking websites. Now, that would be a treat!

i am totally with you on that...

the waiting time doesn't matter that much but all the money that we spent by pursueing both ways is just ridiculous [especially if you don't have a job and have to pay it all from your savings - if you have any!]

With all due respect, if you pay for a "service" you should receive that service and you should receive it in a timely fashion! I never said that anyone was coerced into anything. I doubt than many people (speaking from experience) know much about the immigration process before they actually get into it. So when you hear that there is a "faster" route, it would only be human nature to try it. How many times have you heard someone say, "You're married. Can't he just come over here?" My husband and I did a LOT of research before we filed and even knowing all we knew, there are volumes that we didn't know. I don't think many people do much research. I think this site does a great job, but I refuse to keep my eyes closed about the ways of our beloved government. People come here for help and not to be belittled for actually having an opinion.

Edited June 29, 2006 by Yodrak

[babybunny 2]

MrsWhizz,

It seems to me that you did get what you paid for - you paid for an I-129f petition to be processed, and it was processed.

Whether an approved I-129f petition turns out to be useful or not is another story, but one makes the choice of whether or not to submit it on the chance that it will be approved well in advance of the I-130 petition. Then to complain about it when the USCIS gets the I-130 petition approved relatively quickly seems a bit ironic.

Just out of curiosity - do you complain to your life insurance company about the premium you paid last year and then you didn't die? Essentially that's what the K3 visa is - insurance against delayed processing of an I-130 petition. When the K3 was first introduced it was a sure bet. It isn't anymore.

If you did the research you say you did, and then decided to buy the insurance (or place the bet), then you've got nothing to complain about. (Neither do those who didn't do the research, for that matter.)

Yodrak

Your choice to pursue a K3 visa or not. The government has given you an option, they haven't coerced you into using it.

Yodrak

That's absurd and also exactly what they told me too! I'm not miffed about the time. It does all even out really...K3 or CR1. What I am miffed about is the money that we have all collectively spent towards the false hope of a K3. I mean, how many more ways can our governement find to rip us all off? It's just disgusting. The zen approach soon fades after you haven't seen your husband in a few months. Besides, it's not really my style. I just hope they take the money they have pocketed and put it to some good use...like maybe more user friendly, professional looking websites. Now, that would be a treat!

i am totally with you on that...

the waiting time doesn't matter that much but all the money that we spent by pursueing both ways is just ridiculous [especially if you don't have a job and have to pay it all from your savings - if you have any!]

With all due respect, if you pay for a "service" you should receive that service and you should receive it in a timely fashion! I never said that anyone was coerced into anything. I doubt than many people (speaking from experience) know much about the immigration process before they actually get into it. So when you hear that there is a "faster" route, it would only be human nature to try it. How many times have you heard someone say, "You're married. Can't he just come over here?" My husband and I did a LOT of research before we filed and even knowing all we knew, there are volumes that we didn't know. I don't think many people do much research. I think this site does a great job, but I refuse to keep my eyes closed about the ways of our beloved government. People come here for help and not to be belittled for actually having an opinion.

DEFINE PROCESS????????????????????????

because they look at it.. its considered processed? give me a break. I dont think anyone

goes into applying the I-129f only to have it processed - we go into this wanting adjudication.

[Yodrak 7]

shonjaved,

You paid the $165 for an I-129f petition to be processed, not for a visa application to be processed. And the petition was processed, and it was approved.

Your husband paid $100 for his visa application to be processed, and it seems he's getting a lot of processing for his money (although I'm sure you'd both prefer a quick approval).

Yodrak

I agree...

i was not approved or denied. so where my 165.00??????????????

where my refund. the service i paid for was to have my visa approved or deneid.

so again where my refund be at?

[Yodrak 7]

shonjaved,

I believe I've already answered your question? You've got an adjudicated, approved, I-129f petition. You may or may not have a legitimate complaint about the visa processing - for the purpose of this discussion I'll stipulate that your complaint is legitimate. But you've got no complaint with the USCIS over the I-129f petition - they did what you paid them to do, and you even got the decision that you wanted.

MrsWhizz does not have her I-129f petition processed yet, nor does she need it anymore. But the USCIS has put some time and money into it, and more important to her she does already have an approved I-130. She opted to buy the insurance, and as it turns out she won't need to collect on it. If only we all had 20-20 hindsight.

Yodrak

DEFINE PROCESS????????????????????????

because they look at it.. its considered processed? give me a break. I dont think anyone

goes into applying the I-129f only to have it processed - we go into this wanting adjudication.

Edited June 29, 2006 by Yodrak

[meauxna 15]

With all due respect, if you pay for a "service" you should receive that service and you should receive it in a timely fashion! I never said that anyone was coerced into anything. I doubt than many people (speaking from experience) know much about the immigration process before they actually get into it. So when you hear that there is a "faster" route, it would only be human nature to try it. How many times have you heard someone say, "You're married. Can't he just come over here?" My husband and I did a LOT of research before we filed and even knowing all we knew, there are volumes that we didn't know. I don't think many people do much research. I think this site does a great job, but I refuse to keep my eyes closed about the ways of our beloved government. People come here for help and not to be belittled for actually having an opinion.

Your idea of "timely" and the gov't's idea might be completely different. USCIS feels that they *are* speeding right along by adjudicating the majority of cases within 6 months. Not long ago, 3 year waits were not at all uncommon.

There is a Guatemalan fellow living in my city who has received some press lately. He came to the US 15 years ago and applied for asylum becasue of the threats on his life for organizing a union in Guate. Eventually his wife and children joined him here, waiting while his case was pending, and pending and pending. Do you know that he just now had a court date on the issue and the judge *denied* it because the political climate in Guate NOW does not warrent an asylum grant. The whole family has to return to Guatemala after living and working here for 15 years. Life isn't fair. Get used to it.

If people "hear" that the K-3 is faster, it's incumbant upon them to research it and find out how it's faster, or it's faster for *what* exactly. The K-3 was "faster" when I-130s took 3 years. If the i-130 takes the same amount of time, that is an *improvement*. There is no petition that you should rely on being processed in less than 6 months, IMO.

Now, where exactly were you belittled for having an opinion?