Porn and Pros

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Some women are into it, but I think has always been mainly men.

[Peikko 1,575]

The 70's porn is what I am thinking of. I have 'seen' hard core porn (once, accidentally) and it's just weird. It must be a 'guy' thing

Ah, the 70s Welcome back to the age of Jive

There are many loopholes to the prostitution thing also.The only prostitutes I see getting arrested are the crack addicted ones who walk up and down the street.The ones at the "happy ending" massage parlors,strip clubs and the ones who work out of their homes are left alone.

Very true. There is such a "massage parlor" in my small town of Athens, GA. Everyone knows you can get more than a massage there. The "spa" did get in trouble one time though...because they were flushing the condoms down the toilet and they blocked the pipes in the area. The CVS and grocery store in the same parking lot didn't have water for 2 days! The spa didn't really get in trouble though because condoms in the pipes doesn't prove anything! But if we know, the police know and clearly they don't care since the place has been in business as long as I can remember!

I would imagine that they get around it by sticking to the story that the place is a legitimate business selling massage and aromatherapy etc. and if the staff "choose" to do anything besides that, that this is their own discretion.

Of course - most businesses that caught an employee having sex on the premises would probably be handing them their pink slip.

If you want to get an idea of just how much sex-for-sale goes on each and every day in every city in America, all you have to do is take a gander at Craigslist Erotic listings for your local city or town. You'll find it updates about as frequently as this VJ post does!

There's people that don't like that sort of thing, and are trying to have it removed because of that murder that is loosely tied to Craigslist.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think its more about how visible Craiglist is - that anyone can see the adverts with a couple of mouse clicks. If you live in a state that considers prostitution to be a criminal offence publicly displaying "$ 4 sex" ads is probably a red rag to a bull.

I suspect much of that is politically motivated - that the authorities accept and expect a certain amount of prostitution going on, its just that they don't like how blatant it is via Craigslist.

A bit like smoking marijuana on the steps of City Hall.

Edited May 7, 2009 by Private Pike

[scandal 951]

I think its more about how visible Craiglist is - that anyone can see the adverts with a couple of mouse clicks. If you live in a state that considers prostitution to be a criminal offence publicly displaying "$ 4 sex" ads is probably a red rag to a bull.

I suspect much of that is politically motivated - that the authorities accept and expect a certain amount of prostitution going on, its just that they don't like how blatant it is via Craigslist.

A bit like smoking marijuana on the steps of City Hall.

Yup. Exactly. It's tolerated so long as it's not seen as a "public nuisance", meaning it's in the public eye and the politicians feel pressure to put more vice cops on the street to "deal with it".

CL has been high profile for years now on this issue. They came to an agreement about a year ago to start charging a fee for postings to Erotic listings, and to keep track of those who post there. It hasn't really done any good. Police across the country are still complaining about CL.

The thing is, if CL shut down, it would just show up elsewhere. In fact, it IS elsewhere. In the Bay area there's a site called 'frugal johns' (or used to be... this was back a few years ago last I knew of it, and I'm at work now and not gonna google for it from a work computer). There are other lesser known sites for every major city in the country, and piles of indexes and directories. It's a basic supply/demand thing. Johns want service. Providers give service. LE (Law Enforcement) hasn't got a hope to keep up.

Imagine if we stopped prosecuting vice and turned the resources over to more productive LE tasks.... isn't this where constellation and the rest chime in about repurposing them for immigration interdiction ?

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Well, there are big differences. Prostitution is essentially requires having sex with multiple partners, porn does not (although of course, a prostitute may have a very small or a very wide client base and a porn star may co star with more than one partner but you get the idea). It is also possible, even likely that the sex in porn is simulated (although, what the difference is somewhat baffles me ) while the sex for the prostitute might be, the intention for the client is going to be 'real' sex. So, while porn and prostitution are aspects of the sex industry, they are not interchangeable.

Presumably what you want is for there to be some uniformity in 'paid for sex' activity. Good luck with that

sister Cleo has been watching bad p0rn

[Peikko 1,575]

I think its more about how visible Craiglist is - that anyone can see the adverts with a couple of mouse clicks. If you live in a state that considers prostitution to be a criminal offence publicly displaying "$ 4 sex" ads is probably a red rag to a bull.

I suspect much of that is politically motivated - that the authorities accept and expect a certain amount of prostitution going on, its just that they don't like how blatant it is via Craigslist.

A bit like smoking marijuana on the steps of City Hall.

Yup. Exactly. It's tolerated so long as it's not seen as a "public nuisance", meaning it's in the public eye and the politicians feel pressure to put more vice cops on the street to "deal with it".

CL has been high profile for years now on this issue. They came to an agreement about a year ago to start charging a fee for postings to Erotic listings, and to keep track of those who post there. It hasn't really done any good. Police across the country are still complaining about CL.

The thing is, if CL shut down, it would just show up elsewhere. In fact, it IS elsewhere. In the Bay area there's a site called 'frugal johns' (or used to be... this was back a few years ago last I knew of it, and I'm at work now and not gonna google for it from a work computer). There are other lesser known sites for every major city in the country, and piles of indexes and directories. It's a basic supply/demand thing. Johns want service. Providers give service. LE (Law Enforcement) hasn't got a hope to keep up.

Imagine if we stopped prosecuting vice and turned the resources over to more productive LE tasks.... isn't this where constellation and the rest chime in about repurposing them for immigration interdiction ?

They reckon that if it came to court CL would win - there are politicians who want to make a stand on this issue despite that, presumably for political (read getting elected) reasons.

Well, there are big differences. Prostitution is essentially requires having sex with multiple partners, porn does not (although of course, a prostitute may have a very small or a very wide client base and a porn star may co star with more than one partner but you get the idea). It is also possible, even likely that the sex in porn is simulated (although, what the difference is somewhat baffles me ) while the sex for the prostitute might be, the intention for the client is going to be 'real' sex. So, while porn and prostitution are aspects of the sex industry, they are not interchangeable.

Presumably what you want is for there to be some uniformity in 'paid for sex' activity. Good luck with that

sister Cleo has been watching bad p0rn

Not even - not since the 70's when porn was hip

[jundp 191]

There are 3 things you should never pay for......... Parking, music, and sex

And air and water...

[fozzie 41]

Yup. Exactly. It's tolerated so long as it's not seen as a "public nuisance", meaning it's in the public eye and the politicians feel pressure to put more vice cops on the street to "deal with it".

Problem is that so many politicians get caught in scandals involving paying for sex. Just look at spitzer.

[Niels Bohr 72]

If the money is used as a utility for two people to trade, it is illegal. However, if the money is used as a utility between everybody outside the trade it is legal.

[panamania79 2]

Well, there are big differences. Prostitution is essentially requires having sex with multiple partners, porn does not (although of course, a prostitute may have a very small or a very wide client base and a porn star may co star with more than one partner but you get the idea). It is also possible, even likely that the sex in porn is simulated (although, what the difference is somewhat baffles me ) while the sex for the prostitute might be, the intention for the client is going to be 'real' sex. So, while porn and prostitution are aspects of the sex industry, they are not interchangeable.

Presumably what you want is for there to be some uniformity in 'paid for sex' activity. Good luck with that

sister Cleo has been watching bad p0rn

She's been watching the fake stuff they show on Cinemax !

[The_Dude 1,142]

There are 3 things you should never pay for......... Parking, music, and sex

And air and water...

I'd pay for water b4 any of those other 3

[Chica Yeyé 41]

There are 3 things you should never pay for......... Parking, music, and sex

And air and water...

I'd pay for water b4 any of those other 3

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Porn stars are paid actors....they're not being paid for sex.

Of course, it's not real sex. That is what I keep telling my wife, when she askes, "Why can't we do THAT!!! I wanna do THAT!!!!"

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Well, there are big differences. Prostitution is essentially requires having sex with multiple partners, porn does not (although of course, a prostitute may have a very small or a very wide client base and a porn star may co star with more than one partner but you get the idea). It is also possible, even likely that the sex in porn is simulated (although, what the difference is somewhat baffles me ) while the sex for the prostitute might be, the intention for the client is going to be 'real' sex. So, while porn and prostitution are aspects of the sex industry, they are not interchangeable.

Presumably what you want is for there to be some uniformity in 'paid for sex' activity. Good luck with that

I could be wrong about this - but I think that a lot of porn actors are also prostitutes on the side.

Moonlight Bunny Ranch in Carson City: Book your favorite porn star!

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Porn stars are paid actors....they're not being paid for sex.

Of course, it's not real sex. That is what I keep telling my wife, when she askes, "Why can't we do THAT!!! I wanna do THAT!!!!"

then you obviously need to switch movie types, to something like 2 chicks and a guy.