Gay marriage is now legal in Maine

[Mags 112]

I'd like to go to Maine too. Mags, let's go visit.

Sorry. Back to topic.

Oooh yes, let's!

Okay. Have we derailed the topic yet? No? How about some fluffy kitty pics?

Or, even better, some pic of fluffy kittens IN MAINE!!

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I'd like to go to Maine too. Mags, let's go visit.

Sorry. Back to topic.

Oooh yes, let's!

Okay. Have we derailed the topic yet? No? How about some fluffy kitty pics?

Or, even better, some pic of fluffy gay kittens IN MAINE!!

I fixed it for you.

Edited May 6, 2009 by spookyturtle

[Mags 112]

I'd like to go to Maine too. Mags, let's go visit.

Sorry. Back to topic.

Oooh yes, let's!

Okay. Have we derailed the topic yet? No? How about some fluffy kitty pics?

Or, even better, some pic of fluff gay kittens IN MAINE!!

I fixed it for you.

Silly boy! There are no gay animals - it's only humans who are aberrations! Have you not been paying attention?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I'd like to go to Maine too. Mags, let's go visit.

Sorry. Back to topic.

Oooh yes, let's!

Okay. Have we derailed the topic yet? No? How about some fluffy kitty pics?

Or, even better, some pic of fluff gay kittens IN MAINE!!

I fixed it for you.

Silly boy! There are no gay animals - it's only humans who are aberrations! Have you not been paying attention?

Are you sure? I've seen two male dogs go at it.

[almaty 19]

I'd like to go to Maine too. Mags, let's go visit.

Sorry. Back to topic.

Oooh yes, let's!

Okay. Have we derailed the topic yet? No? How about some fluffy kitty pics?

Or, even better, some pic of fluffy kittens IN MAINE!!

i lived in eastport for a year.. i get the hook up fopr you 2...

[pedroh 21]

I'd like to go to Maine too. Mags, let's go visit.

Sorry. Back to topic.

Oooh yes, let's!

Okay. Have we derailed the topic yet? No? How about some fluffy kitty pics?

Or, even better, some pic of fluffy kittens IN MAINE!!

u guys want gayness

I know it

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Maine.....did the right thing

Bets on which of the 50 states will be dead last in letting the gheys get married?

My bet is Mississippi.

Idaho. That is the last bastion of white straightness. Mark Fuhrman is a god up there.

Bill, what do you think is going to happen here in California with the state's constitutional amendment, banning gay marriage?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Maine.....did the right thing

Bets on which of the 50 states will be dead last in letting the gheys get married?

My bet is Mississippi.

Idaho. That is the last bastion of white straightness. Mark Fuhrman is a god up there.

Bill, what do you think is going to happen here in California with the state's constitutional amendment, banning gay marriage?

I think it will get get tossed around for a few months in the courts. Isn't there supposed to be a California Supreme Court hearing this month? It will be interesting if it goes to the 9th Circuit, and whether or not, SCOTUS wants to review that decision. Meanwhile, I expect to see another ballot measure in November.

The prospects of same-sex marriage in California grew dimmer Thursday, when two Supreme Court justices who helped create the right for gays to marry in last year's historic decision expressed deep reservations about attempts to strike down a statewide referendum passed last fall to ban the practice. "You would have us choose between these two rights: the inalienable right to marry and the right of the people to change their constitution," said Justice Joyce L. Kennard, one of those two key judges. "You ask us to willy-nilly disregard the right of the people to change the constitution of the state of California. But all political power is inherent in the people of California."

That was from Time in March.

Edited May 6, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Maine.....did the right thing

Bets on which of the 50 states will be dead last in letting the gheys get married?

My bet is Mississippi.

Idaho. That is the last bastion of white straightness. Mark Fuhrman is a god up there.

Bill, what do you think is going to happen here in California with the state's constitutional amendment, banning gay marriage?

I think it will get get tossed around for a few months in the courts. Isn't there supposed to be a California Supreme Court hearing this month? It will be interesting if it goes to the 9th Circuit, and whether or not, SCOTUS wants to review that decision. Meanwhile, I expect to see another ballot measure in November.

It will be interesting for sure.

[EstebanTrabajos 7]

Oh noeeees!

ZE gheys are going to take over!! run for cover! I iz afraid!

when I saw Sean Penn winning the oscar i sensed mayhem on the horizon

Edited May 6, 2009 by TävôLuDô

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

California Gay Marriage Backers Poised to Try Again in 2010

May 5, 2009

Same-sex marriage backers in California, anticipating a loss in court, are preparing to make their case at the ballot box in 2010 rather than waiting until 2012.

"The right time is now," San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom told ABC News. "And if that means going back in 2010, I couldn't be more supportive."

"Wait almost always means never," he added, invoking Martin Luther King Jr.

California voters approved Proposition 8 in November, a change to the state constitution banning same-sex marriage. Although a decision has not yet been rendered in the legal challenge to Proposition 8, many gay marriage proponents in California expect the state Supreme Court to uphold the voter-approved ban on new gay marriages while leaving intact the gay marriages performed in 2008 when a decision of the state's High Court had temporarily legalized the practice.

The inclination on the part of Newsom, who is running for governor next year, to push for gay marriage in 2010 is in step with the thinking of Rick Jacobs, the chairman of the Courage Campaign, a liberal grassroots organization that is at the center of deciding when gay marriage advocates will launch their next campaign.

"Do we wait? My gut tells me no," Jacobs told ABC News.

The decision on when to push for gay marriage at the ballot box could be a critical one, according to California political strategists, because Democratic voter turnout in the state is typically heavier during presidential election years than it is during mid-term elections.

While traditional turnout models might recommend waiting until 2012, recent gay marriage victories in Iowa, Vermont, and the District of Columbia have emboldened gay rights activists in California.

Advocates of same-sex marriage are also encouraged to try in 2010 rather than in 2012 because all three Democrats eyeing the governor's office -- Newsom, Attorney General Jerry Brown and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa -- are active supporters of gay marriage, in contrast with President Obama, the Democrat who will likely top the party ticket in 2012.

To aid its decision on timing, the Courage Campaign is conducting a statewide poll to see if attitudes have changed since November, when voters narrowly decided to eliminate the state's court-recognized right to same-sex marriage.

It is also planning to hold town hall meetings around the state. Its partners in this effort include the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, Marriage Equality USA, the Human Rights Campaign, and the California Federation of Labor.

Gay Marriage Backer: 'We Have to Remove Fear'

"We've got to have this all done by the end of June," Jacobs said.

Although a final decision on timing will not be made until next month, gay marriage backers are adamant that the next campaign be different from last year's "No on Prop. 8" campaign.

"People are not going to let the people who ran the last campaign run this campaign," Jacobs said.

To address voter concerns about the impact that state-sanctioned gay marriage could have on religious institutions, the Courage Campaign is considering possible ballot language that would guarantee the right of any two unrelated consenting adults to marry, while simultaneously stating that churches have a right to decide for themselves whom to marry.

"In order to win, we have to remove fear because that's all the other side has left," Jacobs said.

To make its campaign more personal and accessible, the Courage Campaign has convened workshops around the state to teach activists to "tell their story" about why same-sex marriage is important to them.

Modeled after the "Camp Obama" workshops the president used during his campaign, the goal of "Camp Courage" is to penetrate territory usually ignored by pro-gay marriage forces.

"After two days, we hope everyone is a community organizer," Jacobs said.

In addition to wanting to improve outreach to African-Americans, Jacobs is convinced that the "No on Prop. 8" campaign erred by not showing gays or lesbians in any of its ads.

"There were no pictures of gay people. The ads were all about fairness," Jacobs said. "This time, we're going to make it clear you're talking about real people."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7502090&page=1

[one...two...tree 2,762]

The prospects of same-sex marriage in California grew dimmer Thursday, when two Supreme Court justices who helped create the right for gays to marry in last year's historic decision expressed deep reservations about attempts to strike down a statewide referendum passed last fall to ban the practice. "You would have us choose between these two rights: the inalienable right to marry and the right of the people to change their constitution," said Justice Joyce L. Kennard, one of those two key judges. "You ask us to willy-nilly disregard the right of the people to change the constitution of the state of California. But all political power is inherent in the people of California."

That was from Time in March.

I'm sure what those judges are thinking, but imagine if a ballot intiative passed that amended the state constitution allowing for slavery? In other words, we couldn't just amend anything to the state's Constitution - it must not contradict or take away other rights protected.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

The prospects of same-sex marriage in California grew dimmer Thursday, when two Supreme Court justices who helped create the right for gays to marry in last year's historic decision expressed deep reservations about attempts to strike down a statewide referendum passed last fall to ban the practice. "You would have us choose between these two rights: the inalienable right to marry and the right of the people to change their constitution," said Justice Joyce L. Kennard, one of those two key judges. "You ask us to willy-nilly disregard the right of the people to change the constitution of the state of California. But all political power is inherent in the people of California."

That was from Time in March.

I'm sure what those judges are thinking, but imagine if a ballot intiative passed that amended the state constitution allowing for slavery? In other words, we couldn't just amend anything to the state's Constitution - it must not contradict or take away other rights protected.

For consistency, the state court has to rule within the four walls of the state constitution. Any Federal issues would be rightly addressed under the U.S. Constitution, in Federal court. In order for the court to be legitimate, it has to at least make an appearance of following that course.

Medical marijuana is an example of such an issue. Legal in the state, still illegal in the U.S.

Edited May 6, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[helwardman 1]

Maine.....did the right thing

Bets on which of the 50 states will be dead last in letting the gheys get married?

My bet is Mississippi.

Louisiana

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I'd like to go to Maine too. Mags, let's go visit.

Sorry. Back to topic.

Oooh yes, let's!

Okay. Have we derailed the topic yet? No? How about some fluffy kitty pics?

Or, even better, some pic of fluffy gay kittens IN MAINE!!

I fixed it for you.

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