Banned for Life

[Old Dominion 26]

Weird.

Maybe some of the Canadian experts would know if there is "information sharing" between Canada and the US.

Misrepresentation at the border can get you a bar for life.

But there's not going to be a court proceeding in New York for a crime committed in Canada. I suppose there could be a BIA hearing in New York for misrepresenting himself.........

Yes, there is information sharing between the US and many nations, including Canada. Have had personal experience with that.

[rebeccajo 14]

Hey guys!

As an organizer, I'm not even sure if this is in the right forum, so please, move if need be.

I have a mystery to solve.

I recently found out that my brother's boyfriend (let's call him Rick) has a lifetime ban from the United States.

I found this out when in September of 08, my parents, my brother and Rick were suppose to visit Nick and I. My parents and brother came, but Rick came up with some excuse as to why he couldn't come....Anyway, long story short, we found out he is banned from entering the U.S.....and here is his excuse.

HE SAYS...that when he was a minor, he committed a crime (He won't say what this crime was) in CANADA...northern Ontario to be specific. Years later as an adult, he said he was crossing the border into the States for a trip and was asked if he had a record by the customs....he said "no" thinking that because he was a minor when he committed the crime that they wouldn't have that information on their computers....well, he says they did and that the officer at the border then informed him that the United States was then charging him for lying to them and he had to go to court in Buffalo, NY for the lying....and then they banned him from the United States for life.

This story is really confusing my family and so I'm turning to you guys to shed some light.

1. Would American customs have access to files from Canada reguarding crime committed 15 to 20 years prior?

2. Wouldn't they just turn him around and not let him enter instead of charging him?

I'm thinking there is more to the story but I could be wrong....

Thanks guys!!!

I lived and worked in Montreal for a time and have a business aquaintance there, now in his late 40s, that also has a lifetime ban to the the USA for exactly the same thing. Some sort of crime he committed as a teenager when he got involved with some gangs. He had traveled back and forth to the US for some years with no problem. Then the same happened to him, they asked if he had a criminal record, he said "no" and ended up in a world of trouble. Whatever he did then, he is a good guy now and a friend, but he can never come here to visit me, I always have to go to his place.

Also a friend here is not allowed into Canada because of a drunk driving charge he had several years ago, but I think he could get a waiver of some sort if he tried, so apparently there is some sort of interagency communication regarding crimes.

Once again this poster comes thru with another great answer

I think you two should get a room.

[~Laura and Nick~ 5]

I am rather chocked by your "he is too old"

you apparently don t like him

and may have ground

but the age comment is not welcome

my brother is with an "older" guy and we are happy for him.

I am myself significantly older than my husband

other people on this forum have age differences

you may have shocked them too.

From what I understand, this is an open forum, I can state my opinion all I want.

I didn't say anything vulgar, I simply stated my opinion, it's as simple as that.

It's my brother and I can make all the comments I want about him, it has nothing to do with you or anyone else's relationship, thank you very much.

My brother's boyfriend is too old for him.

He is 21, his boyfriend is 40. They are at two COMPLETELY different stages in their lives and the age difference is already coming between them, but I won't get into that right now.

Your relationship may be fine and dandy and that's great for you but not EVERYONE views things the same.

As for offending anyone, if that's the case, grow some thicker skin.

Stinkers, I would concur with sister Rebecca Jo. Rick and your bro are, indeed, adults. And from what I know about your bro, he is smart and committed to Rick.

I personally applaud your brother for not telling you anything --- he is doing what I would do if asked about something Bren regards as private.

Love you and #######

Love you too Len

From what I know now, my brother doesn't even know the whole truth.

There is a lot more to this story and their relationship but I won't get into that.

Let's just say it's causing my family a lot of stress and heartache.

Miss you!

Edited May 6, 2009 by ~Laura and Nick~

[rlogan 2,036]

I am not bothered by the "too old" comment.

I'm 30 years older than my wife.

And although she is a little older than I like them, you have to be practical about marriage. So being the prudent man I am, I chose one a little older.

Some might object and say she is too old. go younger. But I am sticking by my decision.

So maybe your brother is doing the same thing. Being practical rather than being led by base physical attractiveness.

Something to think about.

[Frenchwife 1]

ok I understand you don t understand your brother and don t like his boyfriend.

gave you a chance, age difference is not an handicap. take it or not.

[rebeccajo 14]

I am not bothered by the "too old" comment.

I'm 30 years older than my wife.

And although she is a little older than I like them, you have to be practical about marriage. So being the prudent man I am, I chose one a little older.

Some might object and say she is too old. go younger. But I am sticking by my decision.

So maybe your brother is doing the same thing. Being practical rather than being led by base physical attractiveness.

Something to think about.

That's just weird on so many levels.

[Welshcookie 17]

ok I understand you don t understand your brother and don t like his boyfriend.

gave you a chance, age difference is not an handicap. take it or not.

Actually, sometimes it just is and sometimes it isn't....very much depends on the relationship...take it or not.

And yes, I speak from experience.

[Mrs.J06 4]

ok I understand you don t understand your brother and don t like his boyfriend.

gave you a chance, age difference is not an handicap. take it or not.

Actually, sometimes it just is and sometimes it isn't....very much depends on the relationship...take it or not.

And yes, I speak from experience.

Agreed! Especially if one partner is 21 and the other is 40. Wouldn't be so much of a difference if one was 31 and the boyfriend was 50, but so much happens and changes between 21 and 31!

I also speak from experience .

As hard as it might be, I would stay out of this. Doing background checks and stuff seems to go too far, IMHO.

[~Laura and Nick~ 5]

lol don't worry guys...

I am not nor will I ever do a background check.

It crossed my mind for a split second but then it was gone again.

Thanks for all the advice.