Passport Stamps - ugh

[Osiris 0]

Ok one last paranoid question before I file — swear.

To establish my citizenship, I include a copy (front and back) of my U.S. birth certificate.

Then for proving I've visited my fiancee as many times as I've claimed, I've printed out old flight itineraries and have scanned pages of my passport to show that I entered the country.

I only scanned the cover page of my passport (face and info) and then pages with relevant visa and stamps — not all my passport pages.

Is this bad? Should I include everything just for the hell of it and kill some more trees and burn some more ink?

[Hell0W0rld 10]

Ok one last paranoid question before I file — swear.

To establish my citizenship, I include a copy (front and back) of my U.S. birth certificate.

Then for proving I've visited my fiancee as many times as I've claimed, I've printed out old flight itineraries and have scanned pages of my passport to show that I entered the country.

I only scanned the cover page of my passport (face and info) and then pages with relevant visa and stamps — not all my passport pages.

Is this bad? Should I include everything just for the hell of it and kill some more trees and burn some more ink?

thats fine, you only need to print all pages + front and back cover of passport if you are using it to establish citizenship, but since you are using your birthcertificate, it's not a problem..

[Osiris 0]

Ok one last paranoid question before I file — swear.

To establish my citizenship, I include a copy (front and back) of my U.S. birth certificate.

Then for proving I've visited my fiancee as many times as I've claimed, I've printed out old flight itineraries and have scanned pages of my passport to show that I entered the country.

I only scanned the cover page of my passport (face and info) and then pages with relevant visa and stamps — not all my passport pages.

Is this bad? Should I include everything just for the hell of it and kill some more trees and burn some more ink?

thats fine, you only need to print all pages + front and back cover of passport if you are using it to establish citizenship, but since you are using your birthcertificate, it's not a problem..

Thanks!

[Hell0W0rld 10]

Ok one last paranoid question before I file — swear.

To establish my citizenship, I include a copy (front and back) of my U.S. birth certificate.

Then for proving I've visited my fiancee as many times as I've claimed, I've printed out old flight itineraries and have scanned pages of my passport to show that I entered the country.

I only scanned the cover page of my passport (face and info) and then pages with relevant visa and stamps — not all my passport pages.

Is this bad? Should I include everything just for the hell of it and kill some more trees and burn some more ink?

thats fine, you only need to print all pages + front and back cover of passport if you are using it to establish citizenship, but since you are using your birthcertificate, it's not a problem..

Thanks!

no problem.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Ok one last paranoid question before I file — swear.

To establish my citizenship, I include a copy (front and back) of my U.S. birth certificate.

Then for proving I've visited my fiancee as many times as I've claimed, I've printed out old flight itineraries and have scanned pages of my passport to show that I entered the country.

I only scanned the cover page of my passport (face and info) and then pages with relevant visa and stamps — not all my passport pages.

Is this bad? Should I include everything just for the hell of it and kill some more trees and burn some more ink?

Airline intineraries are not accepted as proof of travel, passport stamps are, so you should be OK. Copies of boarding passes are accepted also. But the USCIS really doesn't care HOW you got there, so the passport stamps and some photos (for proof of meeting) are fine. If it were me, I would kill the trees to copy ALL pages of the passport and forget the itineraries.

[SCFsnoopy 0]

Airline intineraries are not accepted as proof of travel, passport stamps are, so you should be OK. Copies of boarding passes are accepted also. But the USCIS really doesn't care HOW you got there, so the passport stamps and some photos (for proof of meeting) are fine. If it were me, I would kill the trees to copy ALL pages of the passport and forget the itineraries.

I've done something similar, where I've only photocopied the pages of my passport that show my entry stamps to the US (I am the beneficiery). I'm asking him to do the same because he has stamps showing he came to Australia to see me. I made a cover sheet for our proof of meeting that states, "copies of passport pages showing US visa and entry stamps, relevant pages only." Think this will be ok? If not I can email him the scans of the rest of my passport.

[baron555 934]

Airline intineraries are not accepted as proof of travel, passport stamps are, so you should be OK. Copies of boarding passes are accepted also. But the USCIS really doesn't care HOW you got there, so the passport stamps and some photos (for proof of meeting) are fine. If it were me, I would kill the trees to copy ALL pages of the passport and forget the itineraries.

I've done something similar, where I've only photocopied the pages of my passport that show my entry stamps to the US (I am the beneficiery). I'm asking him to do the same because he has stamps showing he came to Australia to see me. I made a cover sheet for our proof of meeting that states, "copies of passport pages showing US visa and entry stamps, relevant pages only." Think this will be ok? If not I can email him the scans of the rest of my passport.

Personally I scanned in my entire passport. If you only send a copy of the page with the pertinent country stamp, how do you establish that is from your passport and not someone elses? (Oh, and scan in the front and back covers also.)

Besides pictures of you two in your meeting location, do you have anything else to show you were there? Hotel receipt? Restaurant bill? As stated flight intineraries are not accepted because I could type one up by myself. Also do you have anything that officially show your SO at the meeting place? If you went to visit them in their country, then they may not have anything and that would be OK.

Edited May 5, 2009 by baron555

[Hugglebuggles 60]

Interesting that you say flight itineraries are not excepted, I'm not sure what that is based on. For our petition we submitted flight itineraries and some photos of us together, nothing more. We were approved rather quickly with no RFE. I know of several others who submitted itineraries with their petitions and received approvals. Perhaps Canadians are the exception to the rule, but I seriously doubt it.

I'd photocopy the entire passport just to be safe.

Edited May 6, 2009 by Hugglebuggles

[Mrs. Disney 0]

If you included copies of birth certificate (front and back) then you don't need to provide copies of all pages of your passport. We did, just to be safe, but it's not necessary. You're good, good luck!

[Osiris 0]

If you included copies of birth certificate (front and back) then you don't need to provide copies of all pages of your passport. We did, just to be safe, but it's not necessary. You're good, good luck!

Thanks guys. Appreciate the feedback.

My petition, 60+ odd pages is in the mail. The only thing I forgot to do is label the mailing envelope as to its contents and nature of the submission.

Cover page is a modified version of the template provided on this site, so that's properly labeled. Always a mistake that escapes your eye, bleh.

Heh, postal worker commented on where I was sending it (California Service Center), recommending I get a return receipt because "Those guys tend to lose things a lot."

Edited May 6, 2009 by Osiris

[MelissaJulian 30]

Interesting that you say flight itineraries are not excepted, I'm not sure what that is based on. For our petition we submitted flight itineraries and some photos of us together, nothing more. We were approved rather quickly with no RFE. I know of several others who submitted itineraries with their petitions and received approvals. Perhaps Canadians are the exception to the rule, but I seriously doubt it.

I'd photocopy the entire passport just to be safe.

Hmmmm, we sent itineraries too, along with passport stamps. I just checked the I-129F instructions and the form itself and it doesn't say anything about itineraries not being accepted as proof. I mean, I have passport stamps as well as part of my evidence, but I can't see anywhere on the USCIS instructions that says "don't use these!!!" I mean, Julian and I have stamps showing we have been in each other's country, but we could easily have been visiting other people instead of each other. Passport stamps are supposed to be primary evidence, as are boarding cards, but itineraries seem to be pretty close to primary. And nowhere on the USCIS website does it say "this is primary" and "this is secondary" -- are these just categories that VJ people have settled on?

[Hugglebuggles 60]

Interesting that you say flight itineraries are not excepted, I'm not sure what that is based on. For our petition we submitted flight itineraries and some photos of us together, nothing more. We were approved rather quickly with no RFE. I know of several others who submitted itineraries with their petitions and received approvals. Perhaps Canadians are the exception to the rule, but I seriously doubt it.

I'd photocopy the entire passport just to be safe.

Hmmmm, we sent itineraries too, along with passport stamps. I just checked the I-129F instructions and the form itself and it doesn't say anything about itineraries not being accepted as proof. I mean, I have passport stamps as well as part of my evidence, but I can't see anywhere on the USCIS instructions that says "don't use these!!!" I mean, Julian and I have stamps showing we have been in each other's country, but we could easily have been visiting other people instead of each other. Passport stamps are supposed to be primary evidence, as are boarding cards, but itineraries seem to be pretty close to primary. And nowhere on the USCIS website does it say "this is primary" and "this is secondary" -- are these just categories that VJ people have settled on?

Yes exactly. I don't think there is much truth to that statement... I used them without passport stamps and without boarding passes and our petition was successful. I drive across the border and use the Buffalo airport, so I don't have a single passport stamp. I never went out of my way to explain this in the petition either... It was what it was. Also, who saves all their boarding passes thinking that one day they might have to file an immigrant visa petition and submit them as proof of meeting their significant others? Not many. In the 4 years I traveled to visit my fiance before filing the I-129F, including 30+ trips on an airplane that thought never once entered my mind. Its difficult to fake travel itineraries that are printed directly from the airlines website with a giant "NWA" logo in the corner and a URL in the opposite corner with the date and time.

People can speculate as to what constitutes primary evidence all they want, but if travel itineraries are not excepted as evidence I wouldn't have been approved!

Edited May 7, 2009 by Hugglebuggles