Filing for K1 with a AGE GAP and evidence of meeting

[MouadsWife 161]

Ok... Im filing for a K1, and I have already gone to see my fiance this past February and spend 3 weeks there and and took a whopping 960 photos, and 550 are of us, some seperate and some together. Getting to my question and concern... I was told that I should go see him twice in order to make it more convincing. In my thoughts if you cant tell by our pictures with our happiness beaming that we are actually 'really' happy... then they are blind. I cant afford to make another trip there. The reason I was told to make another trip is bc I am 40 and hes 23. So we need to put al little more effort into convincing the CO. If is not everday a hum being can just fork out the fund to hop on a plane. I cant. I am wondering what experiences other have had, that have been approved for visa. 1. Age gap? 2. How many times did you meet before approval? 3. Did they even ask how many times we met? Thoughts anythone? Missy

[Bobby+Umit 161]

Unless there is some sort of "custom" against an age-difference marriage in that part of the world, that would not affect your petition, only at the interview would that be an issue.

One trip may raise eyeballs, but the instructions state "met in the last 2 years prior to sending in the petition".

It is all up to the CO. Looking at some of the posts relating to Morocco, you may be in for a bit of time. Do a search here with your country, and see what you can find.

MoadsWife? your not married yet, are you?

[Hell0W0rld 10]

if possible make more trips....

[Rosie and David 1]

Age Gap ? what age gap ?? thats the answer to that my wife and I have 36 years, it's not a problem.

The answer to being with (how many times) 3 times in 6 months for me and I was at her interview.

It is nice to be supportive and be there for their interview even if you are not asked any questions ..

both your spouse to be as well as the Embassy knows your there.

Don't be so worried just keep staking up the Documentation and in our case they didn't even ask us

for more then we gave them for the APPLICATION k-1 visa. They asked us to choose 5 pictures and

stapled them to our interview documents.

10 days later Roise recieved her Visa Passport and I got her a ticket home.

PLEASE PLEASE when you get approved dont be NOSIE and open the FINAL PACKET they send.

It says do not OPEN right on the BROWN Envelope. You will and can be denied Entery if it is touched (OPENED).

GOOD LUCK

the wait is worth it

David and Roise

[venusfire503 54]

Unless there is some sort of "custom" against an age-difference marriage in that part of the world, that would not affect your petition, only at the interview would that be an issue.

One trip may raise eyeballs, but the instructions state "met in the last 2 years prior to sending in the petition".

It is all up to the CO. Looking at some of the posts relating to Morocco, you may be in for a bit of time. Do a search here with your country, and see what you can find.

MoadsWife? your not married yet, are you?

MouadsWife,

An age gap (with the woman older) is not that unusual in MENA couples (I'm 11 years older than my husband). You might want to check out the MENA forum if you haven't already. I would suggest reading through anyway - there's alot you might want to know about. First, you might run into some things you weren't expecting (I did). One thing that surprised me was the way people (even family) reacted, and things they said. Be prepared. Also, if you don't know yet, you'll hear about fraud. You'll want to be cautious, and also prepared for what you might hear from others. Not trying to scare you. I just wish I had been more prepared. It's a difficult journey, but worth it for most people.

Bobby_Umit, it seems to be a tradition in Morocco for engaged couples to refer to each other as husband and wife (we did), so they might not be actually married.

MouadsWife, if you are married, you'll have to do a spousal visa, not K-1. If you aren't married, do the K-1 BUT BE CAREFUL. NEVER REFER TO EACH OTHER AS HUSBAND AND WIFE IN PAPERWORK OR AT THE INTERVIEW UNTIL YOU ARE ACTUALLY MARRIED. I have heard of people who have meesed their process up. When my husband went to his visa interview, he saw a guy get a 221g because he called his fiancee his wife. Best of luck in the process. Hope to see you in the MENA forum!

venusfire

[MouadsWife 161]

No we are not married, but wear rings. I have told my fiance not to wear his ring at the interview, and we have omitted anything from out evidence showing our rings, or calling each other husband and wife.

As far as the interview goes, in Casablanca you are not allowed in the embassy. One the person being interview, the person with the sole purpose of being there, is allowed in.

I would like to go again, but being a single mother, unemployed (yes I have a sponsor), traveling again in not a wise idea on a budget as tight as mine at the time being.

Now... WHY CANT I BE NOSIE... Already you have me curious. Who gets the brown package? Is it for him? Do I mail it to him? Whats in the package????? lol Missy

[MouadsWife 161]

I forgot to ask... What is the MENA forum? Where is it?? Missy

[pushbrk 13,178]

No we are not married, but wear rings. I have told my fiance not to wear his ring at the interview, and we have omitted anything from out evidence showing our rings, or calling each other husband and wife.

As far as the interview goes, in Casablanca you are not allowed in the embassy. One the person being interview, the person with the sole purpose of being there, is allowed in.

I would like to go again, but being a single mother, unemployed (yes I have a sponsor), traveling again in not a wise idea on a budget as tight as mine at the time being.

Now... WHY CANT I BE NOSIE... Already you have me curious. Who gets the brown package? Is it for him? Do I mail it to him? Whats in the package????? lol Missy

We get a lot of discussion here about age differences and about half of them are older women marrying younger men from Morocco. Don't bury your head in the sand. It's a problem and it must be overcome with evidence of a bona fide ongoing relationship. The best evidence is time spent together. Read some of the experiences of others and some of the previous discussions. I think you'll find it enlightening.

[MouadsWife 161]

How many pictures is it adviseable to send? I had printed 70 to send. I also was going to send a cd with 560 pictures on it of us too. We have hundred of daily emails, and I have spend almost $1,000 on phone cards to call him. Missy

[venusfire503 54]

I forgot to ask... What is the MENA forum? Where is it?? Missy

On the main forum page, scroll down to General Discussion Area, look for the Regional Discussion part, and click on Middle East and North Africa (called MENA for short). You will find plenty of information there from others in relationships with Moroccans and other "MENA" people.

Oh, and for the packet you can't look in - it goes to immigration officers in the airport when he gets here (inchalla). If you open it, they will send him back instead of admitting him to the country. It's nothing you'd find interesting anyway - just paperwork that allows him to come here.

70 pictures sounds good. The most important thing to show is that you have an ongoing, serious relationship. Send the receipts for the phone cards, a print out of the calls if available, email samples over time, and whatever else you have. You can send the receipts for the rings, as well (just don't mention that you already wear them).

Best of luck!

venusfire

[MouadsWife 161]

I finally found the MENA forum.. thats! :-D I thought you mean the envelope that I get after I mail the petition. The NOA or something like that. I understand it that when I get the NOA I am to mail to him the complete packet that I mailed to USCIS and he is to take that to his interview in Casablanca. So, when his visa is approved and he has it in hand, I will then get the 'conspicuous brown envelope' in the mail? And I take it to airport when he arrives?

As far as another trip I believe that is financially impossible. But I do have lots of emails as poof, and we have about 560 pics, and if I do say so myself we make a quite lovely couple...lol I think a blind person would not see that when the CO looks at the pics. Inshallah I can print out the phone cards that I bought, but I dont think I can get a list of the numbers I called with it. I will have to see.

Missy

[venusfire503 54]

No we are not married, but wear rings. I have told my fiance not to wear his ring at the interview, and we have omitted anything from out evidence showing our rings, or calling each other husband and wife.

As far as the interview goes, in Casablanca you are not allowed in the embassy. One the person being interview, the person with the sole purpose of being there, is allowed in.

I would like to go again, but being a single mother, unemployed (yes I have a sponsor), traveling again in not a wise idea on a budget as tight as mine at the time being.

Now... WHY CANT I BE NOSIE... Already you have me curious. Who gets the brown package? Is it for him? Do I mail it to him? Whats in the package????? lol Missy

You're right - you would not be allowed inside during the interview. I stood alone outside for hours. I'm glad I went, but I know many others don't go, and their SOs still get the visas.

I would recommend saving money for several reasons. First, if the process takes a long time (sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't), you might want to visit again. Second, if you end up not visiting him before he gets here, it's always a good idea to have some extra money for things then (the marriage license, AOS, etc).

I noticed that you are unemployed. I would strongly advise you to research health insurance for him. My husband was very healthy all his life, but got very sick on the trip here, and ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. I guess with his system suddenly being attacked with new germs, plus the stress of such a big change in his life - a little much for him. I had insurance for him, so we ended up paying $400 instead of something like $10,000. We found a policy through Aetna that was about $140 or something a month (it's based on his age, so it might cost you even less). I know it's difficult to come up with even that amount, but see if you can swing it somehow. Better to figure out how to pay that than negotiate with a hospital for payments later. There are many websites that have tips on ways to save money (even making your own laundry detergent, washing your hair with baking soda instead of shampoo, etc).

Best of luck!

venusfire

[venusfire503 54]

I finally found the MENA forum.. thats! :-D I thought you mean the envelope that I get after I mail the petition. The NOA or something like that. I understand it that when I get the NOA I am to mail to him the complete packet that I mailed to USCIS and he is to take that to his interview in Casablanca. So, when his visa is approved and he has it in hand, I will then get the 'conspicuous brown envelope' in the mail? And I take it to airport when he arrives?

As far as another trip I believe that is financially impossible. But I do have lots of emails as poof, and we have about 560 pics, and if I do say so myself we make a quite lovely couple...lol I think a blind person would not see that when the CO looks at the pics. Inshallah I can print out the phone cards that I bought, but I dont think I can get a list of the numbers I called with it. I will have to see.

Missy

Missy,

You're welcome!

Your SO will be the one handed the packet. Make sure he knows not to open it. You most likely will never see it (I only saw 'ours' because I went over with him so we could travel here together) since he'll have to hand it over before you'd see him in the airport. Make sure he keeps it in his carry on. Oh, and I'd recommend putting it inside a separate bag or something so it doesn't get ripped open accidently. (yes, I'm a little paranoid with things like this)

As far as the phone cards, are you buying them prepaid? I was doing that, but then found a rechargeable one online (flatrateonline.net) that has lower rates (we still use it for when he wants to call home) and allows you to print out a statement of the numbers you called. If you can find one with a better rate, it will save you more money, and then you can also have the 'bill' to print out as more proof of an ongoing relationship.

Also, do you two IM each other? You can save tons of money if you do that instead of calling. He can go to the internet cafe (if he doesn't have his own computer or a friend's to borrow) to IM you for far less than it costs you two to call each other. Since you are unemployed (as was I), you can adapt your schedule a little more to his and communicate online. The best part is, if you have a webcam and microphone, you can even see and hear each other - even better than the phone, and less expensive.

venusfire

[MouadsWife 161]

YOU CAN WASH YOUR HAIR WITH BAKING SODA?????? I'll have to try that... not sure my 15 years old will like that idea...lol And about the the "marriage license, AOS, etc..." I got mairried 20 years ago, how much are they today? And whats a 'AOS"? I have thought about Health Insurance, especially since I dont have it anymore myself! I am getting ready to mail off the packet in about a week hopefully... some cases I have seen them be approved in 8 months approximately.. so Im hoping ours wont take any longer. I told him I would rather save the money and come there when he's approved so we can fly back together. Im really nervous about him going through the airport, and changing flights so many times. When I went over there, I seen so many ppl harrasses, being profiled by security just really made me grr and I dont want him to go through that. As much as I fool myself about going back before his interview I dont think its possible. Playing the lottery at this point is really starting to sound like a good possibility...lol

I did call the company I have my calling card with. Callingcards.com and they did say that they can provide a list of telepehone numbers I have called with the card. We dont talk in the phone that much, we mostly talk online. Usually the only time I call is to tell him I miss him or to get his behind in the cyber to talk to me.. lol Be we talk about twice a day online. I thought about sending uscis printouts or portions of our chats but we always end up saying something we shouldnt and mess it up... lol Im hoping I have gathered up enough proof!

Missy

[AbbynSheryl 0]

we have 33 years gap but i took 3 trips in 10 months to see her last year.

i will be there with her in the interview.

i doubt if the age will be issue.

abby n sheryl