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[Justdazed 1]

National Identification Number = SIN ?

Have u ever been to the US? - I have been traveling to the US since I was born because we have property down there. My last vist was my longest at 6 weeks should I just put that?

thanks

[raymaga 25]

I travelled to the U.S. several hundred times since birth from Canada, so I couldn't possibly document every trip either.

I just attached an "attachment page", with my name, Form #, and question # at the top, stating that I had travelled to the U.S. numerous times since birth and there were too many to document separately. I said the trips lasted in length from several hours to several weeks for the purpose of shopping and vacation and then I listed the states I had travelled to. Very basic, short letter, and it worked just fine.

Edited June 27, 2006 by raymaga

[Buttons 0]

I wondering about the national ID number too? Would this be our SIN ?

[zyggy 9]

I wondering about the national ID number too? Would this be our SIN ?

A SIN is Not a National ID Number... you would put NONE for this blank.

And you can state "Frequent Visits of no more than X days duration" for the question that asks about visits. The Consulates in Canada understand that Canadians take short visit to the US all the time and there is no way that they can remember them all..

[Waiting in Vancouver 6]

I just made an attachement and stated all of my trips to the US to see my fiancee then at the end of the list I wrote a paragraph stating that I had been to the US since I was a child on numerous occasions and unfortunately do not know the dates ...

[Reba 2]

I just made an attachement and stated all of my trips to the US to see my fiancee then at the end of the list I wrote a paragraph stating that I had been to the US since I was a child on numerous occasions and unfortunately do not know the dates ...

same here pretty much. I listed the dates of trips the past year before my application and noted that as I had lived only one and a half hours from the border my entire life, several trips of various durations since birth.

[Justdazed 1]

I wondering about the national ID number too? Would this be our SIN ?

A SIN is Not a National ID Number... you would put NONE for this blank.

And you can state "Frequent Visits of no more than X days duration" for the question that asks about visits. The Consulates in Canada understand that Canadians take short visit to the US all the time and there is no way that they can remember them all..

Actually it is:

National Identification Number

I looked it up

[zyggy 9]

I wondering about the national ID number too? Would this be our SIN ?

A SIN is Not a National ID Number... you would put NONE for this blank.

And you can state "Frequent Visits of no more than X days duration" for the question that asks about visits. The Consulates in Canada understand that Canadians take short visit to the US all the time and there is no way that they can remember them all..

Actually it is:

National Identification Number

I looked it up

Read further...

The use of the Social Insurance Number (SIN) as a "de facto" ID number has not become as widespread. There are only certain specified instances where a person must provide a SIN (namely for tax or retirement benefit related issues). In other instances, a business is free to ask for a person's SIN, but they cannot deny service on the basis that the person can't or won't provide one.

"De facto" does not equate to "is"... so my response remains...

Edited June 28, 2006 by zyggy

[Justdazed 1]

The fact that they ask for a National Identification Number solidifies my decision to use it there instead of putting NONE. I read what you quoted and "it has not because as widespread" and "de facto" are very ambiguous. Also the definition states:

"A National Identification Number is used by the governments of many countries as a means of tracking their citizens, permanent residents, and temporary residents for the purposes of work, taxation, government benefits, health care, and other governmentally-related functions. Sometimes, the number will appear on an identity card issued by a country."

I do not believe either is wrong but I know some people have put their SIN number for that question.

Edited June 28, 2006 by bride2be

[zyggy 9]

The fact that they ask for a National Identification Number solidifies my decision to use it there instead of putting NONE. I read what you quoted and "it has not because as widespread" and "de facto" are very ambiguous. Also the definition states:

"A National Identification Number is used by the governments of many countries as a means of tracking their citizens, permanent residents, and temporary residents for the purposes of work, taxation, government benefits, health care, and other governmentally-related functions. Sometimes, the number will appear on an identity card issued by a country."

I do not believe either is wrong but I know some people have put their SIN number for that question.

I'm a little bit of a privacy zealot... being a former employee of the government (CBP), you have no idea how much information is out there about each and every person.. it's all pretty scary if you know about it..

I don't like putting any identifying number unless it is absolutely required. We put NONE on our form and nothing was said... I would rather put NONE and have it asked for later, then just put it on there and let it get out...

We all need to become better stewards of our private information... This is a case where it is not needed, so don't give it to them..

Edited June 28, 2006 by zyggy

[Justdazed 1]

The fact that they ask for a National Identification Number solidifies my decision to use it there instead of putting NONE. I read what you quoted and "it has not because as widespread" and "de facto" are very ambiguous. Also the definition states:

"A National Identification Number is used by the governments of many countries as a means of tracking their citizens, permanent residents, and temporary residents for the purposes of work, taxation, government benefits, health care, and other governmentally-related functions. Sometimes, the number will appear on an identity card issued by a country."

I do not believe either is wrong but I know some people have put their SIN number for that question.

I'm a little bit of a privacy zealot... being a former employee of the government (CBP), you have no idea how much information is out there about each and every person.. it's all pretty scary if you know about it..

I don't like putting any identifying number unless it is absolutely required. We put NONE on our form and nothing was said... I would rather put NONE and have it asked for later, then just put it on there and let it get out...

We all need to become better stewards of our private information... This is a case where it is not needed, so don't give it to them..

Fair Enough.