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Actually we have discussed my moving to Morocco and that is out of the question because I have a dependant child who I am responsible for and it would not be possible for him to live in Morocco. My fiancee is willing to sacrifice being with his family for the next 4 years (at least that long) until I am able to move from this country if we choose to live in Morocco at that time. To be honest I would move there in a second if it was possible because I loved the country when I was there and to avoid all of the problems we face with the visa that would be a dream come true if it were possible.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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At least you have a back up plan if the US option does not work out.

My step son actually lived with me for a year, but both parents agreed.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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We are considering many "back up" plans. He has already applied for a visa to Canada hoping he can get on some kind of work visa and now he is going to try applying for a work visa to Australia. We have even considered Mexico but we havent even tried the USA yet. We just want to be together and we dont want to put all of our eggs in one basket just in case the age thing presents a problem.

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Even though the interview is in Morocco, the interviewers are Americans so the talk about culture and religion doesn't make the cut. More than one trip is HIGHLY recommended, lots of pics and everything everyone else has said. As much as we would like to think it doesn't matter, they have their own judgments and experience. You shouldn't have a problem, but your fiance needs to have legit proof in their eyes. I wish you the best!

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We are considering many "back up" plans. He has already applied for a visa to Canada hoping he can get on some kind of work visa and now he is going to try applying for a work visa to Australia. We have even considered Mexico but we havent even tried the USA yet. We just want to be together and we dont want to put all of our eggs in one basket just in case the age thing presents a problem.

What about the dependent child?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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We are considering many "back up" plans. He has already applied for a visa to Canada hoping he can get on some kind of work visa and now he is going to try applying for a work visa to Australia. We have even considered Mexico but we havent even tried the USA yet. We just want to be together and we dont want to put all of our eggs in one basket just in case the age thing presents a problem.

Leave any other US visa applications off your list if you are about to file a K-1 as that can raise flags or at least complicate the matter. My gut says even Canada could be a problem.

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22 X 2 + 6 = 51

Check your math

Just check the Math, I bet your son is older than 22, how do you want to proof this relationship?!! just online IM, email an travel doesn't mean any thing... You might be able to adopt him as your son and then Marry him, lol

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Even though the interview is in Morocco, the interviewers are Americans so the talk about culture and religion doesn't make the cut. More than one trip is HIGHLY recommended, lots of pics and everything everyone else has said. As much as we would like to think it doesn't matter, they have their own judgments and experience. You shouldn't have a problem, but your fiance needs to have legit proof in their eyes. I wish you the best!

Not true. The American interiewers are very familiar with local traditions and cultures and language. In every consulate where they work.

Cases where particulars go strongly against local tradition, culture, religion cause many doubts in the minds of the interviewers though they may have been born and raised in Cleveland or Topeka. It is their job to look for and deny visas on the basis of fraud. As Pushbrk says, like it or not, them's the facts. In a high fraud country there is a reason they scrutinize such cases.

Burying ones head, denying things which are less than politically correct, will not benefit the OP who will need very strong evidence, and not just a stack of papers and photos as mentioned, to overcome three or four "strikes" before they step up to the plate. I promise you, the local culture and tradations DO matter to the American interviewers.

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Again TIME together is best evidences...sometimes casa wont even look at pictures or emails, they are very hard to predict what they will do at the interview. Yes HE will be the one to present the evidences but together you MAKE the evidences and in most cases you send it to him for interview. My age differences are not as much as yours but close, it can be done, but it took about 3 years of constant struggle to get there and two trips.

Loving a place to visit is one thing, living there is another. What job would he have to provide for you, how would you live, where, etc can you work there? Will you have insurance there, think about it. Does it seem hes in a hurry to get out of Morocco by pushing for the papers and now even in Canada, if so slow down.

Think also when here what job will he do, does he have good english, can he fill out the work applications, can you support him? Twenty years fr now then what, your 70s hes 40s, just try to understand what can be involved in this situation but it can happen, in time

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Filed: Country: Morocco
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Yes these are really the hard to face facts arent they? We have talked and talked and talked about everything that has been mentioned here. I will never give up hope but really it is now in my mind that I will have more of a struggle than I even predicted. Im glad I posted and asked the questions because these are things I needed to hear.

Of course we have talked about everything such as work, children, our age difference in the future when its not so pretty as it is today, his family, my family...........believe me all of these topics have been talked about. He has never been in a major hurry to come to the USA and it hasnt been so desperate until AFTER we met in person. Now it seems so much harder to be apart while we wait.

He has a degree from Morocco and can work as an electrician. Yes he has a good job but the issue is my son which is why I cannot move to Morocco. If he is able to come here I would have enough to support him until he is able to find work. I was told yesterday there is a 6 month wait before he will even be available to find a job in the USA but I dont know if that is true or not. He speaks english better than alot of the immigrants who are here now and he will have no problem filling out a job application. Im not worried about those issues because the main issue is............will Morocco even grant the visa to a couple with our age difference???? And I dont want to wait 3 or more years because if that is the case we might as well wait 4 years and then I can move there!!!!!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Australia
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It's curious that you guys were looking at work visas for Australia... The work visas aren't too difficult to get if you have the right skills, but they are very pricey (over $2000 AUD for the skilled migrant worker visa, just to apply, and double it if you have a dependant) not to mention the cost of plane tickets to get here AND the cost of living. If you don't have a lot of money this is not a good option for you! Our lifestyle is excellent but very expensive.

Along with the others I highly suggest either you visit Morocco again, or if he can get a tourist visa he should come visit you. Not only for your relationship evidence, but to see if you are compatible in a more long term situation. My fiance and I saw each other every weekend for the first 8 months of our relationship, then lived together a month, I went back to Australia for a while then came back and lived with him for three more months. We established during that time that we could live together and not kill each other :lol:

Anyway, I wish you luck in whatever you decide to do and however it turns out. Only you know what it's like between your fiance and yourself and if it's meant to be, you will find a way!

July 2007 - met Jesse at a beach party held by mutual friends in Long Island, NY

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Morocco
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Isra,

I have another idea. If you can't afford to go again right now, what about saving up a little at a time until you can and THEN applying for the visa? Then you'll have more time since you met, as well as 2 trips to show that you're serious.

I think the most important thing is his ability to convince the interviewer of his seriousness about you. That can be done, as long as he is sincere. Save up as much proof as you can, and organize it nicely. Read through the forums for information about how others have done it. For our K-1, we had notebooks with things organized with tab separations, and all kinds of proof. Yes, email, phone calls, and trips are good. Lots of pictures. We also ordered our engraved (with our names inside) wedding bands (online, so we could pick them out together) during the process, and included the receipts in the binders he took to the interview.

I think all of the prep work was helpful. I made sure to fill out all forms and triple check them. I even filled out forms I wasn't sure I needed - some in French as well as English. We had so much information, we needed several binders. I really think the most important thing, though, was that my sweetie was very calm and persistent in the interview. He said he got that lady that everyone dreads, and that she kept saying things to him like "this relationship doesn't make sense", and asking him the same questions over and over. He just kept answering her, and didn't let it get to him. I like to say that either she was finally convinced, or just gave up. Either way, he's been here almost 2-1/2 years, and we're very happy.

Make sure to check out the MENA forums.

Best of luck!

venusfire

met online May 2006

visited him in Morocco July 2006

K-1 petition sent late September 2006 after second visit

December 2006 - third trip - went for his visa interview (stood outside all day)

visa approved! arrived here together right before Christmas 2006

married January 2007

AOS paperwork sent February 2007

RFE (yipee)

another RFE (yikes)

AOS approval July 2007

sent Removal of Conditions paperwork 01 May 2009

received I-751 NOA 14 May 2009

received ASC appt. notice 28 May 2009

biometrics appt. 12 June 2009

I-751 approval date 25 Sept 2009 (no updates on the system - still says 'received'/"initial review")

19 Oct 2009 - got text message "card production ordered"

24 Oct 2009 - actual card in the mail box!

sent his N-400 - 14 May 2010

check cashed 27 May 2010

NOA received 29 May 2010 (dated 24 May)

Biometrics Appointment Letter received 17 June 2010

Biometrics scheduled for 08 July 2010; walk-in successfully done in Philadelphia 07 July 2010

02 Oct 2010 - FINALLY got email saying the case was being transferred to the local office. Hoping to get his interview letter soon...

05 Oct 2010 - received interview letter!!!!

08 November 2010 - scheduled for N-400 interview

- went together for interview; file isn't there - need to wait to be rescheduled

Jan 2011 - went for Infopass

25 Feb 2011 - interview

19 April 2011 - Infopass

8 July 2011 - HE'S FINALLY A CITIZEN - WOO HOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

30 July 2011 - citizenship party

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Thank you venusfire that is really helpful information. I have a feeling I will be making another trip there since it appears we will have alot more time invested in this than I had thought in the beginning. I wont be able to be away from him the entire time so yes I will have to go there again.

I know he will do ok in the interview but that was a great idea about the binders, the rings and the receipts. I will use those suggestions if you dont mind. Thank you again!!!!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Morocco
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Thank you venusfire that is really helpful information. I have a feeling I will be making another trip there since it appears we will have alot more time invested in this than I had thought in the beginning. I wont be able to be away from him the entire time so yes I will have to go there again.

I know he will do ok in the interview but that was a great idea about the binders, the rings and the receipts. I will use those suggestions if you dont mind. Thank you again!!!!

Isra,

Yes - please use any suggestions you find - mine or anyone else's. Do plenty of research - some people here post so much valuable information. I'm already on part 3 (1 was visa, 2 was 'greencard', 3 is removing conditions), and I still found some wonderful ideas on the forums about types of proof to send, ways to organize/package the information, etc. Someone somewhere had a good point. Imagine you're an officer, looking at files all of the time. Now, you see a disorganized file and a neat, orderly file, and it's the end of the day. Which one would you rather deal with? If you're like most people, that disorganized file will continually find itself thrown back on the bottom of the pile. Also, you're more likely to get RFE if they can't easily find things. I've put 'cover sheets' on individual sections when I thought extra explanations might be helpful. I read somewhere to put tabs in between sections (for removing conditions, I checked the USCIS website, and they requested them on the bottom of the pages).

Good luck!

venusfire

met online May 2006

visited him in Morocco July 2006

K-1 petition sent late September 2006 after second visit

December 2006 - third trip - went for his visa interview (stood outside all day)

visa approved! arrived here together right before Christmas 2006

married January 2007

AOS paperwork sent February 2007

RFE (yipee)

another RFE (yikes)

AOS approval July 2007

sent Removal of Conditions paperwork 01 May 2009

received I-751 NOA 14 May 2009

received ASC appt. notice 28 May 2009

biometrics appt. 12 June 2009

I-751 approval date 25 Sept 2009 (no updates on the system - still says 'received'/"initial review")

19 Oct 2009 - got text message "card production ordered"

24 Oct 2009 - actual card in the mail box!

sent his N-400 - 14 May 2010

check cashed 27 May 2010

NOA received 29 May 2010 (dated 24 May)

Biometrics Appointment Letter received 17 June 2010

Biometrics scheduled for 08 July 2010; walk-in successfully done in Philadelphia 07 July 2010

02 Oct 2010 - FINALLY got email saying the case was being transferred to the local office. Hoping to get his interview letter soon...

05 Oct 2010 - received interview letter!!!!

08 November 2010 - scheduled for N-400 interview

- went together for interview; file isn't there - need to wait to be rescheduled

Jan 2011 - went for Infopass

25 Feb 2011 - interview

19 April 2011 - Infopass

8 July 2011 - HE'S FINALLY A CITIZEN - WOO HOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

30 July 2011 - citizenship party

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