POE is in dublin?

[freetv 7]

So we got the k1 visa, packed up, bought our tickets from Dublin to Tampa, and I start looking at poe on visajourney and find out that Dublin, Ireland is a poe? How does that work?

[Dave & Jenny 0]

So we got the k1 visa, packed up, bought our tickets from Dublin to Tampa, and I start looking at poe on visajourney and find out that Dublin, Ireland is a poe? How does that work?

There is a special arrangement with the Irish and US government which allows Customs and Immigrartions for the US to be done at Dublin Airport (for some flights to the US, but not all). This is just like a US Embassy - it is "US soil" and once you are through their processing you are considered to be in the USA. This is pretty unique to Ireland - as far as I know, this is the ONLY country with this arrangement. I only know about this because I used to work for a company with offices in Ireland. Unfortunately, I never got to take advantage of this because I was always on the wrong flights.

[freetv 7]

So we got the k1 visa, packed up, bought our tickets from Dublin to Tampa, and I start looking at poe on visajourney and find out that Dublin, Ireland is a poe? How does that work?

There is a special arrangement with the Irish and US government which allows Customs and Immigrartions for the US to be done at Dublin Airport (for some flights to the US, but not all). This is just like a US Embassy - it is "US soil" and once you are through their processing you are considered to be in the USA. This is pretty unique to Ireland - as far as I know, this is the ONLY country with this arrangement. I only know about this because I used to work for a company with offices in Ireland. Unfortunately, I never got to take advantage of this because I was always on the wrong flights.

What about airlines? I am on american airlines, do you think they will be apart of that? Now I have no idea when we should go to the airport, show up early and be too early because I don't get to go though customs or show up too late because I do have to go through customs. LOL I also made sure our connecting flight was about 5 hours between flights to make sure we wouldn't miss it. Sigh

[pushbrk 12,898]

So we got the k1 visa, packed up, bought our tickets from Dublin to Tampa, and I start looking at poe on visajourney and find out that Dublin, Ireland is a poe? How does that work?

There is a special arrangement with the Irish and US government which allows Customs and Immigrartions for the US to be done at Dublin Airport (for some flights to the US, but not all). This is just like a US Embassy - it is "US soil" and once you are through their processing you are considered to be in the USA. This is pretty unique to Ireland - as far as I know, this is the ONLY country with this arrangement. I only know about this because I used to work for a company with offices in Ireland. Unfortunately, I never got to take advantage of this because I was always on the wrong flights.

What about airlines? I am on american airlines, do you think they will be apart of that? Now I have no idea when we should go to the airport, show up early and be too early because I don't get to go though customs or show up too late because I do have to go through customs. LOL I also made sure our connecting flight was about 5 hours between flights to make sure we wouldn't miss it. Sigh

Yes, go early. I don't know if it's only some flights or all flights to the US that enter the US in Dublin but Ireland is certainly not the only country with such an arrangement. I've cleared US from Ottawa and Vancouver numerous times and then the flight arrives in a domestic terminal at the US airport.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

So we got the k1 visa, packed up, bought our tickets from Dublin to Tampa, and I start looking at poe on visajourney and find out that Dublin, Ireland is a poe? How does that work?

There is a special arrangement with the Irish and US government which allows Customs and Immigrartions for the US to be done at Dublin Airport (for some flights to the US, but not all). This is just like a US Embassy - it is "US soil" and once you are through their processing you are considered to be in the USA. This is pretty unique to Ireland - as far as I know, this is the ONLY country with this arrangement. I only know about this because I used to work for a company with offices in Ireland. Unfortunately, I never got to take advantage of this because I was always on the wrong flights.

Many airports in Canada do this also. Maybe other countries. The US customs is in the airport before you leave. In the USA you will walk off the plane and into the terminal as if you just arrived from Toledo.

[payxibka 10,045]

So we got the k1 visa, packed up, bought our tickets from Dublin to Tampa, and I start looking at poe on visajourney and find out that Dublin, Ireland is a poe? How does that work?

There is a special arrangement with the Irish and US government which allows Customs and Immigrartions for the US to be done at Dublin Airport (for some flights to the US, but not all). This is just like a US Embassy - it is "US soil" and once you are through their processing you are considered to be in the USA. This is pretty unique to Ireland - as far as I know, this is the ONLY country with this arrangement. I only know about this because I used to work for a company with offices in Ireland. Unfortunately, I never got to take advantage of this because I was always on the wrong flights.

Many airports in Canada do this also. Maybe other countries. The US customs is in the airport before you leave. In the USA you will walk off the plane and into the terminal as if you just arrived from Toledo.

and some Caribbean countries

[Anh map 2,098]

So we got the k1 visa, packed up, bought our tickets from Dublin to Tampa, and I start looking at poe on visajourney and find out that Dublin, Ireland is a poe? How does that work?

There is a special arrangement with the Irish and US government which allows Customs and Immigrartions for the US to be done at Dublin Airport (for some flights to the US, but not all). This is just like a US Embassy - it is "US soil" and once you are through their processing you are considered to be in the USA. This is pretty unique to Ireland - as far as I know, this is the ONLY country with this arrangement. I only know about this because I used to work for a company with offices in Ireland. Unfortunately, I never got to take advantage of this because I was always on the wrong flights.

What about airlines? I am on american airlines, do you think they will be apart of that? Now I have no idea when we should go to the airport, show up early and be too early because I don't get to go though customs or show up too late because I do have to go through customs. LOL I also made sure our connecting flight was about 5 hours between flights to make sure we wouldn't miss it. Sigh

Just try to get on an earlier flight if one is available at your connecting airport. If there are empty seats they will often put you on.

[rebeccajo 14]

So we got the k1 visa, packed up, bought our tickets from Dublin to Tampa, and I start looking at poe on visajourney and find out that Dublin, Ireland is a poe? How does that work?

There is a special arrangement with the Irish and US government which allows Customs and Immigrartions for the US to be done at Dublin Airport (for some flights to the US, but not all). This is just like a US Embassy - it is "US soil" and once you are through their processing you are considered to be in the USA. This is pretty unique to Ireland - as far as I know, this is the ONLY country with this arrangement. I only know about this because I used to work for a company with offices in Ireland. Unfortunately, I never got to take advantage of this because I was always on the wrong flights.

What about airlines? I am on american airlines, do you think they will be apart of that? Now I have no idea when we should go to the airport, show up early and be too early because I don't get to go though customs or show up too late because I do have to go through customs. LOL I also made sure our connecting flight was about 5 hours between flights to make sure we wouldn't miss it. Sigh

I think with American Airlines you likely will clear immigration in Dublin.

I sat in the outbound terminal in Dublin last month and tried to figure out why it seemed some flights asked passengers to clear immigration in Dublin and some did not. After a few minutes the answer seemed to come to me - it wasn't the airline as much as it was the flight route. Flights going directly from Dublin to anywhere in the US were clearing immigration at Dublin. Flights making another stop outside the US before final destination in the US were clearing immigration at the US POE.

At any rate, do double check with AA. It's my experience that their flights always go directly from Dublin to the US (usually O'Hare). My husband and I took that flight almost four years ago and he turned in his K1 packet at Dublin.

How early should you show up to accomplish immigration? Airlines recommend two hours. If you've not flown through Dublin International before, you might be surprised how 'small' physically it is for an international airport. And it's pretty easy to navigate. The US Border Patrol agents at Dublin seem to be professional and friendly enough. (Just make sure you get your I94 in your passport - we had an officer who didn't know he was supposed to issue the I94).

Final note - even if you do clear immigration in Dublin, you will still be asked to clear customs once you reach the US.

And a personal note - unless a flight happens to be quite a bit lower in cost than others, I make it my goal to avoid any international travel that involves O'Hare. The airport is not laid out in a 'user friendly' pattern if you have another domestic flight to catch. And the entire staff in Customs are the most unhelpful I have met. When we came back from Dublin on United last month and landed at Dulles, we found their Customs Agents to be going almost over the top to make sure they did not cause anyone to miss a connection. Quite different from O'Hare.

Edited May 3, 2009 by rebeccajo

[Slightly Bonkers 0]

OP PM'd me, but here's the reply, just incase anyone else is following.

Dublin is only a POE for certain US flights, at certain times. If you call your airline they can tell you. It's usually based on the time of day and the airline. The immigration officers only work hours from 12-about5pm, if your flight is outside this time, you will probably do immigration in the US. If you fly Aerlingus or AA during 12-5, you will usually do POE in Dublin. For a definitive answer, you'll need to call your airline though.

If your flight goes through POE in Dublin, the check-in staff will give you your immigration forms. After you go through security you go to your gate. At the entrance to the gate there is a pre-check. Someone will check your forms and passport to make sure you've got them filled correctly. If you do, you go down to the gate.

Here you line up to speak to an immigration officer. There is no US citizen and non-US citizen line, every one lines up together. When you get to the top of the line you hand in your forms and your passport, and your K1 envelope. They'll do some processing at the counter and then bring you to secondary processing where you'll wait while they open your envelope, do some stamping and then hand you back your passport. At this point, you've now entered the US.

I usually travel on my own so don't know about travelling with your fiance, but I imagine you can go through the whole process with her/him.

When you get off the airplane at your destination, all Dublin passengers will be routed away from the immigration queue, directly to pick up your luggage. You do not go through POE twice. Once you've collected your luggage, you then approach customs, hand in your blue and white form. They will choose a small number to search the bags, but most will be allowed to continue out to the arrivals area.

If your Dublin flight is not a POE, it is identical to flights from anywhere in the world. You go through poe in the US with everyone else

[J&D 0]

My POE was Shannon Airport in Ireland. Very quick and easy. US Immigration Officals very friendly. I am sure Dublin will be the same.

[rebeccajo 14]

OP PM'd me, but here's the reply, just incase anyone else is following.

Dublin is only a POE for certain US flights, at certain times. If you call your airline they can tell you. It's usually based on the time of day and the airline. The immigration officers only work hours from 12-about5pm, if your flight is outside this time, you will probably do immigration in the US. If you fly Aerlingus or AA during 12-5, you will usually do POE in Dublin. For a definitive answer, you'll need to call your airline though.

If your flight goes through POE in Dublin, the check-in staff will give you your immigration forms. After you go through security you go to your gate. At the entrance to the gate there is a pre-check. Someone will check your forms and passport to make sure you've got them filled correctly. If you do, you go down to the gate.

Here you line up to speak to an immigration officer. There is no US citizen and non-US citizen line, every one lines up together. When you get to the top of the line you hand in your forms and your passport, and your K1 envelope. They'll do some processing at the counter and then bring you to secondary processing where you'll wait while they open your envelope, do some stamping and then hand you back your passport. At this point, you've now entered the US.

I usually travel on my own so don't know about travelling with your fiance, but I imagine you can go through the whole process with her/him.

When you get off the airplane at your destination, all Dublin passengers will be routed away from the immigration queue, directly to pick up your luggage. You do not go through POE twice. Once you've collected your luggage, you then approach customs, hand in your blue and white form. They will choose a small number to search the bags, but most will be allowed to continue out to the arrivals area.

If your Dublin flight is not a POE, it is identical to flights from anywhere in the world. You go through poe in the US with everyone else

I don't think it's so that CBP in Dublin are only working from 12 noon to 5 pm. In fact I'm certain that's not true. On April 2, the check-in staff was busily sending persons downstairs to US CBP well before noon.

But that's a 'hair splitter'. It is best to check with the airline to be certain.

[freetv 7]

Thanks for the replies, I sent an email to the airport and it turns out that my flight doesn't go through immig in dublin. I am not sure if thats a good thing or not... but at least now I know.

[scandal 951]

So we got the k1 visa, packed up, bought our tickets from Dublin to Tampa, and I start looking at poe on visajourney and find out that Dublin, Ireland is a poe? How does that work?

There is a special arrangement with the Irish and US government which allows Customs and Immigrartions for the US to be done at Dublin Airport (for some flights to the US, but not all). This is just like a US Embassy - it is "US soil" and once you are through their processing you are considered to be in the USA. This is pretty unique to Ireland - as far as I know, this is the ONLY country with this arrangement. I only know about this because I used to work for a company with offices in Ireland. Unfortunately, I never got to take advantage of this because I was always on the wrong flights.

Many airports in Canada do this also. Maybe other countries. The US customs is in the airport before you leave. In the USA you will walk off the plane and into the terminal as if you just arrived from Toledo.

All airports in Canada with scheduled commercial flights to the US are US POEs. That includes Vancouver, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal (Dorval), Halifax.

[rebeccajo 14]

Thanks for the replies, I sent an email to the airport and it turns out that my flight doesn't go through immig in dublin. I am not sure if thats a good thing or not... but at least now I know.

Just curious - do you have another stop before you land in the US?

What time of day does your flight leave Dublin?

I'm just curious cause I love this little puzzle.........

So we got the k1 visa, packed up, bought our tickets from Dublin to Tampa, and I start looking at poe on visajourney and find out that Dublin, Ireland is a poe? How does that work?

There is a special arrangement with the Irish and US government which allows Customs and Immigrartions for the US to be done at Dublin Airport (for some flights to the US, but not all). This is just like a US Embassy - it is "US soil" and once you are through their processing you are considered to be in the USA. This is pretty unique to Ireland - as far as I know, this is the ONLY country with this arrangement. I only know about this because I used to work for a company with offices in Ireland. Unfortunately, I never got to take advantage of this because I was always on the wrong flights.

Many airports in Canada do this also. Maybe other countries. The US customs is in the airport before you leave. In the USA you will walk off the plane and into the terminal as if you just arrived from Toledo.

All airports in Canada with scheduled commercial flights to the US are US POEs. That includes Vancouver, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal (Dorval), Halifax.

Where do these passengers clear customs? US or the Canadian POE?

[scandal 951]

Thanks for the replies, I sent an email to the airport and it turns out that my flight doesn't go through immig in dublin. I am not sure if thats a good thing or not... but at least now I know.

Just curious - do you have another stop before you land in the US?

What time of day does your flight leave Dublin?

I'm just curious cause I love this little puzzle.........

So we got the k1 visa, packed up, bought our tickets from Dublin to Tampa, and I start looking at poe on visajourney and find out that Dublin, Ireland is a poe? How does that work?

There is a special arrangement with the Irish and US government which allows Customs and Immigrartions for the US to be done at Dublin Airport (for some flights to the US, but not all). This is just like a US Embassy - it is "US soil" and once you are through their processing you are considered to be in the USA. This is pretty unique to Ireland - as far as I know, this is the ONLY country with this arrangement. I only know about this because I used to work for a company with offices in Ireland. Unfortunately, I never got to take advantage of this because I was always on the wrong flights.

Many airports in Canada do this also. Maybe other countries. The US customs is in the airport before you leave. In the USA you will walk off the plane and into the terminal as if you just arrived from Toledo.

All airports in Canada with scheduled commercial flights to the US are US POEs. That includes Vancouver, Calgary, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal (Dorval), Halifax.

Where do these passengers clear customs? US or the Canadian POE?

US customs are cleared at the Canadian airport.

After first clearing immigration control with checked bags & carry-ons, trolleys are wheeled past customs checkpoint. At that point passenger + baggage are technically admitted to the US. Checked bags are then placed on conveyor belts, while humans+carry-on bags go through the X ray detectors and proceed to gate.

I've even seen US agents (DEA?) with german shepherds sniffing the bags at the customs checkpoint, same as you would see at a POE on US soil.