David Duke Arrested in Czech Republic

[pedroh 21]

Having grown up in Louisiana and being subjected to Duke and his "politics" for my teen years and the years thereafter, I can tell you that he DOES deny the Holocaust and he DOES call for a purification of the "white race."

yup.. i've read his stuff, and his theories about white race purification are stupid..

there's no justification for any of Duke's hatred #######

[Saddle Bronc 124]

i guess his czech has been cached.

David Duke is an #######. My first election to vote in was him vs. Edwin Edwards for governor of Lousiana!

I remember in 1992, he managed to do a makeover with plastic surgery and better clothes--but he was on inside still a bumbling chop, as he showed by losing easily against Buchanan (still a chop, but way more articulate than Duke).

(edit: I actually compared his photo post-makeover, guess whom he looked like? A blond-haired version of Pakistani butcher-general Tikka Khan) That he went to a country which suffered Nazi takeover to actually promote Nazism shows his lack of capacity to learn.

[Peikko 1,575]

His own quotes are straight out of Nazi propaganda play books:

I was going to lecture about the Israeli influence over American and European foreign policy and the International Zionist Banking firms that are leading America and the world to financial oblivion, globalist hegemony and unending war...

Perhaps you need to dig a little deeper into history before you put your foot deeper into your mouth.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I know there's a tendency to quote out of context, but with stuff like that its really hard to see how...

[jundp 191]

It's really hard to see how you can quote Duke or Hitler out of context....

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Out of context: "Kill the Jooz".

With full context: "Kill the Jooz killers because we hate them and love the Jooz"

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It's really hard to see how you can quote Duke or Hitler out of context....

Nah you can quote Hitler out of context - its quite easy actually. There are quotes that sound halfway reasonable if you take out the rest of the quote

But yes - to their general public views, its very difficult to quote that out of context.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

It's really hard to see how you can quote Duke or Hitler out of context....

Nah you can quote Hitler out of context - its quite easy actually.

I suggest you two resolve your intellectual differences with a good ol fashioned death match.

My money's on jundp.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Eventually, occasionally, a semblance of justice makes an appearance.

How is this justice? Being arrested for sharing your opinion is something that is intollerable. If one wants to deny the horrors of the holocaust or even support the attrocities that occured or support racial pride and seperation, so be it. That makes them a bigot but it doesn't make them a criminal.

Well it does if the 6 year prison term awarded to the New York man who broadcast Hezbollah TV in the US is any indication.

We can certainly promote the idealistic view that societies should protect free speech when it comes to the promotion of fringe ideologies and extremist views, but the practical reality is that this is something that has been systematically chipped away at by laws (most notably post 9/11) that seek to make it easier to secure convictions related to terrorism offences for activities that weren't traditionally considered "criminal".

To be perfectly honest, there's no significant difference between a guy who was found guilty of providing material support to a terrorist group by broadcasting a TV channel Vs. a guy who is detained in a foreign country for "promoting" another kind of extremism, certainly not when that sort of extremism is related to the commission of hate crimes and/or terrorism in that country.

Considering that Hezbollah has actually fired missles recently, killed people, and is still presently an active terroristic threat...there is no comparison to someone denying that murders didn't happened 69 years ago. Especially if this fool is not involved in these murders in the first place. Hell, he wasn't even born yet when this sh*t was going down.

I'm no fan of David Duke or the Nazis, but let's compare apples to cactuses here. There is a significant difference.

No, there's not. Please re-read my post. I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to Holocaust Studies in Europe and the current atmosphere. There's no significant difference when you consider that what happened 69 years ago took the lives of at MINIMUM 11 million people...not counting soldiers from all countries involved, and that those ideologies are still being pushed by people like David Duke.

So David Duke today is as much of a threat as Hitler in 1938? I don't believe that.

No but allowing such ideologies to freely spread is exactly what happened in 1928 (not 1938) when Hitler began gaining supporters.

Europe has every right to restrict free speech if they so choose. As an American I don't want to go there here in the USA. I prefer an open exchange of thought, speech, and literature. I do not want my government to restrict thought, speech, and literature in order to shape their view of the reality they want us to buy in to. I want to formulate my own views by having access to opposing viewpoints.

Of course murderers and terrorists must continue to be arrested and prosecuted for committing actual crimes. Aiding our active enemies is not to be tolerated either. In time of war there are and always has been restrictions due to national security.

However, we are not at war with David Duke or the Nazis at this time. In fact, they are probably the least of our worries right now. The USA has bigger fish to fry. Europe probably does too. The core issue here is that the European governments wish to impose their official view of history without any opposing viewpoint. Groovy! I'm glad I'm not a citizen of their countries and it is up to their citizens to decide if this is acceptable or not. As an American I am appalled at any censorship or propagandization of history, but to each their own. Lies don't have a chance in the light of day. Shine a light on it, don't hide from it.

I'm definitely not pro-Nazi or a big fan of David Duke. I just believe the Europeans are going about this the wrong way.

If you dislike the "propagandization of history" why are you defending David Duke's right to do exactly that?

I would suggest that David Duke knew that what he was doing was against the law in the Czech Republic but went ahead and did it anyway. Most people are aware that holocaust denial is illegal in several European countries, just like they should know better than to get drunk in the Middle East. He gets what he deserves.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Eventually, occasionally, a semblance of justice makes an appearance.

How is this justice? Being arrested for sharing your opinion is something that is intollerable. If one wants to deny the horrors of the holocaust or even support the attrocities that occured or support racial pride and seperation, so be it. That makes them a bigot but it doesn't make them a criminal.

Well it does if the 6 year prison term awarded to the New York man who broadcast Hezbollah TV in the US is any indication.

We can certainly promote the idealistic view that societies should protect free speech when it comes to the promotion of fringe ideologies and extremist views, but the practical reality is that this is something that has been systematically chipped away at by laws (most notably post 9/11) that seek to make it easier to secure convictions related to terrorism offences for activities that weren't traditionally considered "criminal".

To be perfectly honest, there's no significant difference between a guy who was found guilty of providing material support to a terrorist group by broadcasting a TV channel Vs. a guy who is detained in a foreign country for "promoting" another kind of extremism, certainly not when that sort of extremism is related to the commission of hate crimes and/or terrorism in that country.

Considering that Hezbollah has actually fired missles recently, killed people, and is still presently an active terroristic threat...there is no comparison to someone denying that murders didn't happened 69 years ago. Especially if this fool is not involved in these murders in the first place. Hell, he wasn't even born yet when this sh*t was going down.

I'm no fan of David Duke or the Nazis, but let's compare apples to cactuses here. There is a significant difference.

No, there's not. Please re-read my post. I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to Holocaust Studies in Europe and the current atmosphere. There's no significant difference when you consider that what happened 69 years ago took the lives of at MINIMUM 11 million people...not counting soldiers from all countries involved, and that those ideologies are still being pushed by people like David Duke.

So David Duke today is as much of a threat as Hitler in 1938? I don't believe that.

No but allowing such ideologies to freely spread is exactly what happened in 1928 (not 1938) when Hitler began gaining supporters.

Europe has every right to restrict free speech if they so choose. As an American I don't want to go there here in the USA. I prefer an open exchange of thought, speech, and literature. I do not want my government to restrict thought, speech, and literature in order to shape their view of the reality they want us to buy in to. I want to formulate my own views by having access to opposing viewpoints.

Of course murderers and terrorists must continue to be arrested and prosecuted for committing actual crimes. Aiding our active enemies is not to be tolerated either. In time of war there are and always has been restrictions due to national security.

However, we are not at war with David Duke or the Nazis at this time. In fact, they are probably the least of our worries right now. The USA has bigger fish to fry. Europe probably does too. The core issue here is that the European governments wish to impose their official view of history without any opposing viewpoint. Groovy! I'm glad I'm not a citizen of their countries and it is up to their citizens to decide if this is acceptable or not. As an American I am appalled at any censorship or propagandization of history, but to each their own. Lies don't have a chance in the light of day. Shine a light on it, don't hide from it.

I'm definitely not pro-Nazi or a big fan of David Duke. I just believe the Europeans are going about this the wrong way.

If you dislike the "propagandization of history" why are you defending David Duke's right to do exactly that?

I would suggest that David Duke knew that what he was doing was against the law in the Czech Republic but went ahead and did it anyway. Most people are aware that holocaust denial is illegal in several European countries, just like they should know better than to get drunk in the Middle East. He gets what he deserves.

I agree - its a weird stance to take on the issue - what exactly is the "opposing viewpoint" on the Holocaust?

From what I've seen Holocaust Deniers generally aren't interested in a "free exchange" of ideas or an open debate - as much as plugging their revisionist sources with little or no reference to the established historical record.

[fozzie 41]

I was going to lecture about the Israeli influence over American and European foreign policy and the International Zionist Banking firms that are leading America and the world to financial oblivion, globalist hegemony and unending war.

Now they seek a terrible, catastrophic war with Iran.

That is why extremist Jewish organizations worked to keep my message and ideas from the Czech people and the world.

So its Israel that want to wipe Iran off the map?

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

I was going to lecture about the Israeli influence over American and European foreign policy and the International Zionist Banking firms that are leading America and the world to financial oblivion, globalist hegemony and unending war.

Now they seek a terrible, catastrophic war with Iran.

That is why extremist Jewish organizations worked to keep my message and ideas from the Czech people and the world.

So its Israel that want to wipe Iran off the map?

[peejay 327]

Eventually, occasionally, a semblance of justice makes an appearance.

How is this justice? Being arrested for sharing your opinion is something that is intollerable. If one wants to deny the horrors of the holocaust or even support the attrocities that occured or support racial pride and seperation, so be it. That makes them a bigot but it doesn't make them a criminal.

Well it does if the 6 year prison term awarded to the New York man who broadcast Hezbollah TV in the US is any indication.

We can certainly promote the idealistic view that societies should protect free speech when it comes to the promotion of fringe ideologies and extremist views, but the practical reality is that this is something that has been systematically chipped away at by laws (most notably post 9/11) that seek to make it easier to secure convictions related to terrorism offences for activities that weren't traditionally considered "criminal".

To be perfectly honest, there's no significant difference between a guy who was found guilty of providing material support to a terrorist group by broadcasting a TV channel Vs. a guy who is detained in a foreign country for "promoting" another kind of extremism, certainly not when that sort of extremism is related to the commission of hate crimes and/or terrorism in that country.

Considering that Hezbollah has actually fired missles recently, killed people, and is still presently an active terroristic threat...there is no comparison to someone denying that murders didn't happened 69 years ago. Especially if this fool is not involved in these murders in the first place. Hell, he wasn't even born yet when this sh*t was going down.

I'm no fan of David Duke or the Nazis, but let's compare apples to cactuses here. There is a significant difference.

No, there's not. Please re-read my post. I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to Holocaust Studies in Europe and the current atmosphere. There's no significant difference when you consider that what happened 69 years ago took the lives of at MINIMUM 11 million people...not counting soldiers from all countries involved, and that those ideologies are still being pushed by people like David Duke.

So David Duke today is as much of a threat as Hitler in 1938? I don't believe that.

No but allowing such ideologies to freely spread is exactly what happened in 1928 (not 1938) when Hitler began gaining supporters.

Europe has every right to restrict free speech if they so choose. As an American I don't want to go there here in the USA. I prefer an open exchange of thought, speech, and literature. I do not want my government to restrict thought, speech, and literature in order to shape their view of the reality they want us to buy in to. I want to formulate my own views by having access to opposing viewpoints.

Of course murderers and terrorists must continue to be arrested and prosecuted for committing actual crimes. Aiding our active enemies is not to be tolerated either. In time of war there are and always has been restrictions due to national security.

However, we are not at war with David Duke or the Nazis at this time. In fact, they are probably the least of our worries right now. The USA has bigger fish to fry. Europe probably does too. The core issue here is that the European governments wish to impose their official view of history without any opposing viewpoint. Groovy! I'm glad I'm not a citizen of their countries and it is up to their citizens to decide if this is acceptable or not. As an American I am appalled at any censorship or propagandization of history, but to each their own. Lies don't have a chance in the light of day. Shine a light on it, don't hide from it.

I'm definitely not pro-Nazi or a big fan of David Duke. I just believe the Europeans are going about this the wrong way.

If you dislike the "propagandization of history" why are you defending David Duke's right to do exactly that?

I would suggest that David Duke knew that what he was doing was against the law in the Czech Republic but went ahead and did it anyway. Most people are aware that holocaust denial is illegal in several European countries, just like they should know better than to get drunk in the Middle East. He gets what he deserves.

Where did I ever say that I was defending David Duke or the Nazis? Where did I ever say that Europeans didn't have a legitimate reason to arrest him...in Europe? Where did I ever say I believe in Holocast denial? Where did I ever say I buy into Nazi ideology?

I was defending free speech and free expression as practiced here in the USA. Jeez...some of you folks only believe free speech is for stuff you believe in or fits into your comfort zone. That's a little one way don't you think? Kind of selfish too. What makes what you have to say or believe any more significant than anyone else?

Personally I disagree with censorship whether it happens here or anywhere else. The point I am trying to get across is that I think the Europeans are going about it wrong by censoring.

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

Eventually, occasionally, a semblance of justice makes an appearance.

How is this justice? Being arrested for sharing your opinion is something that is intollerable. If one wants to deny the horrors of the holocaust or even support the attrocities that occured or support racial pride and seperation, so be it. That makes them a bigot but it doesn't make them a criminal.

Well it does if the 6 year prison term awarded to the New York man who broadcast Hezbollah TV in the US is any indication.

We can certainly promote the idealistic view that societies should protect free speech when it comes to the promotion of fringe ideologies and extremist views, but the practical reality is that this is something that has been systematically chipped away at by laws (most notably post 9/11) that seek to make it easier to secure convictions related to terrorism offences for activities that weren't traditionally considered "criminal".

To be perfectly honest, there's no significant difference between a guy who was found guilty of providing material support to a terrorist group by broadcasting a TV channel Vs. a guy who is detained in a foreign country for "promoting" another kind of extremism, certainly not when that sort of extremism is related to the commission of hate crimes and/or terrorism in that country.

Considering that Hezbollah has actually fired missles recently, killed people, and is still presently an active terroristic threat...there is no comparison to someone denying that murders didn't happened 69 years ago. Especially if this fool is not involved in these murders in the first place. Hell, he wasn't even born yet when this sh*t was going down.

I'm no fan of David Duke or the Nazis, but let's compare apples to cactuses here. There is a significant difference.

No, there's not. Please re-read my post. I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to Holocaust Studies in Europe and the current atmosphere. There's no significant difference when you consider that what happened 69 years ago took the lives of at MINIMUM 11 million people...not counting soldiers from all countries involved, and that those ideologies are still being pushed by people like David Duke.

So David Duke today is as much of a threat as Hitler in 1938? I don't believe that.

No but allowing such ideologies to freely spread is exactly what happened in 1928 (not 1938) when Hitler began gaining supporters.

Europe has every right to restrict free speech if they so choose. As an American I don't want to go there here in the USA. I prefer an open exchange of thought, speech, and literature. I do not want my government to restrict thought, speech, and literature in order to shape their view of the reality they want us to buy in to. I want to formulate my own views by having access to opposing viewpoints.

Of course murderers and terrorists must continue to be arrested and prosecuted for committing actual crimes. Aiding our active enemies is not to be tolerated either. In time of war there are and always has been restrictions due to national security.

However, we are not at war with David Duke or the Nazis at this time. In fact, they are probably the least of our worries right now. The USA has bigger fish to fry. Europe probably does too. The core issue here is that the European governments wish to impose their official view of history without any opposing viewpoint. Groovy! I'm glad I'm not a citizen of their countries and it is up to their citizens to decide if this is acceptable or not. As an American I am appalled at any censorship or propagandization of history, but to each their own. Lies don't have a chance in the light of day. Shine a light on it, don't hide from it.

I'm definitely not pro-Nazi or a big fan of David Duke. I just believe the Europeans are going about this the wrong way.

If you dislike the "propagandization of history" why are you defending David Duke's right to do exactly that?

I would suggest that David Duke knew that what he was doing was against the law in the Czech Republic but went ahead and did it anyway. Most people are aware that holocaust denial is illegal in several European countries, just like they should know better than to get drunk in the Middle East. He gets what he deserves.

Where did I ever say that I was defending David Duke or the Nazis? Where did I ever say that Europeans didn't have a legitimate reason to arrest him...in Europe? Where did I ever say I believe in Holocast denial? Where did I ever say I buy into Nazi ideology?

I was defending free speech and free expression as practiced here in the USA. Jeez...some of you folks only believe free speech is for stuff you believe in or fits into your comfort zone. That's a little one way don't you think? Kind of selfish too. What makes what you have to say or believe any more significant than anyone else?

Personally I disagree with censorship whether it happens here or anywhere else. The point I am trying to get across is that I think the Europeans are going about it wrong by censoring.

[Peikko 1,575]

You think that's an example of odious political correctness? I think you have misunderstood the concept Charles.