David Duke Arrested in Czech Republic

[peejay 327]

Eventually, occasionally, a semblance of justice makes an appearance.

How is this justice? Being arrested for sharing your opinion is something that is intollerable. If one wants to deny the horrors of the holocaust or even support the attrocities that occured or support racial pride and seperation, so be it. That makes them a bigot but it doesn't make them a criminal.

Well it does if the 6 year prison term awarded to the New York man who broadcast Hezbollah TV in the US is any indication.

We can certainly promote the idealistic view that societies should protect free speech when it comes to the promotion of fringe ideologies and extremist views, but the practical reality is that this is something that has been systematically chipped away at by laws (most notably post 9/11) that seek to make it easier to secure convictions related to terrorism offences for activities that weren't traditionally considered "criminal".

To be perfectly honest, there's no significant difference between a guy who was found guilty of providing material support to a terrorist group by broadcasting a TV channel Vs. a guy who is detained in a foreign country for "promoting" another kind of extremism, certainly not when that sort of extremism is related to the commission of hate crimes and/or terrorism in that country.

Considering that Hezbollah has actually fired missles recently, killed people, and is still presently an active terroristic threat...there is no comparison to someone denying that murders didn't happened 69 years ago. Especially if this fool is not involved in these murders in the first place. Hell, he wasn't even born yet when this sh*t was going down.

I'm no fan of David Duke or the Nazis, but let's compare apples to cactuses here. There is a significant difference.

No, there's not. Please re-read my post. I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to Holocaust Studies in Europe and the current atmosphere. There's no significant difference when you consider that what happened 69 years ago took the lives of at MINIMUM 11 million people...not counting soldiers from all countries involved, and that those ideologies are still being pushed by people like David Duke.

So David Duke today is as much of a threat as Hitler in 1938? I don't believe that.

No but allowing such ideologies to freely spread is exactly what happened in 1928 (not 1938) when Hitler began gaining supporters.

Europe has every right to restrict free speech if they so choose. As an American I don't want to go there here in the USA. I prefer an open exchange of thought, speech, and literature. I do not want my government to restrict thought, speech, and literature in order to shape their view of the reality they want us to buy in to. I want to formulate my own views by having access to opposing viewpoints.

Of course murderers and terrorists must continue to be arrested and prosecuted for committing actual crimes. Aiding our active enemies is not to be tolerated either. In time of war there are and always has been restrictions due to national security.

However, we are not at war with David Duke or the Nazis at this time. In fact, they are probably the least of our worries right now. The USA has bigger fish to fry. Europe probably does too. The core issue here is that the European governments wish to impose their official view of history without any opposing viewpoint. Groovy! I'm glad I'm not a citizen of their countries and it is up to their citizens to decide if this is acceptable or not. As an American I am appalled at any censorship or propagandization of history, but to each their own. Lies don't have a chance in the light of day. Shine a light on it, don't hide from it.

I'm definitely not pro-Nazi or a big fan of David Duke. I just believe the Europeans are going about this the wrong way.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

The core issue here is that the European governments wish to impose their official view of history without any opposing viewpoint. Groovy!

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I'm definitely not pro-Nazi ...

[peejay 327]

The core issue here is that the European governments wish to impose their official view of history without any opposing viewpoint. Groovy!

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I'm definitely not pro-Nazi ...

If you have something to say or debate...do it. Cheap shots and innuendo are the tools of fools.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Your own words say it all.

[peejay 327]

Your own words say it all.

Your lack of words sez it all.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Added words are unnecessary when the excerpt of your own words says it all. Why editorialize when one can quote?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What is the "opposing view" of that particular history?

That the Holocaust didn't happen?

That it was exaggerated?

That more "research" is needed?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

What is the "opposing view" of that particular history?

That the Holocaust didn't happen?

That it was exaggerated?

That more "research" is needed?

Everyone knows a Nazi when they see one.

[Peikko 1,575]

This comes back to that absurd notion that all opinions are equally valid.

[jundp 191]

peejay, I agree that I wouldn't want ridiculous restrictions on free speech in America, however, DD wasn't in America. And he was in a country which saw 90% of it's Jewish population destroyed and another ethnic group (the Romi) nearly destroyed as well.

I don't understand what you mean by Europe wanting to oppose it's official view on history. What official view? Hitler and the National Socialist Party were responsible for the MURDER of 11 million people (at minimum...numbers vary from 11 to 17 million, with 11 being the prudent number). Eleven million people. The Final Solution was only aimed at Jews, but the fact is that homosexuals, Romi, mentally and physically disabled, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, Communists, and twins were also targeted for extermination.

There is no counter to this "official" view of history. It happened. And yes, they are imposing this on people. Why? Because only through education and understanding can we try to prevent something like this from happening again. Regardless, it still happened in Cambodia only 25 years after it happened in Europe. There is no other version. There should be no "free speech" when it comes to denying the Holocaust, IMHO in one of the countries where it occurred. You tell those people whose families were walled in Theriesenstadt that there was no Holocaust. Or executed in any of the nearly 10,000 concentration camps and sub-camps around Europe.

I don't get it.

[Peikko 1,575]

There is free speech anyway, just no freedom to incite based on Nazi ideology. That's not so difficult.

[Danno 1,228]

I went to Davidduke.com to see if in fact he was denying the slaughter of Jews under hitler and if it's there, I did not see it.

I did not see him calling for attacks on anyone, from what little I read he seems more intent on preserving the White race and Rights for whites.

He certainly sees Jews as being involved if not leading much of the problems in the past and present. But I might feel the same way about Liberals in America... doesn't mean I want to exterminate them.

I recall David Duke from back in the 80's I think it was, not sure what he has been up to all this time, certainly he has been writing books and articles all this time, if someone can quote him denying the Holocaust... or calling for the elimination of anygroup THAT would put him in the hitler camp. But if not liking a group makes one akin to -having dreams of Extermination-.... we might all be guilty.

My effort is not to "Stick up" for David Duke but rather to find out what he is really about.

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Here is a note on his web-site concerning his arrest, (complete with info on how donations may be made to help him in his defense

Yes, I am now free, at least temporarily

The outrage by so many Czech citizens and even many in the media after my arrest led the government to release me from my cell in the wee hours of the morning, After about 3 hours sleep I now write these words to you.

The charges, of course, from the beginning are specious. I was invited to the Czech Rep. originally to speak at one of the oldest and most famous universities in Europe, Charles University in Prague. It is also famous for being founded by heroic Czechs like Jan Hus who stood up and told the truth and believed that truth and its pursuit is the most important thing a man can do in his life, even if it costs him his life and freedom. This is the man who is the national hero of the Czech people.

As those who read my material know, I do not seek the suppression of any people, race or religion, but simply believe that Europeans have the human right to preserve our homelands and that our governments should be in the service of our own people and not the International Zionist Global matrix of financial and political power. I am not a man who denies that atrocities took place against Jews in the Second World War, but I argue forcefully that freedom of speech on this or any other issue is a basic human right of all people.

My lectures in the Czech republic were not on the subject of the Holocaust at all, in fact why all the constant attention on this subject by the media, when one considers the fact that Bolshevism killed, tortured and harmed tens of millions more people. I never speak about the Holocaust in Europe other than to say that it is a human rights outrage that people are imprisoned for simply having a differing opinion about an historical event.

I was going to lecture about the Israeli influence over American and European foreign policy and the International Zionist Banking firms that are leading America and the world to financial oblivion, globalist hegemony and unending war.

Now they seek a terrible, catastrophic war with Iran.

That is why extremist Jewish organizations worked to keep my message and ideas from the Czech people and the world.

I am doing tremendous numbers of interviews because of this false imprisonment, so we are reaching literally millions of people here in the Czech Rep. and around the world that I would not have reached otherwise.

I was lucky to have excellent legal representation, but although I am free we must be prepared for any legal challenge against my freedom and the right of Europeans to hear the legitimate ideas that I offer. I certainly am not guilty of any violation of Czech law either in its letter or spirit.

To that end, we need to raise considerable funds for legal defense and I hope that all supporters will take a moment to contribute to that necessity as well as the vital work I endeavor to continue for our people.

Please go to www.davidduke.com and give me the support I need to stay free and to continue to support your cause and mine.

“>Thanks for the outpouring of support from you in the wake of my arrest and imprisonment.

I am very thankful of the response so far and am anxious to hear from all of you.

Best to all.

David Duke

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I went to Davidduke.com to see if in fact he was denying the slaughter of Jews under hitler and if it's there, I did not see it.

From http://www.adl.org/special_reports/duke_ow..._holocaust.asp:

On the Holocaust

"While helping hundreds of thousands of refugees, Red Cross volunteers undoubtedly heard stories of Nazi brutality and rumors of mass gassings and they noted those rumors and kept an eye out for any evidence of them, but they saw nothing to indicate that the rumors were true."

-- My Awakening, p. 430 (1998)

"The official keepers of the Holocaust wage an international campaign to silence the disturbing questions. Most people never even hear the revisionist position because Jewish forces dominate the media and block mainstream access to material that questions Holocaust orthodoxy."

-- My Awakening, p. 430 (1998)

"Did you ever notice how many survivors they have? Did you ever notice that? Everybody – every time you turn around, 15,000 survivors meet here, 400 survivors convention there. I mean, did you ever notice? Nazis sure were inefficient, weren't they? Boy, boy, boy! ...You almost have no survivors that ever say they saw a gas chamber or saw the workings of a gas chamber...they'll say these preposterous stories that anybody can check out to be a lie, an absolute lie."

-- Evelyn Rich interview, March 1985

Duke: "Obviously, Jews gain certain advantages by promoting the Holocaust idea. It inspires tremendous financial aid for Israel. It makes organized Jewry almost immune from criticism. Whether the Holocaust is real or not, the Jews clearly have a motive for fostering the idea that it occurred. Not only do they have a motive, but they have the means with the media domination they now hold.

Hustler: "Do you really doubt the Holocaust occurred?

Duke: "Let's put it this way. I question whether 6 million Jews actually died in Nazi death camps. There are two major sources for Holocaust stories. One is the Nuremburg war-crimes trial, which has been shown by all honest historians to be a farce of justice. Another source is the great body of literature and media work, and at least 90% of that material is from biased Jewish sources."

-- Hustler interview, reprinted in NAAWP News, Issue #18, August 1982

My effort is not to "Stick up" for David Duke but rather to find out what he is really about.

Oh and here's another one, straight out of the right wings mouth...

KKK's David Duke Tells Iran Holocaust Conference That Gas Chambers Not Used to Kill Jews

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Perhaps he was misquoted

[jundp 191]

Having grown up in Louisiana and being subjected to Duke and his "politics" for my teen years and the years thereafter, I can tell you that he DOES deny the Holocaust and he DOES call for a purification of the "white race."