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[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

In fact, the owners of this web site must provide your name and address if a subpoena is presented.

You provided your name and address when you signed up here???

Your IP address is logged everytime you post. If you do it from your home, your ISP would provide the info. If from work your employer would.

Its not rocket science....

More is known about you that you could ever imagine....

-P

a guy in this area got busted in a fbi sting for child porn, tracked him down with the isp.

Quite true. But Captain Ewok can't track you down.

i don't believe we were discussing whether ewok could or not - just that if a supoena was presented to the owner of a site, he or she would have to divulge the users ip that is requested.

What about a dynamic vs static ip addressing?

Edited June 2, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

In fact, the owners of this web site must provide your name and address if a subpoena is presented.

You provided your name and address when you signed up here???

Your IP address is logged everytime you post. If you do it from your home, your ISP would provide the info. If from work your employer would.

Its not rocket science....

More is known about you that you could ever imagine....

-P

a guy in this area got busted in a fbi sting for child porn, tracked him down with the isp.

Quite true. But Captain Ewok can't track you down.

i don't believe we were discussing whether ewok could or not - just that if a supoena was presented to the owner of a site, he or she would have to divulge the users ip that is requested.

What about a dynamic vs static ip addressing?

unless the individual is changing isp's, they are still going to be identified by their range as one particular isp.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

In fact, the owners of this web site must provide your name and address if a subpoena is presented.

You provided your name and address when you signed up here???

Your IP address is logged everytime you post. If you do it from your home, your ISP would provide the info. If from work your employer would.

Its not rocket science....

More is known about you that you could ever imagine....

-P

a guy in this area got busted in a fbi sting for child porn, tracked him down with the isp.

Quite true. But Captain Ewok can't track you down.

i don't believe we were discussing whether ewok could or not - just that if a supoena was presented to the owner of a site, he or she would have to divulge the users ip that is requested.

What about a dynamic vs static ip addressing?

unless the individual is changing isp's, they are still going to be identified by their range as one particular isp.

That narrows it down to the service provider, which would include hundreds, or thousands, or hundreds of thousands using that provider. Dynamic ip addresses expire every 24 hours, or when a new connection is made, so what then?

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

In fact, the owners of this web site must provide your name and address if a subpoena is presented.

You provided your name and address when you signed up here???

Your IP address is logged everytime you post. If you do it from your home, your ISP would provide the info. If from work your employer would.

Its not rocket science....

More is known about you that you could ever imagine....

-P

a guy in this area got busted in a fbi sting for child porn, tracked him down with the isp.

Quite true. But Captain Ewok can't track you down.

i don't believe we were discussing whether ewok could or not - just that if a supoena was presented to the owner of a site, he or she would have to divulge the users ip that is requested.

What about a dynamic vs static ip addressing?

unless the individual is changing isp's, they are still going to be identified by their range as one particular isp.

That narrows it down to the service provider, which would include hundreds, or thousands, or hundreds of thousands using that provider. Dynamic ip addresses expire every 24 hours, or when a new connection is made, so what then?

the fbi is slicker than you'd think.

just a quick example: if they wanted to find you from something you said on vj, and you were using a dynamic ip - they could force ewok to release his ip list. then force the provider to provide a list of everyone with your first name from cali (which you have posted on vj before).........

a quick comparison of petitions with timelines thru uscis to that list of customers from the isp will be a short list i'd bet.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

In fact, the owners of this web site must provide your name and address if a subpoena is presented.

You provided your name and address when you signed up here???

Your IP address is logged everytime you post. If you do it from your home, your ISP would provide the info. If from work your employer would.

Its not rocket science....

More is known about you that you could ever imagine....

-P

a guy in this area got busted in a fbi sting for child porn, tracked him down with the isp.

Quite true. But Captain Ewok can't track you down.

i don't believe we were discussing whether ewok could or not - just that if a supoena was presented to the owner of a site, he or she would have to divulge the users ip that is requested.

What about a dynamic vs static ip addressing?

unless the individual is changing isp's, they are still going to be identified by their range as one particular isp.

That narrows it down to the service provider, which would include hundreds, or thousands, or hundreds of thousands using that provider. Dynamic ip addresses expire every 24 hours, or when a new connection is made, so what then?

the fbi is slicker than you'd think.

just a quick example: if they wanted to find you from something you said on vj, and you were using a dynamic ip - they could force ewok to release his ip list. then force the provider to provide a list of everyone with your first name from cali (which you have posted on vj before).........

a quick comparison of petitions with timelines thru uscis to that list of customers from the isp will be a short list i'd bet.

I love Obama, and think he is the best President ever!

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

You provided your name and address when you signed up here???

Your IP address is logged everytime you post. If you do it from your home, your ISP would provide the info. If from work your employer would.

Its not rocket science....

More is known about you that you could ever imagine....

-P

a guy in this area got busted in a fbi sting for child porn, tracked him down with the isp.

Quite true. But Captain Ewok can't track you down.

i don't believe we were discussing whether ewok could or not - just that if a supoena was presented to the owner of a site, he or she would have to divulge the users ip that is requested.

What about a dynamic vs static ip addressing?

unless the individual is changing isp's, they are still going to be identified by their range as one particular isp.

That narrows it down to the service provider, which would include hundreds, or thousands, or hundreds of thousands using that provider. Dynamic ip addresses expire every 24 hours, or when a new connection is made, so what then?

the fbi is slicker than you'd think.

just a quick example: if they wanted to find you from something you said on vj, and you were using a dynamic ip - they could force ewok to release his ip list. then force the provider to provide a list of everyone with your first name from cali (which you have posted on vj before).........

a quick comparison of petitions with timelines thru uscis to that list of customers from the isp will be a short list i'd bet.

I love Obama, and think he is the best President ever!

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[Volkswagon 0]

In fact, the owners of this web site must provide your name and address if a subpoena is presented.

You provided your name and address when you signed up here???

Your IP address is logged everytime you post. If you do it from your home, your ISP would provide the info. If from work your employer would.

Its not rocket science....

More is known about you that you could ever imagine....

-P

a guy in this area got busted in a fbi sting for child porn, tracked him down with the isp.

Quite true. But Captain Ewok can't track you down.

i don't believe we were discussing whether ewok could or not - just that if a supoena was presented to the owner of a site, he or she would have to divulge the users ip that is requested.

What about a dynamic vs static ip addressing?

unless the individual is changing isp's, they are still going to be identified by their range as one particular isp.

That narrows it down to the service provider, which would include hundreds, or thousands, or hundreds of thousands using that provider. Dynamic ip addresses expire every 24 hours, or when a new connection is made, so what then?

the fbi is slicker than you'd think.

just a quick example: if they wanted to find you from something you said on vj, and you were using a dynamic ip - they could force ewok to release his ip list. then force the provider to provide a list of everyone with your first name from cali (which you have posted on vj before).........

a quick comparison of petitions with timelines thru uscis to that list of customers from the isp will be a short list i'd bet.

What if you made up a first name when you registered and didn't post a timeline and use a dynamic ip? Just for the sake of discussion, not trying to be rude.

[PhiLandShiR 18]

What if you made up a first name when you registered and didn't post a timeline and use a dynamic ip? Just for the sake of discussion, not trying to be rude.

This may be a bit technical but here goes...

Any IP address range is restricted to 253 address at most on any given subnet.

An address of xxx.yyy.zzz.000 to xxx.yyy.zzz.255

I believe 000 and 255 are restricted but I am not sure... I would need to reread the IFC on subnets and I don't really want to fall asleep just now...

A DHCP server granting IP addresses on, say, your subnet will only grant an address within these limits.

Thus, even though the are thousands of addresses, each would be in units of 255 or less. Most ISPs will not load any given subnet to its max so as to not slow things down. This means that you would be grouped in a unit of less than 255 people and most likely a lot less. Usually all located in one geographic area due to router limitations. This could be as large as a small town or limited to a few city blocks. All limited by a max of 255 address...

Your ISP would know which subnet you are on because of your IP address and your network cards MAC. Media Access Control number. Its used by your computer in formatting the DHCP address request packet that your system sends to request an address. DHCP is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol. Basically this is the language used by computer systems to request an IP address from your ISP. Every MAC is unique from all others in the world.

What does this mean? It means that once your IP address is known, your ISP can match it to a MAC address and that can be linked directly to a computer system.

Hope this helps.

Phil

[Niels Bohr 72]

255.255.255.255 are not restricted. The routers (including the ISP routers) will use DHCP routing table to assign an IP to whatever subnet.

Today, IPs assigned to ISP and Businesses aren't based on class A, B, or whatever. They are based on classless assignments. This is to avoid the limitation of IP v/4 and problems.

Routers aren't really concerned with MACs as much as Switches are. Routers would be more directly related to IP forwarding than MAC forwarding. Although, the two are now synonymous since most infrastructures are hybrids routers/switches so MAC/IP forwarding are inter-related.

DHCP uses the broadcast 255.255.255.255 from a local host to assign a forwarding table with an unused IP to that host.

Edited June 8, 2009 by Niels Bohr

[rclouse 0]

One more vote for Linux (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.). Unless you're a hard core gamer (and with that h/w, you're not) anything Windoze can do Linux can do for free.

Otherwise go to TPB and get a copy of XP for free.

[PhiLandShiR 18]

One more vote for Linux (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.). Unless you're a hard core gamer (and with that h/w, you're not) anything Windoze can do Linux can do for free.

Otherwise go to TPB and get a copy of XP for free.

Linux (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) use the same process to get IP addresses...

How does using one of these OS's improve that process??

-P

[NickD 203]

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!

When you buy XP, or any software package from any store, you are NOT buying the software!! Microsoft NEVER sells software. NOT EVER!!

They sell a LICENSE to operate their software on a computer.

ONE LICENSE, ONE COMPUTER.

-P

I belive this if I buy it, I can put it on as many computers that I OWN. I do not loan it out or let others use it. I should be able to do that, Bill Gates is rich enough.

maybe wrong in your book, I dont care. I have 5 or 6 computers in my house with the same version of XP and same Liceense number. I had to call in once to Microsoft and they gave me a key. So I do not put it on computers out side of mine. I wont loan it out but I will continue to re install it and put it on differnt computers in my house.

Ok if you are rich, fine, if you have 10 machines, then buy 10 copys or license, to me, I buy it once then will put on differnt machines. Maybe I am using one machine at a time.

What lucky star were you born under? Purchased XP Pro and tried it first on an old computer, course the CD only contains a couple of bytes on it, the rest you have to download from the net. When I put it on the computer I intended to use, it was blocked by MS as an illegal copy. It only took me three months to square that away with MS, plus another 15 bucks. You think the USCIS wants evidence, wait until you have to deal with MS.

On these newer boxes, OS is on the HD, I did order recovery disk from HP using my model and serial number, another HP box had a HD failure after the warranty for a family member, got a new HD and did a raw load with my disks, it worked. If there is a difference between XP home premium and Pro, I haven't found it yet, all of my engineering programs run fine on Home, but Pro costs about a hundred bucks more. Try contacting your computer company for recovery disks, if you can find the serial number, may only cost you 15 bucks. But I had a lot of problems with Dell on this, so don't buy Dell anymore.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Phil is right. IP assignment is based on how fast the router works. A router has a build-in IOS that controls the switching fabric, and buffer size for packet control to prevent Head of Line delay that is caused by the wait at the input buffer waiting for the output buffer to clear.

Although, TCP and UDP can be controlled better using the Unix Programming method versus using the "winsock" libraries.

[PhiLandShiR 18]

255.255.255.255 are not restricted. The routers (including the ISP routers) will use DHCP routing table to assign an IP to whatever subnet.

Today, IPs assigned to ISP and Businesses aren't based on class A, B, or whatever. They are based on classless assignments. This is to avoid the limitation of IP v/4 and problems.

Routers aren't really concerned with MACs as much as Switches are. Routers would be more directly related to IP forwarding than MAC forwarding. Although, the two are now synonymous since most infrastructures are hybrids routers/switches so MAC/IP forwarding are inter-related.

DHCP uses the broadcast 255.255.255.255 from a local host to assign a forwarding table with an unused IP to that host.

255.255.255.255 is the broadcast address which as far as the host is concerned, makes it restricted... You can not assign that address to your computer so in that fashion it is restricted.

Most home computer systems do not utilize the improved IP v/6 format ....

DHCP protocol is based on Layer 2 transmissions to get IP addresses and that requires MAC functionality.

All said and done it still means that your computer system can be located and proven to be a source for an email...

-P

[PhiLandShiR 18]

What lucky star were you born under? Purchased XP Pro and tried it first on an old computer, course the CD only contains a couple of bytes on it, the rest you have to download from the net. When I put it on the computer I intended to use, it was blocked by MS as an illegal copy. It only took me three months to square that away with MS, plus another 15 bucks. You think the USCIS wants evidence, wait until you have to deal with MS.

On these newer boxes, OS is on the HD, I did order recovery disk from HP using my model and serial number, another HP box had a HD failure after the warranty for a family member, got a new HD and did a raw load with my disks, it worked. If there is a difference between XP home premium and Pro, I haven't found it yet, all of my engineering programs run fine on Home, but Pro costs about a hundred bucks more. Try contacting your computer company for recovery disks, if you can find the serial number, may only cost you 15 bucks. But I had a lot of problems with Dell on this, so don't buy Dell anymore.

I believe that XP Home has limitations on adding it to a Domain...

That is the only limit I have heard about...

-P