Olbermann and Hannity are both fvcking nuts

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Hannity: My Money Where Your Mouth Is

by Keith Olbermann

Fri Apr 24, 2009 at 09:38:50 AM PDT

Hannity's offer the other night to Chuck Grodin to 'prove' that waterboardng isn't torture by allowing it to be done to him, is too important to pass up, because of the image it will certainly produce. No matter what he says afterwards or how he tries to laugh it off, Hannity's certitude will be smashed by Hannity's natural, human panic.

...

Many, maybe most, of his viewers, will join him in the collective post-waterboarding lie that he never feared for his life. Regardless, the impact will be sufficient. If it changes the minds of one percent of his supporters, it will have been worth it. And think about the vast numbers of people who have no idea who he is, or who I am, or what this site is, who will know only that a boastful man literally had reality forced upon him.

Thus last night I made my offer to Hannity. He told Chuck he'd do it for families of the troops, and he'd let Chuck do it (Grodin demurred). Those were his only conditions. I'll add a few:

1. Hannity may be waterboarded live on his show. All I require is that a trustworthy outside observer be present to make sure the waterboarding is a legitimate recreation of what we did to detainees. Chuck Grodin is perfectly acceptable, or Hannity may nominate an alternate, but I must approve the identity of the observer.

2. Hannity may instead be waterboarded on tape if he prefers. In that event, I require that at least one non-Fox camera crew be permitted access to record all events, along with a trustworthy outside observer. Again, Grodin will be fine.

3. Hannity must identify the charity or charities, organization or organizations, to which he wants the donation made, so I can verify in advance that the money will indeed get to the families of American troops. The organization cannot be sponsored by, nor affiliated with, Hannity or his employers.

4. I will donate $1,000 (one thousand dollars) for every second of water-boarding Hannity endures. We will start the clock the moment the first water is poured on him. The clock will stop when Hannity confesses or begins to shout or scream on a prolonged basis, or the medical supervisor determines he is danger of organ failure.

5. If Hannity admits afterwards he was afraid for his life and that waterboarding is indeed torture, I will double my total contribution.

And I will repeat this offer each night on Countdown until he agrees or declines.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/2...uth-Is-(Update)

[almaty 19]

#######/ stupid is as stupid does

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Can you imagine though?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Can you imagine though?

They're both trivializing torture, turning it into a circus.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think the point does need to be made that waterboarding *is* torture, regardless of whether or not it is legally designated as such.

Though I agree - this probably isn't the best way to go about it.

Besides - its already been done.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Can you imagine though?

They're both trivializing torture, turning it into a circus.

Alberto Gonzales has them both beat on that front.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think a few journalists have voluntarily undergone waterboarding so that they could write about what its like.

[Niels Bohr 72]

I've read both the Fox News comments from viewers and MSNBC comments from viewers.

I noticed that each side comments has negative comments from the opposing sides. Honestly, I don't like Hannity and his friends at all because I'm just a logical person. Hannity and his team are extremists. They're not conservatists, or librils. Just plain old extremists.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I've read both the Fox News comments from viewers and MSNBC comments from viewers.

I noticed that each side comments has negative comments from the opposing sides. Honestly, I don't like Hannity and his friends at all because I'm just a logical person. Hannity and his team are extremists. They're not conservatists, or librils. Just plain old extremists.

Hannity I think is popular because he projects a sort of "everyman trustworthiness" (or at least that's the idea). In translation - what that means is that he's one of those stupid f*cks who sees "simple" (boneheaded) solutions to everything:

For example:

Youth offenders causing trouble? Cane the buggers

Can't get Bin Laden out of his hole? Nuke everything!

I don't know a great deal about Olbermann, he was on Bill Maher last night, but didn't seem particularly crazy there. I've not seen his show though - so I can't really comment on that.

Edited April 24, 2009 by Private Pike

[mawilson 2,133]

We must send a clear message to the terrorists: you WILL be tortured.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

We must send a clear message to the terrorists: you WILL be tortured.

Yes. Only torture will frighten them out of blowing themselves up.

[mawilson 2,133]

We must send a clear message to the terrorists: you WILL be tortured.

Yes. Only torture will frighten them out of blowing themselves up.

"You have nothing to fear, Mohammed. Americans are weak. If you're captured,

they will give you a lawyer and a cup of tea. May Allah be with you. Allah Akhbar!"

[Heracles 417]

We must send a clear message to the terrorists: you WILL be tortured.

Yes. Only torture will frighten them out of blowing themselves up.

"You have nothing to fear, Mohammed. Americans are weak. If you're captured,

they will give you a lawyer and a cup of tea. May Allah be with you. Allah Akhbar!"

I am still waiting on this new Liberal Yank information extraction technique. I have been asking for it for a good 4 years now with no response. Then again, I am sure with all of the drugs they abused in the 60's to now that they believe telepathy is valid method.

Note to Liberal yanks: Notice that ####### like this is not an issue overseas. (for obvious reasons)

Edited April 24, 2009 by Constellation

[one...two...tree 2,762]

We must send a clear message to the terrorists: you WILL be tortured.

Yes. Only torture will frighten them out of blowing themselves up.

"You have nothing to fear, Mohammed. Americans are weak. If you're captured,

they will give you a lawyer and a cup of tea. May Allah be with you. Allah Akhbar!"

Oh, is that how they recruit them? Mohammed, we want you to blow yourself up, but don't fear capture and torture. Hmmm....

[mawilson 2,133]

We must send a clear message to the terrorists: you WILL be tortured.

Yes. Only torture will frighten them out of blowing themselves up.

"You have nothing to fear, Mohammed. Americans are weak. If you're captured,

they will give you a lawyer and a cup of tea. May Allah be with you. Allah Akhbar!"

Oh, is that how they recruit them? Mohammed, we want you to blow yourself up, but don't fear capture and torture. Hmmm....

Not all terrorists are suicide bombers, Steven.