Backward Country...hmmmmmm

[Jenn! 918]

I would consider any country that treats woman as second class citizens as 'backwards'.

How do we decide which direction is backward and which direction is forward?

Maybe treating women like chattle and not giving them any rights is actually good for the long-term health of a society and we in the West are going backwards to a dark time when women had rights.

Maybe taking their rights away is actually the way forward and we deluded Westerners don't realize it.

Hmmm, hadn't pegged you as a relativist.....

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

However you look it, there's no way anyone coming from the US or other developed country somewhere relatively stable country, would consider a country where it is legal (for example) to stone a woman to death as anything less than backward.

How about looking at:-

Putting someone to death by electric chair, gas or lethal injection.

Having citizens that cannot afford healthcare or dental treatment.

Child Sex Trafficking.

People sleeping on the streets unable to get work or afford homes.

These all apply to the US. It's all a matter of perspective.

How about a country with crappy weather and horrible food. ie... the UK. Would that be backwards?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How about looking at:-

Putting someone to death by electric chair, gas or lethal injection.

Having citizens that cannot afford healthcare or dental treatment.

Child Sex Trafficking.

People sleeping on the streets unable to get work or afford homes.

These all apply to the US. It's all a matter of perspective.

Yes they do. And it is.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I would consider any country that treats woman as second class citizens as 'backwards'.

How do we decide which direction is backward and which direction is forward?

Maybe treating women like chattle and not giving them any rights is actually good for the long-term health of a society and we in the West are going backwards to a dark time when women had rights.

Maybe taking their rights away is actually the way forward and we deluded Westerners don't realize it.

Hmmm, hadn't pegged you as a relativist.....

I'm not. I'm not suggesting that something can be both backward and forward depending on where you stand. I'm suggesting that there is a backward and there is a forward but we may not realize which is which.

[almaty 19]

I would consider any country that treats woman as second class citizens as 'backwards'.

How do we decide which direction is backward and which direction is forward?

Maybe treating women like chattle and not giving them any rights is actually good for the long-term health of a society and we in the West are going backwards to a dark time when women had rights.

Maybe taking their rights away is actually the way forward and we deluded Westerners don't realize it.

Hmmm, hadn't pegged you as a relativist.....

I'm not. I'm not suggesting that something can be both backward and forward depending on where you stand. I'm suggesting that there is a backward and there is a forward but we may not realize which is which.

good points and so true...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

As I said, these judgments are ultimately subjective (based on the views of the individual as a result of their social background and upbringing).

Simple example - someone who is brought up good table manners would likely find it rude and 'backward' if someone were to pick their nose at the table, burp or eat with their hands.

[Jenn! 918]

I would consider any country that treats woman as second class citizens as 'backwards'.

How do we decide which direction is backward and which direction is forward?

Maybe treating women like chattle and not giving them any rights is actually good for the long-term health of a society and we in the West are going backwards to a dark time when women had rights.

Maybe taking their rights away is actually the way forward and we deluded Westerners don't realize it.

Hmmm, hadn't pegged you as a relativist.....

I'm not. I'm not suggesting that something can be both backward and forward depending on where you stand. I'm suggesting that there is a backward and there is a forward but we may not realize which is which.

Come on, pick a side!

[arwensun1965 0]

How about looking at:-

Putting someone to death by electric chair, gas or lethal injection.

Having citizens that cannot afford healthcare or dental treatment.

Child Sex Trafficking.

People sleeping on the streets unable to get work or afford homes.

These all apply to the US. It's all a matter of perspective.

Absolutely, but this is not considered backwards, and Rch I did not say the USA was backwards if you were reading my post correctly I said that I could, IF I were that is not that they are

Janice

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I would consider any country that treats woman as second class citizens as 'backwards'.

How do we decide which direction is backward and which direction is forward?

Maybe treating women like chattle and not giving them any rights is actually good for the long-term health of a society and we in the West are going backwards to a dark time when women had rights.

Maybe taking their rights away is actually the way forward and we deluded Westerners don't realize it.

Hmmm, hadn't pegged you as a relativist.....

I'm not. I'm not suggesting that something can be both backward and forward depending on where you stand. I'm suggesting that there is a backward and there is a forward but we may not realize which is which.

Come on, pick a side!

NO!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How about a country with crappy weather and horrible food. ie... the UK. Would that be backwards?

Socially?

For my money the specific area I live in NJ right now, is the worst place I've ever had the misfortune to live. I find the people badly educated, rude and downright unpleasant. Any place where a person can throw trash out of a moving car when they get off the freeway and not get a ticket is a stinker IMO.

When our lease is up we're moving further west - lot of nice towns further inland.

[Girona40 0]

As I said, these judgments are ultimately subjective (based on the views of the individual as a result of their social background and upbringing).

Simple example - someone who is brought up good table manners would likely find it rude and 'backward' if someone were to pick their nose at the table, burp or eat with their hands.

No, sorry this is not true. I was brought up to use a knife and fork, but have friends whose cultures find it acceptable to use their hands. My ex-husband's country considered it polite to burp after dinner. However, I can't see any country thinking it's nice to pick your nose at the table! lol

I was taught to consider cultural differences before judging anyone. I would certainly not consider people backward, or from a backward country, for showing these differences.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

When our lease is up we're moving further west - lot of nice towns further inland.

Good call. Head towards Parsippany. Much nicer out there.

[Girona40 0]

However you look it, there's no way anyone coming from the US or other developed country somewhere relatively stable country, would consider a country where it is legal (for example) to stone a woman to death as anything less than backward.

How about looking at:-

Putting someone to death by electric chair, gas or lethal injection.

Having citizens that cannot afford healthcare or dental treatment.

Child Sex Trafficking.

People sleeping on the streets unable to get work or afford homes.

These all apply to the US. It's all a matter of perspective.

How about a country with crappy weather and horrible food. ie... the UK. Would that be backwards?

I guess this depends on your definition of "crappy" and "horrible". Personally, I find weather in the 100's and extremely humid, far less desirable than mild, sunny, hot, weather - which I have experienced in South West England.

I would also consider a diet high in fat, high in sugar, high in artificial ingredients, grown in inhumane conditions, etc. far more "horrible" than the diet many people in the UK eat.

Again, all a matter of perspective!

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

How about a country with crappy weather and horrible food. ie... the UK. Would that be backwards?

Socially?

For my money the specific area I live in NJ right now, is the worst place I've ever had the misfortune to live. I find the people badly educated, rude and downright unpleasant. Any place where a person can throw trash out of a moving car when they get off the freeway and not get a ticket is a stinker IMO.

When our lease is up we're moving further west - lot of nice towns further inland.

I agree. Try Pennsylvania.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Damn, ya'll are taking this way too seriously

England sucks. The soccer team, that is. And that ain't relative. Bwahahaha.

For my money the specific area I live in NJ right now, is the worst place I've ever had the misfortune to live. I find the people badly educated, rude and downright unpleasant. Any place where a person can throw trash out of a moving car when they get off the freeway and not get a ticket is a stinker IMO.

When our lease is up we're moving further west - lot of nice towns further inland.

I agree. Try Pennsylvania.

The boonies suck.