Napolitano's Canada terror claims border on insane

[alienlovechild 75]

Can someone please tell us how U. S. Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano got her job? She appears to be about as knowledgeable about border issues as a late-night radio call-in yahoo.

In an interview broadcast Monday on the CBC, Ms. Napolitano attempted to justify her call for stricter border security on the premise that "suspected or known terrorists" have entered the U. S. across the Canadian border, including the perpetrators of the 9/11 attack.

All the 9/11 terrorists, of course, entered the United States directly from overseas. The notion that some arrived via Canada is a myth that briefly popped up in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, and was then quickly debunked.

Informed of her error, Ms. Napolitano blustered: "I can't talk to that. I can talk about the future. And here's the future. The future is we have borders."

Just what does that mean, exactly?

http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/s...html?id=1520295

[The_Dude 1,142]

You're a bit late. This is the third time this has been posted.

[peejay 327]

You're a bit late. This is the third time this has been posted.

Good! The more people that get to see and realize what an incompetent fool she is, the better. 99% of the problem is at the Mexican border, but heaven forbid any liberal to acknowledge it or to do anything about it when there are certain azzes to kiss.

[rclouse 0]

So since she was mistaken about the 9/11 terrorists entering via Canada means her efforts to secure that border are meritless?

"U.S. Customs inspectors arrested the would-be bomber, an Algerian named Ahmed Ressam, at the Canadian border with a car load of explosives. He was convicted and cooperated with investigators, describing the Algerian as an Al Qaeda chief who oversaw recruiting in Europe and training at a camp in Afghanistan."

From here.

You lost the election, fair and square. GET OVER IT.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

[alienlovechild 75]

You lost the election, fair and square. GET OVER IT.

Only a partisan moron would throw a meaningless phrase like that regardless of the issue. Maybe if the primary campaign issue was border security but that's way down on Obama's to-do list.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Translation: Napolitano is mad because a first-time TN-1 entrant probably can implement a better policy than she.

[peejay 327]

Translation: Napolitano is mad because a first-time TN-1 entrant probably can implement a better policy than she.

She is just following the general party line that she herself buys into. Just look at her record as AZ governor.

[justashooter 430]

post 911 restrictions have made it more difficult for muzzie terrorists to enter the US than to enter canada. some terrorists continue to temporarily enter US that would not normally be allowed, by hopping thru canada on the way over. some even go to the trouble of getting canadian citizenship, because it is easier for a canadian to temporarily enter or immigrate to US than a mena or asiatic. chinese are doing it, too, but for personal economic gain, rather than terroristic purposes.

the answer? all borders should be tight.

[peejay 327]

You lost the election, fair and square. GET OVER IT.

That is a rather asinine statement considering that I'm not running for any office nor am I registered to any party nor do I donate any money to either the DNC or the RNC. I do support individuals that reflect my beliefs and/or principles.

That being said...as a US citizen I can and will continue to comment on policies and agendas formulated by my government which I agree or disagree with.

[Krikit 1,164]

post 911 restrictions have made it more difficult for muzzie terrorists to enter the US than to enter canada. some terrorists continue to temporarily enter US that would not normally be allowed, by hopping thru canada on the way over.

Evidentiary proof for both statements, please. And if it "would not normally be allowed", how would "hopping thru Canada" change that?

some even go to the trouble of getting canadian citizenship, because it is easier for a canadian to temporarily enter or immigrate to US than a mena or asiatic. chinese are doing it, too, but for personal economic gain, rather than terroristic purposes.

The CBP Officers are bright enough to notice place of birth on any passport. If there is cause for concern they will detain the visitor.

[justashooter 430]

post 911 restrictions have made it more difficult for muzzie terrorists to enter the US than to enter canada. some terrorists continue to temporarily enter US that would not normally be allowed, by hopping thru canada on the way over.

Evidentiary proof for both statements, please. And if it "would not normally be allowed", how would "hopping thru Canada" change that?

some even go to the trouble of getting canadian citizenship, because it is easier for a canadian to temporarily enter or immigrate to US than a mena or asiatic. chinese are doing it, too, but for personal economic gain, rather than terroristic purposes.

The CBP Officers are bright enough to notice place of birth on any passport. If there is cause for concern they will detain the visitor.

the canada hop around is discussed in The 911 Report, which i recently read. the ongoing danger of a porous northern border is acknowledged in the report, and has not been addressed since it's publishing. not all persons coming into US from canada go thru CBP. i personally know of roads between canada and vermont (US) that are 4wd accessible, having seen them while visiting a friend who owns property in the northern part of the state. i am sure there are others.

as for legal entry, well, there are few visas other than family based available for immigration from many countries such as china. if a chinese becomes a canadian, though, they are viewed as canadians for immigration purposes. it only takes 3 years for a chinese to become a canadian, and viola, no problem immigrating to the US. works for other countries, too.

Edited April 23, 2009 by justashooter

[Krikit 1,164]

as for legal entry, well, there are few visas other than family based available for immigration from many countries such as china. if a chinese becomes a canadian, though, they are viewed as canadians for immigration purposes. it only takes 3 years for a chinese to become a canadian, and viola, no problem immigrating to the US. works for other countries, too.

Naturalized Canadians are still required to provide their birth records and historical/current passport information, as well as the background information on their parents, not to mention the requirement for police reports from all places lived. I cannot see how becoming a Canadian citizen systematically renders them with "no problem immigrating to the US". If anything, it leaves naturalized citizens open to additional scrutiny.

[justashooter 430]

as for legal entry, well, there are few visas other than family based available for immigration from many countries such as china. if a chinese becomes a canadian, though, they are viewed as canadians for immigration purposes. it only takes 3 years for a chinese to become a canadian, and viola, no problem immigrating to the US. works for other countries, too.

Naturalized Canadians are still required to provide their birth records and historical/current passport information, as well as the background information on their parents, not to mention the requirement for police reports from all places lived. I cannot see how becoming a Canadian citizen systematically renders them with "no problem immigrating to the US". If anything, it leaves naturalized citizens open to additional scrutiny.

people from some countries cannot get anything other than a family based visa or an investment based (million dollar) visa. china, case in point. people from some other countries have a very long wait , as the backlog of applicants exceeds the number of visas available.

becoming a canadian is an end run on that. they are no longer chinese (or whatever), and are treated like any other canadian when applying to immigrate to the US. a certain number of canadians get to immigrate to America every year, just by asking. chinese don't have that option. similar situation in many other countries. for example, it's easier for a mexican to immigrate to canada and then to US, than it is to immigrate straight to US.

this is why you see so many pakis and indians with triple citizenship (paki/canadian/USA, for example).

[Krikit 1,164]

as for legal entry, well, there are few visas other than family based available for immigration from many countries such as china. if a chinese becomes a canadian, though, they are viewed as canadians for immigration purposes. it only takes 3 years for a chinese to become a canadian, and viola, no problem immigrating to the US. works for other countries, too.

Naturalized Canadians are still required to provide their birth records and historical/current passport information, as well as the background information on their parents, not to mention the requirement for police reports from all places lived. I cannot see how becoming a Canadian citizen systematically renders them with "no problem immigrating to the US". If anything, it leaves naturalized citizens open to additional scrutiny.

people from some countries cannot get anything other than a family based visa or an investment based (million dollar) visa. china, case in point. people from some other countries have a very long wait , as the backlog of applicants exceeds the number of visas available.

becoming a canadian is an end run on that. they are no longer chinese (or whatever), and are treated like any other canadian when applying to immigrate to the US. a certain number of canadians get to immigrate to America every year, just by asking. chinese don't have that option. similar situation in many other countries. for example, it's easier for a mexican to immigrate to canada and then to US, than it is to immigrate straight to US.

Again, I reiterate.....

Naturalized Canadians are still required to provide their birth records and historical/current passport information, as well as the background information on their parents, not to mention the requirement for police reports from all places lived. I cannot see how becoming a Canadian citizen systematically renders them with "no problem immigrating to the US". If anything, it leaves naturalized citizens open to additional scrutiny.

this is why you see so many pakis and indians with triple citizenship (paki/canadian/USA, for example).

"Pakis"?

How is it "easier" for other nationalities to immigrate to Canada? And how do "a certain number of Canadians get to immigrate to America every year just by asking"? There is a process to follow in all given routes. You can't just "ask" and they will let you immigrate.