Miss California loses Miss USA...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I agree with that. This schmuck Perez was being an #######. But I don't agree with the premise that this is an issue of political correctness, because it goes both ways - if the contestant should be allowed to be honest, the judge should be able to judge her answer. The criteria over how the judges rank these girls is irrelevant. As if a contest that judges beauty is politcally correct in of itself. The whole thing is a spectacle of NPC.

She was penalized for expressing a politically unacceptable viewpoint, which is the essense of PC.

Yes, but in the context of a contest for which she is judged by those answers. To take the position that the pageant shouldn't be allowed to ask politically charged questions or that they shouldn't be able to judge the answers is also being PC. Do you see what I mean?

so .. she was a victim of discrimination. her answer was not PC. Hope she sues and wins big.

Dude, they judge women on their "inner" and "outer" beauty. Of course she was discriminated against.

her beauty was based on her beliefs. Inner/outer had nothing to do with this...

Of course it does. How else are the judges going to decide who wins?

You can't blame the Right Wingers for making this into a political discussion...afterall, they were trying to vote into office a different beauty queen.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Ahoy! a bat ####### enter!

[natty bumppo 297]

I agree with that. This schmuck Perez was being an #######. But I don't agree with the premise that this is an issue of political correctness, because it goes both ways - if the contestant should be allowed to be honest, the judge should be able to judge her answer. The criteria over how the judges rank these girls is irrelevant. As if a contest that judges beauty is politcally correct in of itself. The whole thing is a spectacle of NPC.

She was penalized for expressing a politically unacceptable viewpoint, which is the essense of PC.

Yes, but in the context of a contest for which she is judged by those answers. To take the position that the pageant shouldn't be allowed to ask politically charged questions or that they shouldn't be able to judge the answers is also being PC. Do you see what I mean?

so .. she was a victim of discrimination. her answer was not PC. Hope she sues and wins big.

Dude, they judge women on their "inner" and "outer" beauty. Of course she was discriminated against.

her beauty was based on her beliefs. Inner/outer had nothing to do with this...

Of course it does. How else are the judges going to decide who wins?

guess you need to re-read ... re-listen to a judges comments ...

beliefs??? ... wow imagine she could also have been jewish ... catholic .... muslim ... jw .... mormon or any other belief other that the judges.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Left wing bloggers as judges! Theres no story, just more BS!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I agree with that. This schmuck Perez was being an #######. But I don't agree with the premise that this is an issue of political correctness, because it goes both ways - if the contestant should be allowed to be honest, the judge should be able to judge her answer. The criteria over how the judges rank these girls is irrelevant. As if a contest that judges beauty is politcally correct in of itself. The whole thing is a spectacle of NPC.

She was penalized for expressing a politically unacceptable viewpoint, which is the essense of PC.

Yes, but in the context of a contest for which she is judged by those answers. To take the position that the pageant shouldn't be allowed to ask politically charged questions or that they shouldn't be able to judge the answers is also being PC. Do you see what I mean?

so .. she was a victim of discrimination. her answer was not PC. Hope she sues and wins big.

Dude, they judge women on their "inner" and "outer" beauty. Of course she was discriminated against.

her beauty was based on her beliefs. Inner/outer had nothing to do with this...

Of course it does. How else are the judges going to decide who wins?

guess you need to re-read ... re-listen to a judges comments ...

beliefs??? ... wow imagine she could also have been jewish ... catholic .... muslim ... jw .... mormon or any other belief other that the judges.

No that won't help. Its a politically incorrect competition - that attempts to judge a group of women based on blatantly subjective concepts of "beauty".

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Beauty pageants qualified this fine lady to be a VP candidate....doncha know.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Beauty pageants qualified this fine lady to be a VP candidate....doncha know.

You betcha.

[natty bumppo 297]

I agree with that. This schmuck Perez was being an #######. But I don't agree with the premise that this is an issue of political correctness, because it goes both ways - if the contestant should be allowed to be honest, the judge should be able to judge her answer. The criteria over how the judges rank these girls is irrelevant. As if a contest that judges beauty is politcally correct in of itself. The whole thing is a spectacle of NPC.

She was penalized for expressing a politically unacceptable viewpoint, which is the essense of PC.

Yes, but in the context of a contest for which she is judged by those answers. To take the position that the pageant shouldn't be allowed to ask politically charged questions or that they shouldn't be able to judge the answers is also being PC. Do you see what I mean?

so .. she was a victim of discrimination. her answer was not PC. Hope she sues and wins big.

Dude, they judge women on their "inner" and "outer" beauty. Of course she was discriminated against.

her beauty was based on her beliefs. Inner/outer had nothing to do with this...

Of course it does. How else are the judges going to decide who wins?

guess you need to re-read ... re-listen to a judges comments ...

beliefs??? ... wow imagine she could also have been jewish ... catholic .... muslim ... jw .... mormon or any other belief other that the judges.

No that won't help. Its a politically incorrect competition - that attempts to judge a group of women based on blatantly subjective concepts of "beauty".

so ... having a belief is not beauty?

wonder what kind of person pays attention to this stuff?

*goes to look-up quantity of posts by individuals in this thread ... to determine who really really cares about this stuff*

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I just realized something...the Right puts in high regard, beauty pageants, but considers higher education, elitism. What a world view to have.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I agree with that. This schmuck Perez was being an #######. But I don't agree with the premise that this is an issue of political correctness, because it goes both ways - if the contestant should be allowed to be honest, the judge should be able to judge her answer. The criteria over how the judges rank these girls is irrelevant. As if a contest that judges beauty is politcally correct in of itself. The whole thing is a spectacle of NPC.

She was penalized for expressing a politically unacceptable viewpoint, which is the essense of PC.

Yes, but in the context of a contest for which she is judged by those answers. To take the position that the pageant shouldn't be allowed to ask politically charged questions or that they shouldn't be able to judge the answers is also being PC. Do you see what I mean?

so .. she was a victim of discrimination. her answer was not PC. Hope she sues and wins big.

Dude, they judge women on their "inner" and "outer" beauty. Of course she was discriminated against.

her beauty was based on her beliefs. Inner/outer had nothing to do with this...

Of course it does. How else are the judges going to decide who wins?

guess you need to re-read ... re-listen to a judges comments ...

beliefs??? ... wow imagine she could also have been jewish ... catholic .... muslim ... jw .... mormon or any other belief other that the judges.

No that won't help. Its a politically incorrect competition - that attempts to judge a group of women based on blatantly subjective concepts of "beauty".

so ... having a belief is not beauty?

wonder what kind of person pays attention to this stuff?

*goes to look-up quantity of posts by individuals in this thread ... to determine who really really cares about this stuff*

Its a sexist competition that objectifies women.

Quite how a serious political discussion can be generated by an upset in the result is what I find interesting. As I said - it says a lot of about the quality of mainstream political dialogs in this country.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Beauty pageants qualified this fine lady to be a VP candidate....doncha know.

Yep and this is what we got!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I just realized something...the Right puts in high regard, beauty pageants, but considers higher education, elitism. What a world view to have.

The only reason this pageant thing is in the news is because there's a nationalist twist to the story - about how dastardly liberalism has hijacked an American tradition.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Its a sexist competition that objectifies women.

Quite how a serious political discussion can be generated by an upset in the result is what I find interesting. As I said - it says a lot of about the quality of mainstream political dialogs in this country.

[natty bumppo 297]

She was penalized for expressing a politically unacceptable viewpoint, which is the essense of PC.

Yes, but in the context of a contest for which she is judged by those answers. To take the position that the pageant shouldn't be allowed to ask politically charged questions or that they shouldn't be able to judge the answers is also being PC. Do you see what I mean?

so .. she was a victim of discrimination. her answer was not PC. Hope she sues and wins big.

Dude, they judge women on their "inner" and "outer" beauty. Of course she was discriminated against.

her beauty was based on her beliefs. Inner/outer had nothing to do with this...

Of course it does. How else are the judges going to decide who wins?

guess you need to re-read ... re-listen to a judges comments ...

beliefs??? ... wow imagine she could also have been jewish ... catholic .... muslim ... jw .... mormon or any other belief other that the judges.

No that won't help. Its a politically incorrect competition - that attempts to judge a group of women based on blatantly subjective concepts of "beauty".

so ... having a belief is not beauty?

wonder what kind of person pays attention to this stuff?

*goes to look-up quantity of posts by individuals in this thread ... to determine who really really cares about this stuff*

Its a sexist competition that objectifies women.

Quite how a serious political discussion can be generated by an upset in the result is what I find interesting. As I said - it says a lot of about the quality of mainstream political dialogs in this country.

you're the leader of posts into this thread .. so far as I've counted ...

this thread must be cutting rather close to a heart for you to post so much ... I wonder ... did you lose a beauty contest as a child?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

you're the leader of posts into this thread .. so far as I've counted ...

this thread must be cutting rather close to a heart for you to post so much ... I wonder ... did you lose a beauty contest as a child?

I'm sure you have.

As for the rest - lamebait. And you are - once again - a loser.