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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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My fiance and I met online in september of 08. I met her in thailand for 3 weeks in Nov of 08. We filled for our fiances visa feb 25th (NOA1). We had many pictures documenting this and plane tickets.

We talk on the phone/webcam/msn about 5 hours a day. I have about 40 hours of talked time on my skype account and I support her every month by paying her bills, which we have logs for that all too, i.e bank xfers and whatever.

We have gone over our pasts quite abit. My past is very complex, living in 8 U.S. states and 4 countries, I dont even really know the right order of everything. We are 2 years apart in age.

I have plans to visit her in the end of july for 2 weeks to meet her family and do the whole dowry thing.

Do you guys see any faults in this plan?

What sprung this question was reading the forums for Thailand's region and seeing all the rejections, almost all were in Vietnam but do you guys see in outstanding flaws?

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They require a dowry for Thailand?

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They require a dowry for Thailand?

Well family does. You get it back after wedding anyways.

Interesting - i didn't know that - would paying her bills count toward that?

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Thailand
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I second the suggestion to avoid showing your financial support; it could be misunderstood. I certainly encourage at least one more visit prior to your fiancée coming to America. Be sure the evidence is not just one-sided: it should show communication from both directions. Having phone bills from your fiancée showing that she calls you too, as well as having her send you emails and regular cards/letters in the mail is supporting evdience of a bona fide relationship. The more evidence you can collect, the better.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Thailand
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Paying her bills would not count, nor would buying her parents gifts, as I have done both already. The dowry is called 'sin-sot' in Thai. The parents want cash and gold at the very least. The amount depends on the girl's socio-economic class, as well as the 'farang' (foreigner) factor: Generally Thai view westerners as very wealthy, so they expect more from them.

A typical asking price might be 10 Baht in gold (currently around $1,400 worth of gold), as well as 100,000-200,000 Baht ($2,800-5,600) in cash. Among the social elite in Thailand, gifts of BMW's, townhouses, etc. is not uncommon. Generally if a girl has already been married or has children, the man is not expected to pay anything, though as cdrrck24 mentioned, the family usually returns some if not all of it anyway.

Edit: sin-sot is generally negotiated by the parents or close relatives of the to-be groom with the bride's parents. This is another reason why foreigners pay more, as they may find it difficult to negotiate, and often leave it up to their fiancée's to help.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: India
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yeah i also think that you shouldnt show them that you are finacially supporting thing , it can be misunderstood easily, everything else looks good in your case

Known each other since we were kids ! =]

08/24/08-Engaged

01/10/2009- Sent

01/12/2009-NOA1

03/17/09- NOA2

03/25/09- NVC recieved

3/26/09- Forwarded to New Delhi Embassy

4/6/09- Packet 3 sent

4/8/09- Sent packet 3 to embassy

4/13/09-Embassy Sent packet 4

4/20/09- Recieved packet 4

4/25/09- Medical - passed =]

5/04-09- Gave paperwork to VFS

5/14/09- Intreview

Approved!!!!!!!!!!

5/26/09- POE at SFO

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Canada
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Agreed mentioning that you pay for her living expenses can look sketchy

I-751 file: 11/07/11

NOA1 date: 11/10/11

Biometrics: 11/30/11

Approval: 08/17/12

Hold what you got and maintain.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Fascinating about the dowry. Make at least one more visit, and definitely be on the consular premises (at minimum) while she is in her visa interview. Being there can pay off in many ways.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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My fiance and I met online in september of 08. I met her in thailand for 3 weeks in Nov of 08. We filled for our fiances visa feb 25th (NOA1). We had many pictures documenting this and plane tickets.

We talk on the phone/webcam/msn about 5 hours a day. I have about 40 hours of talked time on my skype account and I support her every month by paying her bills, which we have logs for that all too, i.e bank xfers and whatever.

We have gone over our pasts quite abit. My past is very complex, living in 8 U.S. states and 4 countries, I dont even really know the right order of everything. We are 2 years apart in age.

I have plans to visit her in the end of july for 2 weeks to meet her family and do the whole dowry thing.

Do you guys see any faults in this plan?

Faults in the plan? I mean you say you spent 3 weeks together. I'm not judging one way or another, but does that count as something - in your mind - that might be a problem one day considering you're talking about spending the rest of your lives together? What's the rush?

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