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Will Oregon Republicans denounce those who call for violent overthrow of the United States?

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Looking for more boogy men Steve? Still equating Islamic terrorists with gun toting consevatives? There is a whole history of radical violent organizations on the left that you would not associate with the mainstream progressive movement, would you? This is a silly, and non-productive track you have taken.

Islamic terrorism doesn't exist in his world, unless it's used as a comparison to gun toting consevatives. Funny. Ain't it?

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

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Look at the historical tax rates for the top 2 percent income earners over the last century. If you don't like our tax rates, perhaps try going back to the UK.

Perhaps, if the UK tax rates are any better at this point.

Though I'm not sure I like your tone of voice. "Your tax rates?" How about "my tax rates"? I live here too, you know.

Sure but consider your alternatives. Life is full of choices.

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Looking for more boogy men Steve? Still equating Islamic terrorists with gun toting consevatives? There is a whole history of radical violent organizations on the left that you would not associate with the mainstream progressive movement, would you? This is a silly, and non-productive track you have taken.

Nice misrepresentation of what I've saying. Here I'll put in quote marks so you can copy and paste for future reference.

"Right Wing Extremists who are calling for the violent overthrow of our government are no less extreme than Radical Islamists calling for the downfall of America."

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To say there aren't Right Wing Extremists with dangerous ideas out there drumming up support is being in denial. Even the DHS has acknowledged them as a threat to national security.

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Look at the historical tax rates for the top 2 percent income earners over the last century. If you don't like our tax rates, perhaps try going back to the UK.

Perhaps, if the UK tax rates are any better at this point.

Though I'm not sure I like your tone of voice. "Your tax rates?" How about "my tax rates"? I live here too, you know.

Sure but consider your alternatives. Life is full of choices.

I will if things get really bad. I'm understandably upset because America was the last bastion

of true capitalism left in the world and now it's all but gone.

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Looking for more boogy men Steve? Still equating Islamic terrorists with gun toting consevatives? There is a whole history of radical violent organizations on the left that you would not associate with the mainstream progressive movement, would you? This is a silly, and non-productive track you have taken.

Nice misrepresentation of what I've saying. Here I'll put in quote marks so you can copy and paste for future reference.

"Right Wing Extremists who are calling for the violent overthrow of our government are no less extreme than Radical Islamists calling for the downfall of America."

....

To say there aren't Right Wing Extremists with dangerous ideas out there drumming up support is being in denial. Even the DHS has acknowledged them as a threat to national security.

Where are they? I think they are nightmares that keep you up at night. Leave a light on, Stephen.

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Looking for more boogy men Steve? Still equating Islamic terrorists with gun toting consevatives? There is a whole history of radical violent organizations on the left that you would not associate with the mainstream progressive movement, would you? This is a silly, and non-productive track you have taken.

Nice misrepresentation of what I've saying. Here I'll put in quote marks so you can copy and paste for future reference.

"Right Wing Extremists who are calling for the violent overthrow of our government are no less extreme than Radical Islamists calling for the downfall of America."

....

To say there aren't Right Wing Extremists with dangerous ideas out there drumming up support is being in denial. Even the DHS has acknowledged them as a threat to national security.

Where are they? I think they are nightmares that keep you up at night. Leave a light on, Stephen.

Bill, what part of this doesn't make sense to you or you don't agree with...

The term extremist is often used with reference to those who use or advocate violence against the will of society at large, but it is also used by some to describe those who advocate or use violence to enforce the will of the social body, such as a government or majority constituency. Those described as extremist would in general not accept that what they practice or advocate constitutes violence and would instead speak in terms of acts of resistance"or militant action or the use of force. The word violence cannot be regarded as value-neutral. Ideology and methodology often become inextricably linked under the single term extremism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremist

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This isn't something that will spontaneously happen Steve - it doesn't work that way.

Where's the civil unrest?

True. The question I'm asking those who are sympathetic to such talk, if they would also be sympathetic if such talk were coming from some American Islamic groups? Would they consider them just being patriotic (in the revolutionary sense), or enemies to America itself?

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Looking for more boogy men Steve? Still equating Islamic terrorists with gun toting consevatives? There is a whole history of radical violent organizations on the left that you would not associate with the mainstream progressive movement, would you? This is a silly, and non-productive track you have taken.

Nice misrepresentation of what I've saying. Here I'll put in quote marks so you can copy and paste for future reference.

"Right Wing Extremists who are calling for the violent overthrow of our government are no less extreme than Radical Islamists calling for the downfall of America."

....

To say there aren't Right Wing Extremists with dangerous ideas out there drumming up support is being in denial. Even the DHS has acknowledged them as a threat to national security.

Where are they? I think they are nightmares that keep you up at night. Leave a light on, Stephen.

Bill, what part of this doesn't make sense to you or you don't agree with...

The term extremist is often used with reference to those who use or advocate violence against the will of society at large, but it is also used by some to describe those who advocate or use violence to enforce the will of the social body, such as a government or majority constituency. Those described as extremist would in general not accept that what they practice or advocate constitutes violence and would instead speak in terms of acts of resistance"or militant action or the use of force. The word violence cannot be regarded as value-neutral. Ideology and methodology often become inextricably linked under the single term extremism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremist

I helped a lot of folks from another war and another generation feel better about themselves after what the left did to them. Some of those activists are still sitting in office. I don't want to see the same thing happen to another generation. You continue to pursue this issue, and that is where it is going to lead.

 

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