Fox News’ Promotion Of Tea Parties Shatters Their Credibility

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I just think it's funny that people think ANY news source is unbiased.. it's people.. people who have opinions and biases and blind spots.. watch all the news coverages you can and SOMEWHERE in the middle is the actual truth IMO.

The problem isn't bias. It's when news organizations like Fox News use their platform as a propaganda machine and the most troubling part to me is that many people who watch Fox News fail to see the difference. There is a difference between reporting news and propaganda. For example, when ABC Morning News program dedicates a 10 minute segment on an upcoming Disney film, that is propaganda. Why? Because Disney is the parent company of ABC. Now if they dedicated 10 minutes of their programming on other films not made by Disney, then it's less likely to be self promotion, but still skeptical. So when the news anchors on Fox News are supposedly reporting the news of this tea party and adding comments like, "It is my duty as a patriot, to bring attention to this...," that is blatant propaganda. We all should be concerned when major news organizations are shoveling us propaganda and pretending it as if it is news. And even more concerned when so many of the masses consume it without even knowing the difference. Scary sh!t, IMO.

propaganda or advertisement?

I agree that's not propaganda.

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Dobbs is a nutjob.

[chri'stina 190]

Dobbs is a nutjob.

And he's not on Fox.

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Dobbs is a nutjob.

And he's not on Fox.

I don't think FNC can handle another O'Reilly sized ego.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Dobbs is a nutjob.

And he's not on Fox.

He might as well be. The talking head segment seems to be a model that all of the corporate networks use as a centerpiece of their news programming.

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Dobbs is a nutjob.

And he's not on Fox.

He might as well be. The talking head segment seems to be a model that all of the corporate networks use as a centerpiece of their news programming.

I have seen other opinion shows on CNN too. Other channels too. So It's not just Fox. I don't really think Fox is fair and balanced, they should change their slogan to the conservative view or something since that's what it mostly is. And I also don't think CNN or MSNBC deserves the title of fair and balanced either.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Dobbs is a nutjob.

And he's not on Fox.

He might as well be. The talking head segment seems to be a model that all of the corporate networks use as a centerpiece of their news programming.

I have seen other opinion shows on CNN too. Other channels too. So It's not just Fox. I don't really think Fox is fair and balanced, they should change their slogan to the conservative view or something since that's what it mostly is. And I also don't think CNN or MSNBC deserves the title of fair and balanced either.

None of them do - they all follow the same basic format.

Calling the show fair and balanced (or whatever) creates the illusion that the people who watch it aren't biased.

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I personally feel most of the news has a bias. I watch CNN mostly now and I do feel they are biased towards loving Obama. So I don't really care if Fox news is the opposite. Who cares? Since none of the major news channels are being objective, they all throw in their little opinions or twists on everything. I don't care that they are covering the tea parties. It's true, other certain protests get better coverage on the other channels. No one has to watch Fox if they don't want to. I get annoyed by some of the ppl on Fox but I also get annoyed at the left wing bias I see in other channel's personalities too.

Stina, there's a difference between news bias and propaganda. Bias comes from the journalist's own viewpoint, which they can and should first be constantly aware of it with the choice of words they use, and to try and state the news with neutrality, whereas propaganda is selling or promoting a product or idea. I think the confusion comes when there is journalistic opinion as in editorial news - then the journalist is of course promoting his or her own ideas, but already with the disclaimer that they are expression their own personal opinion.

When a regular news broadcaster is giving the news about the President's new Air Force One jet, and he or she says, "A blatant misuse of taxes by Obama, the new Air Force One jet took its maiden flight today." Was that commentary or reporting the news? Do you see the difference? The news anchor didn't make a disclaimer first, "This is only my opinion, but..." That's my beef with the Fox News Channel. There is no clear cut line between report the news and opinion, which then makes it propagandist in nature.

I see that all the time in CNN's Lou Dobbs show. Any show that has tons of opinion annoys me, even if I might agree with some of the opinions. Sujeet wants to watch them sometimes he knows I'll always say, "I don't want to hear your opinions, just tell me the news".

All the channels have too much commentary and too much opinion.

Yep. I agree with Sujeet.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Dobbs is a nutjob.

Dobbs isn't the nutjob, that is Glenn Beck. I find Dobbs to be quite rational, except until the subject of anyone Brown comes up. Then he becomes a blathering idiot, akin to some people on these boards about how illegal mexicans are ruining the world and killing babies.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Ratings:

FOX RATINGS SURGE ON PROTEST COVERAGE

8-11 PM ET

FOXNEWS 3,390,000

MSNBC 1,210,000

CNN 1,070,000

CNN HEADLINE 909,000

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,980,000

FOXNEWS HANNITY 3,239,000

FOXNEWS GRETA 2,947,000

FOXNEWS BECK 2,740,000

FOXNEWS BAIER 2,401,000

FOXNEWS SHEP 2,185,000

COMEDY DAILY SHOW 1,777,000

MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,499,000

COMEDY COLBERT 1,446,000

CNNHN GRACE 1,336,000

CNN KING 1,292,000

MSNBC MADDOW 1,149,000

CNN COOPER 1,021,000

Money talks! B.S. walks!

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Now that they have become not just biased, but sycophantic advocates for the federal government, they have become dangerous, and must be exposed and stopped.

Thats the point.

Um. You mean like the conservative sycophant "news" of Fox have always been in regards to Bush I or II?

I say the conservatives have whined about the "whining liberals" for so long, now they can't recognize their own whining is hypocritical.

Here's a read: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...p;#entry2846629

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Ratings:

FOX RATINGS SURGE ON PROTEST COVERAGE

8-11 PM ET

FOXNEWS 3,390,000

MSNBC 1,210,000

CNN 1,070,000

CNN HEADLINE 909,000

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,980,000

FOXNEWS HANNITY 3,239,000

FOXNEWS GRETA 2,947,000

FOXNEWS BECK 2,740,000

FOXNEWS BAIER 2,401,000

FOXNEWS SHEP 2,185,000

COMEDY DAILY SHOW 1,777,000

MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,499,000

COMEDY COLBERT 1,446,000

CNNHN GRACE 1,336,000

CNN KING 1,292,000

MSNBC MADDOW 1,149,000

CNN COOPER 1,021,000

Money talks! B.S. walks!

Then by that logic, Obama's popularity isn't due to people acting like sheep after all? Interesting double standard.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Ratings:

FOX RATINGS SURGE ON PROTEST COVERAGE

8-11 PM ET

FOXNEWS 3,390,000

MSNBC 1,210,000

CNN 1,070,000

CNN HEADLINE 909,000

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,980,000

FOXNEWS HANNITY 3,239,000

FOXNEWS GRETA 2,947,000

FOXNEWS BECK 2,740,000

FOXNEWS BAIER 2,401,000

FOXNEWS SHEP 2,185,000

COMEDY DAILY SHOW 1,777,000

MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,499,000

COMEDY COLBERT 1,446,000

CNNHN GRACE 1,336,000

CNN KING 1,292,000

MSNBC MADDOW 1,149,000

CNN COOPER 1,021,000

Money talks! B.S. walks!

Then by that logic, Obama's popularity isn't due to people acting like sheep after all? Interesting double standard.

Sheep are sheep. I have a lot of old stuff that still works fine, and I don't go chasing the latest trend. But, advertisers like sheep, because they buy what everyone else is buying, and that is the bottom line, ain't it? Market share sets the rate advertisers pay for airtime, and right now, FOX is making what the other networks make combined.

Edited April 17, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Audience figures don't speak to the quality or comprehensiveness of the material, just as ticket sales aren't necesarily an indication of a "good" film.

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Ratings:

FOX RATINGS SURGE ON PROTEST COVERAGE

8-11 PM ET

FOXNEWS 3,390,000

MSNBC 1,210,000

CNN 1,070,000

CNN HEADLINE 909,000

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,980,000

FOXNEWS HANNITY 3,239,000

FOXNEWS GRETA 2,947,000

FOXNEWS BECK 2,740,000

FOXNEWS BAIER 2,401,000

FOXNEWS SHEP 2,185,000

COMEDY DAILY SHOW 1,777,000

MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,499,000

COMEDY COLBERT 1,446,000

CNNHN GRACE 1,336,000

CNN KING 1,292,000

MSNBC MADDOW 1,149,000

CNN COOPER 1,021,000

Money talks! B.S. walks!

Then by that logic, Obama's popularity isn't due to people acting like sheep after all? Interesting double standard.

Sheep are sheep. I have a lot of old stuff that still works fine, and I don't go chasing the latest trend. But, advertisers like sheep, because they buy what everyone else is buying, and that is the bottom line, ain't it? Market share sets the rate advertisers pay for airtime, and right now, FOX is making what the other networks make combined.

I'm confused by your 'money talks, BS walks.' I took that to mean that you believe Fox News ratings reflects their quality of programming, no?