Study: Illegal immigrants having more kids in US

[justashooter 430]

I think it shows what is really going on here....widespread xenophobia.

xenophobia is fear of illegals. we are not afraid of them.

we're just tired of paying to enhance their lifestyle. we're just tired of paying higher taxes so that illegals can get free housing, free food, free medical care, free school, free use of public services, free use of police and fire services, and free jail services when they get caught. we're tired of them pumping out babies and increasing the percentage of society that exists on welfare, and that is a hindrance to the development of our country and it's economy.

we are also tired of them shouting in spanish in public places. we are tired of them pissing and $hitting on the floor in bathrooms of shopping malls. we're tired of them hanging out in places where they don't have any legitimate business (shopping malls while not shopping, for instance). we're tired of them driving without liscenses, insurance, or auto inspections. we're tired of them getting into fights in night clubs. we're tired of them acting as consumers for prostitutes and drug dealers.

we're just tired of them being here.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

we are tired of them pissing and $hitting on the floor in bathrooms of shopping malls.

Wow, I gotta say I don't know who's legal and who isn't (you can't tell by just looking at them ) but there are a lot of furriners where I am (I expect you think most of them would be illegal) and I've never... ever .. seen ####### on the mall bathroom floor. Either you're making this up or something is terribly wrong in pennsyltucky.

we're tired of them hanging out in places where they don't have any legitimate business (shopping malls while not shopping, for instance).

Are you for real? Plenty of Americans hang out in the mall, and not to shop

Edited April 15, 2009 by Randomizer

[NickD 203]

I don't think the US is really having a problem with their birth rate (even to American citizens or LPRs) but I thought I'd share this anyway since someone posted about European countries importing foreigners to live there.

My great-grandfather was Italian and he immigrated to the US in the early 1920s. My grandfather was born in the US in 1934 (therefore, he was born a US citizen and at the time dual citizenship was not allowed). His parents -my great-grandparents- naturalized and became American citizens in the 1940s (AFTER my grandfather was born), my mother was born in the 1950s and I was born in the 1980s. In the early 1990s the US and subsequently Italy began allowing dual citizenship.

In addition to this, the birth rate in Italy is currently 1.(something). This means that only 1 child, on average, is born to every two parents (so the population should be going down). Because of this, Italy has made a loop-hole in their citizenship process. The Italian government says that as long as at the time my grandfather was born, his parents only held Italian citizenship (and not American as well, or not Brazilian as well, or whatever country), then my grandfather was born both American and Italian, therefore my mother was born American and Italian, therefore I was born American and Italian.

I did NOT have to apply for my Italian citizenship, I simply had to prove that I was born Italian. The way they view it, I have been Italian since birth and therefore do not need to apply! I did this by submitting copies of every single birth, marriage, death, divorce certificate since and including my great-grandparents on my mothers side. I also had to include the naturalization certificates of my great-grandfather to prove he naturalized after my grandfather was born. Trust me, this was not as easy as it sounds and I also had to translate all of the documents, so it was quite expensive, but it was worth it in my opinion.

Italy allows anyone to do this and you can go back as MANY GENERATIONS AS YOU CAN PROVE. It doesn't matter if your great great great great grandfather was Italian, if you can prove he was Italian when the next generation was born, you're Italian too.

So now I hold two passports, American and Italian (and with my Italian one I can live and work anywhere in the EU, not just Italy!!!)

So, this is just one solution that some of the European countries have come up with. And if anyone thinks that they might be Italian too, PM me and I can give you more details!

With google earth, have been able to locate the towns my grandfather and grandmother are from, was shocked they are only three miles apart. I have all of their papers, and even found a town with my last name on it. With facebook, finding long lost relatives, cool. Something to think about, but already have a huge family here that I would hate to leave. Decisions. Learning a foreign language was taboo around here, not so sure if I could even learn Italian.

We have slobs here before the illegals that take a ####### on the floor in public places, disgusting, mostly in the state parks and by the Sparta Bike trail, nice to have a motorhome for stuff like that. But what about taxes? Could use that money to take care of my own.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Yes I've seen ####### on the floors in state park bathrooms here as well. Oddly enough, the crowd there appears to be all-American. But hey maybe they're illegals too, from Ireland or something

[almaty 19]

lol..but brother arijit, they do not count..they are white...and being irish, probably drunk....ouch...that hurt

[Marina-Del 10]

With google earth, have been able to locate the towns my grandfather and grandmother are from, was shocked they are only three miles apart. I have all of their papers, and even found a town with my last name on it. With facebook, finding long lost relatives, cool. Something to think about, but already have a huge family here that I would hate to leave. Decisions. Learning a foreign language was taboo around here, not so sure if I could even learn Italian.

We have slobs here before the illegals that take a ####### on the floor in public places, disgusting, mostly in the state parks and by the Sparta Bike trail, nice to have a motorhome for stuff like that. But what about taxes? Could use that money to take care of my own.

You don't have to learn Italian to become an Italian citizen. I don't speak Italian. Yes, I lived in Italy for 6 months and while there I acquired my citizenship, but that was only because I wanted to do it that way. You can do it through the Italian consulate in your area and that's how my brothers did theres and it took about the same amount of time (3 months once we had all the docs ready). And you don't have to live in Italy ever. I originally got my citizenship because I wanted to continue living in London and was tired of getting yearly visas and increasingly hostile remarks from the immigration guys when entering (I lived in London for 3 years in total). While I was living in Italy, me and my fiance decided we didn't want to go back to London and we'd come to Brazil for a while before going to the US...so that was my original reason for getting the passport -so I could live in London. Remember, even if you don't want to move to Italy or the EU, having the passport can still be nice. Your children will automatically become Italian citizens and that means if they ever want to live or study in the EU it will be super easy for them! I didn't want to take that opportunity away from my children!

And as someone else already said, malls are FILLED with full-blooded AMERICAN teenagers, NOT shopping and just hanging out! It's not illegals that do that, it's everyone.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

And as someone else already said, malls are FILLED with full-blooded AMERICAN teenagers, NOT shopping and just hanging out! It's not illegals that do that, it's everyone.

Pulling this out for emphasis

[justashooter 430]

we are tired of them pissing and $hitting on the floor in bathrooms of shopping malls.

Wow, I gotta say I don't know who's legal and who isn't (you can't tell by just looking at them ) but there are a lot of furriners where I am (I expect you think most of them would be illegal) and I've never... ever .. seen ####### on the mall bathroom floor. Either you're making this up or something is terribly wrong in pennsyltucky.

we're tired of them hanging out in places where they don't have any legitimate business (shopping malls while not shopping, for instance).

Are you for real? Plenty of Americans hang out in the mall, and not to shop

with 40-50% of mexicans in America being illegal, if I see 2, 1 of them is bound to be. As for telling a mexican from the next guy, as a spanish speaker I can hear the dialect, and having 2 eyes i can see the mestizo ethnicity, which most mexican illegals are part of.

as for hanging around malls: in penna we have important things to do, so don't sit around malls much. we work jobs, shoot guns, fix cars, build garages and furniture, fish and hunt, and other American kind of stuff. what's wrong with the rest of you people?

seriously, in the last few years I have seen some top flight york area malls degraded in condition as the number of obvious illegals hanging out there has increased. anything on the bus route is fair game, these days. guess i have to dig out the ICE jacket and ball cap and air band radio to make some regular patrols.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

as for hanging around malls: in penna we have important things to do, so don't sit around malls much. we work jobs, shoot guns, fix cars, build garages and furniture, fish and hunt, and other American kind of stuff. what's wrong with the rest of you people?

Cute.

[Marina-Del 10]

with 40-50% of mexicans in America being illegal, if I see 2, 1 of them is bound to be. As for telling a mexican from the next guy, as a spanish speaker I can hear the dialect, and having 2 eyes i can see the mestizo ethnicity, which most mexican illegals are part of.

as for hanging around malls: in penna we have important things to do, so don't sit around malls much. we work jobs, shoot guns, fix cars, build garages and furniture, fish and hunt, and other American kind of stuff. what's wrong with the rest of you people?

seriously, in the last few years I have seen some top flight york area malls degraded in condition as the number of obvious illegals hanging out there has increased. anything on the bus route is fair game, these days. guess i have to dig out the ICE jacket and ball cap and air band radio to make some regular patrols.

So your honestly telling me that the good ol' 13, 14 and 15 year old kids in your neighborhood who haven't gotten their drivers licenses yet spend their weekends baking cookies with their mothers and going fishing with their pops? The kids in my neighborhood (in the US) go to the mall. They walk around and around and around. They meet their friends there, talk to the opposite sex there, flirt, play around, and walk around some more.

I'm so sad I don't live in ol' town America like you.

Edited April 15, 2009 by Marina-Del

[fozzie 41]

Good. With our low birth rate among citizens, we won't have to do what European countries with negative population growth have been doing - importing foreigners who don't really want to be there.

According to danno that because of all the gays

[justashooter 430]

So your honestly telling me that the good ol' 13, 14 and 15 year old kids in your neighborhood who haven't gotten their drivers licenses yet spend their weekends baking cookies with their mothers and going fishing with their pops? The kids in my neighborhood (in the US) go to the mall. They walk around and around and around. They meet their friends there, talk to the opposite sex there, flirt, play around, and walk around some more.

I'm so sad I don't live in ol' town America like you.

in my "neighborhood", hun, the neighbors are cows. the boys grew up hunting with me, and the daughter baked the cookies. i taught the boys how to make furniture and build guns. the daughter i taught how to cook.

[Marina-Del 10]

So your honestly telling me that the good ol' 13, 14 and 15 year old kids in your neighborhood who haven't gotten their drivers licenses yet spend their weekends baking cookies with their mothers and going fishing with their pops? The kids in my neighborhood (in the US) go to the mall. They walk around and around and around. They meet their friends there, talk to the opposite sex there, flirt, play around, and walk around some more.

I'm so sad I don't live in ol' town America like you.

in my "neighborhood", hun, the neighbors are cows. the boys grew up hunting with me, and the daughter baked the cookies. i taught the boys how to make furniture and build guns. the daughter i taught how to cook.

[Marina-Del 10]

in my "neighborhood", hun, the neighbors are cows. the boys grew up hunting with me, and the daughter baked the cookies. i taught the boys how to make furniture and build guns. the daughter i taught how to cook.

Well excuse me if you did not like my choice of the word neighborhood....does "town" or "neck of the woods" or "area" work better for you??

I come from small town Georgia and we have cows at my house. So my "neighbors" are cows as well and the nearest person lives 2 miles away. That's no excuse for living back in the 1950s. It's 2009 and kids go to the mall just like illegal immigrants and normal Americans.

Maybe teenages go to the mall more where I live and less where you live, but that's no excuse for you saying that the ONLY people that walk around malls without buying anything are the illegals.

Ps. I apologize for the above post with no response. I have no idea how that happened and it wont let me edit

[fozzie 41]

in my "neighborhood" neighbourhood, hun, the neighbors neighbours are cows. the boys grew up hunting with me, and the daughter baked the cookies. i taught the boys how to make furniture and build guns. the daughter i taught how to cook.

Well excuse me if you did not like my choice of the word neighborhood neighbourhood....does "town" or "neck of the woods" or "area" work better for you??

I come from small town Georgia and we have cows at my house. So my "neighbors" neighbours are cows as well and the nearest person lives 2 miles away. That's no excuse for living back in the 1950s. It's 2009 and kids go to the mall just like illegal immigrants and normal Americans.

Fixored.