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I asked my husband about this last night. He said that his family is not like this but he has heard of it and seen it. He said if it's for her safety then so be it but if she informs her husband where she is then in his family they have no issues or problems with the women going out. He said some people especially from a certain area and I don't remember where he stated that they are more strict. That the women do not even come in the room where there are male guests or have to ask permission to pass by in the living room. He said it is very common for women to group together at each other's home to visit in his hometown. He said they have to go out to the store and run errands and if they are taking care of what needs to be taken care of in their home and the couple keeps each other informed of their whereabouts everything is ok.

As far as Jill, she's a smart gal. If this is the family norm and she has been there for 3 years she has to make her own decisions. We are all different and until we walk in a person's shoes we sometimes speculate on how we would react but may actually react very differently. A lot of us gals from America would think this is not the way we want to be treated and would show him our independence but she is dealing with it in her own way. Jill, I wish you the best of luck and I do hope that you can get out and enjoy EG a little more while you are there!

Im sorry, I called you Amy in the previous post... but I see now it says Aym.... sorry about that and thank u so much for the sweet wishes :x... oh and I have been all over Alex and Cairo, I have had a great time in the 3 years I have been here.... Im hoping to meet Olivia when she comes also....

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That will be in a month! And we are planning a trip to Alexandria but it's going to be like a second honeymoon by the sea. When we are there for sure you and your Husband have to meet me and my Husband while there! Edited April 15, 2009 by Far2Long

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That will be in a month! And we are planning a trip to Alexandria but it's going to be like a second honeymoon by the sea. When we are there for sure you and your Husband have to meet me and my Husband while there!

Absolutely! ... I have a few American friends here as well, we'll throw them up in the mix LOL You will love the beach here , especially at night, its so pretty, and breezy, its really peaceful . I will take you to a place called Mamoura... its beautiful there.

I bet your so excited about coming, I know I was.. I remember my heart beating so fast when I got off the plane... I was so nervous to meet the love of my life.

Im sure you will have a great time here Olivia , and the best thing is being with the man you love... granted... this is not America, and you won't live an American lifestyle, just as none of us do here...but its only temporary... I keep telling myself that everyday.. one day I know I will be out of here.. and back in my country... where me and my husband can start a new life..

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I hope that day comes soon Jillai! You know my Mom's name is Jill.

She wants me to name one of our daughters Jill. Is Jillai the Arabic for Jill?

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I hope that day comes soon Jillai! You know my Mom's name is Jill.

She wants me to name one of our daughters Jill. Is Jillai the Arabic for Jill?

aww... how sweet... Jill is not really a very common name actually... I like it.. and no sweetie, Jill and then my last name is Abou Ismail... so I just used Jillai hehe

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I hope that day comes soon Jillai! You know my Mom's name is Jill.

She wants me to name one of our daughters Jill. Is Jillai the Arabic for Jill?

aww... how sweet... Jill is not really a very common name actually... I like it.. and no sweetie, Jill and then my last name is Abou Ismail... so I just used Jillai hehe

Ah dang. Waleed wants them to have Arabic names. I haven't met many Jill's either.

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khara is poo poo.

khara? Is that a male part we can say on VJ?

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khara is poo poo.

khara? Is that a male part we can say on VJ?

Thx! Waleed doesn't want me to learn bad words or say them so he doesn't teach them to me and tells his friends not to either. I don't want to say something that I don't know what it is.

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Jill, I apologize if my posts offended you at all. If you're satisfied with the status quo then that's all that counts. Yeah you probably should watch your wording on the forum. It's hard to fully get a point across online since there's no tone of voice heard or facial expressions seen. When you come on here talking about such out there things (according to US standards) you have to expect some sort of reaction. My ex is from a very closed society where most women are niqabis and don't go out without an escort and they do the whole hiding from male visitors thing...I understand all that stuff. I don't think I could hang with it but I get it. From your words and the tone of your posts it seemed like you were unhappy with the situation. I guess I was wrong.

Oh girl I could teach you so many bad naughty words, lol.

khara is poo poo.

khara? Is that a male part we can say on VJ?

Thx! Waleed doesn't want me to learn bad words or say them so he doesn't teach them to me and tells his friends not to either. I don't want to say something that I don't know what it is.

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I would love to learn some naughty words!

My husband, when he is playing on his playstation (a kid at heart, but so am I) sometimes uses words that I can tell aren't exactly proper. I can't help myself but to repeat what he said. I love the look on his face when I say it....priceless!

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Jill, I apologize if my posts offended you at all.

you didn't offend me at all. no worries, and thank you for your opinion

If you're satisfied with the status quo then that's all that counts. Yeah you probably should watch your wording on the forum. It's hard to fully get a point across online since there's no tone of voice heard or facial expressions seen. When you come on here talking about such out there things (according to US standards) you have to expect some sort of reaction. My ex is from a very closed society where most women are niqabis and don't go out without an escort and they do the whole hiding from male visitors thing...I understand all that stuff. I don't think I could hang with it but I get it. From your words and the tone of your posts it seemed like you were unhappy with the situation. I guess I was wrong.

Oh girl I could teach you so many bad naughty words, lol.

khara is poo poo.

khara? Is that a male part we can say on VJ?

Thx! Waleed doesn't want me to learn bad words or say them so he doesn't teach them to me and tells his friends not to either. I don't want to say something that I don't know what it is.

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My husband didn't want me going out alone and he also wanted me to go into another room when men came into the flat/house. In Egypt I was perfectly fine with this. When in Rome, right? In the US he expected the same thing .... for about a week and then gave up. lol. I mean c'mon I have to work right? And sometimes I'll go shopping after work to pick up a few things, etc.

Kinda funny but an engineer came to examine our home because it looked like the foundation was cracking (it's always something ). I go into the bedroom and close the door, laptop on the bed playing my mahjong bein' all happy. He must have come into the room about 10 times to ask me a question. Finally I just went out and talked to the dude myself. We really don't get many visitors other than the lil teeny boppers that visit my daughters so it's never been an issue but from now on I'm not going in my room. The irony is that I wanted to go in my room and have him handle it!!! I'd love that but I guess it will take a little more time for him to learn the house lingo.

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I can relate, because, yes, thats how we live here in Egypt..it's not acceptable for other men to see other men's wives. but my husband and I have had this conversation many times.... he understands that Im an American, and once we are back in the US... life will not be the same as it is here. nor will I accept that!.... kind of like you said, when in Rome, do as the Romans do.. exactly. that is what my husband has asked of me... to respect his wishes here in Egypt.. and live his way, and once we are in US.. he will live my way... and I do believe him...

If for some reason, he continues to treat me as he treats me here, as far as going outside.... I will divorce hiim, and he knows it already up front!

I have a wonderful marriage, with a man im very in love with, I just have a horrible lifestyle... I don't like staying in an apartment day after day, with nothing to do, being non productive, not making money.. etc.... and I WILL NOT under ANY circumstance accept that in USA.

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You know I had an american friend stay with me for two months in egypt; she wouldn't go anywhere without me! She knows some arabic but never dared to be out alone. Yes you can easily get harassed and not to mention ripped off in every store you can ever go to!

Now I'm here in the US -my situation is different but I feel the same way you do- ....no friends no family no job! My husband doesn't mind me going out alone nor getting a job but I can't find a job and I don't know the streets to go anywhere on my own.....so I'm kinda trapped too.

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You know I had an american friend stay with me for two months in egypt; she wouldn't go anywhere without me! She knows some arabic but never dared to be out alone. Yes you can easily get harassed and not to mention ripped off in every store you can ever go to!

Now I'm here in the US -my situation is different but I feel the same way you do- ....no friends no family no job! My husband doesn't mind me going out alone nor getting a job but I can't find a job and I don't know the streets to go anywhere on my own.....so I'm kinda trapped too.

aww, ask your husband to take you out on the weekends , or after he gets home from work to get used to the area your in, learn the streets, and the places you want to go, also, ask him to teach you how to drive, so eventually you can go places on your own. try to find some local islamic centers, or arabic stores in your area, and meet some friends.

Do you miss living in Egypt? I'm sure you must, this is your home... Is USA what you thought it would be?

Edited April 15, 2009 by Jillai