Riots In Moldova

[Jon & Dana 0]

I’m curious if anyone who has loved ones in Moldova have been keeping up with the news lately. I’m worried that these recent protest/riots could create problems with immigration to America. Has anyone heard anything regarding possible immigration conflicts because of these riots? My fiancé and I are waiting for our NOA 2 to clear any day now. I’m scared the problems that Moldova is having could create problems for us (trying to get her here).

In case you haven’t heard of the situation, here is a link to explain it. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/11/world/eu...ref=global-home

[lovica_l 0]

I actually know some people from moldova, they come to the usa on j-1 visa and work at my workplace during summer season, i have not heard about any riots, there are some moldovians still workign with me , i will ask them and get back to you

[payxibka 10,047]

I’m curious if anyone who has loved ones in Moldova have been keeping up with the news lately. I’m worried that these recent protest/riots could create problems with immigration to America. Has anyone heard anything regarding possible immigration conflicts because of these riots? My fiancé and I are waiting for our NOA 2 to clear any day now. I’m scared the problems that Moldova is having could create problems for us (trying to get her here).

In case you haven’t heard of the situation, here is a link to explain it. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/11/world/eu...ref=global-home

protests occur every day in different parts of the world.... if there is reason for the US to close there facility in Chisinau then it would have an obvious impact.... Protests occurring in Thailand are quite severe as well. For you, the concern would be protests in Bucharest since that is where the "K" interview occurs..

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I had actually seen plenty of videos posted on youtube, read plenty of articles, seen plenty of live transmissions. What happen there is tragic.

On April 5th, Moldova held general elections. Surprising or not, the communist party won the elections (or so was declared a couple of days ago by the election bureau). The politic opposition accused the communist party that the result was fraudulent, that elections were defrauded. The politic opposition organized a meeting in the main square in Chisinau, on April 7, to publicly protest. The protest degenerated in violence. There is plenty of evidence posted on youtube, specifically by an independent online news journal called JurnalTV, about instigators, about the police breaking into pieces a concrete fence, the pieces were later used by protesters to trow into the official buildings.

Romanian journalists, as well as many Moldavian journalists (specifically the reporters and staff of the JurnalTV) were hunted, followed, filmed, some arrested in the streets, or simply taken down and thrown in cars and driven to Police stations where they were forced into having "free discussions" (you should read interrogations without representation), by peoples in plain street cloths, without identifying themselves as police officers or whatever official function they were representing.

Not only that, but students, children and women were hunted on the streets by these plain cloths police/security officers, taken out of their homes, beaten, interrogated, not allowed to have representations, lawyers, and many of them are still in prison. One of these young people died and was buried yesterday. The official version is that he was "intoxicated" with some sort of fume. The contusions on his face, head, body, were "simply scratches". Another one (Moldavian studying in France, he was in Chisinau to vote) was beaten for helping with translation for some journalists.

Those released from prison were handed to sign declarations that they were treated right, not beaten, they will not go again to protest in the streets.

After negotiations with the opposition, the president and the communist party requested the recount of votes. Which doesn't solve the problem of election fraud (persons that were dead, or children with physical and mental disabilities, or people that were not in the country, seem to appear on the lists of voters).

Meantime, the president of Moldova accused Romania, Romanian and Serbian citizens, as being the instigators of violence on April 7, where there is evidence of Moldavian police/security officers doing exactly that, instigation.

You might think I'm biased (cause I am Romanian). I only wish JournalTV would post on youtube translations into English of the footage they have.

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protests occur every day in different parts of the world.... if there is reason for the US to close there facility in Chisinau then it would have an obvious impact.... Protests occurring in Thailand are quite severe as well. For you, the concern would be protests in Bucharest since that is where the "K" interview occurs..

There is no violence in Bucharest. The Moldavian students allover Romania organized protests in public spaces, but no violence of any sort has been registered at any of these protests.

While Moldova instituted a visa regimen for the Romanians that want to travel to Moldova, and declared persona non-grata the Romanian ambassador to Moldova, the Romanian government did not respond to this provocation, so Moldavians still obtain free entry to Romania, just as before the events in Chisinau.

[Jon & Dana 0]

I had actually seen plenty of videos posted on youtube, read plenty of articles, seen plenty of live transmissions. What happen there is tragic.

On April 5th, Moldova held general elections. Surprising or not, the communist party won the elections (or so was declared a couple of days ago by the election bureau). The politic opposition accused the communist party that the result was fraudulent, that elections were defrauded. The politic opposition organized a meeting in the main square in Chisinau, on April 7, to publicly protest. The protest degenerated in violence. There is plenty of evidence posted on youtube, specifically by an independent online news journal called JurnalTV, about instigators, about the police breaking into pieces a concrete fence, the pieces were later used by protesters to trow into the official buildings.

Romanian journalists, as well as many Moldavian journalists (specifically the reporters and staff of the JurnalTV) were hunted, followed, filmed, some arrested in the streets, or simply taken down and thrown in cars and driven to Police stations where they were forced into having "free discussions" (you should read interrogations without representation), by peoples in plain street cloths, without identifying themselves as police officers or whatever official function they were representing.

Not only that, but students, children and women were hunted on the streets by these plain cloths police/security officers, taken out of their homes, beaten, interrogated, not allowed to have representations, lawyers, and many of them are still in prison. One of these young people died and was buried yesterday. The official version is that he was "intoxicated" with some sort of fume. The contusions on his face, head, body, were "simply scratches". Another one (Moldavian studying in France, he was in Chisinau to vote) was beaten for helping with translation for some journalists.

Those released from prison were handed to sign declarations that they were treated right, not beaten, they will not go again to protest in the streets.

After negotiations with the opposition, the president and the communist party requested the recount of votes. Which doesn't solve the problem of election fraud (persons that were dead, or children with physical and mental disabilities, or people that were not in the country, seem to appear on the lists of voters).

Meantime, the president of Moldova accused Romania, Romanian and Serbian citizens, as being the instigators of violence on April 7, where there is evidence of Moldavian police/security officers doing exactly that, instigation.

You might think I'm biased (cause I am Romanian). I only wish JournalTV would post on youtube translations into English of the footage they have.

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I too have read exactly what you stated (English version). The corruption and chaos Moldova faces worries me. I still don’t want my fiancé to walk the streets alone for fear one of these “plain clothed men” might approach her for unjust reasons. I’m paranoid as it is (having a loved one so far away while trying to process the K-1 visa) but to have this out break occur only makes matters worse. Who knows if another riot will occur because of another fraudulent election? Worse yet…a possible civil war! Even though I have MANY concerns at this moment, one of my biggest is that the Moldovan government might try to revolt against the students by making immigration to other countries more difficult. Again, maybe I’m just being paranoid. But with the completion of the K-1 visa only about a month or two away…who wouldn’t be?!

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See Map1Map,

I too have read exactly what you stated (English version). The corruption and chaos Moldova faces worries me. I still don’t want my fiancé to walk the streets alone for fear one of these “plain clothed men” might approach her for unjust reasons. I’m paranoid as it is (having a loved one so far away while trying to process the K-1 visa) but to have this out break occur only makes matters worse. Who knows if another riot will occur because of another fraudulent election? Worse yet…a possible civil war! Even though I have MANY concerns at this moment, one of my biggest is that the Moldovan government might try to revolt against the students by making immigration to other countries more difficult. Again, maybe I’m just being paranoid. But with the completion of the K-1 visa only about a month or two away…who wouldn’t be?!

I totally understand your point. I have nobody over there, and I am still worried, because that type of violence and state intervention, better said oppression, is very unlikely at the border of the European Union, even more so in a country that intends at some point to join the EU. Advice her to stay safe, away from public gatherings, away from such type of demonstrations. Security is the greatest concern now.

[B'sA 0]

so Moldavians still obtain free entry to Romania, just as before the events in Chisinau.

Oh...i wish that would be true, but i had to sleep by the romanian embassy gates to go to Bucharest to get my K1 last summer.

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so Moldavians still obtain free entry to Romania, just as before the events in Chisinau.

Oh...i wish that would be true, but i had to sleep by the romanian embassy gates to go to Bucharest to get my K1 last summer.

You're right, you need a visa, still is not like you need an invitation from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to enter. And be sure, there will be no secret service officer following your moves once you cross the border into Romania, or intimidating you in police stations, or walking at 10 feet of you - ahead or behind, at late hours, as it happen to me in Chisinau, about 5 years ago.

I sure hope for peace and stability over there, and freedom for all.