Death Certificate - Beneficiary's Father

[Noi3125 1]

In our packet four from the Consulate/Embassy there was a sheet listing what originals should be bought to the interview. And on the edge of that there was a little hand written note which said: Original Death Certificate- Beneficiary's Father.

My husband’s (the beneficiary) father died when he was nine. No one in the family has record of his dates of birth or death. After two days of being tossed back and forth between the local authorities (ampure) it was determined today that there is no record of the death certificate. The person in charge of the local authority said he would write a letter for us.

I am not sure why the embassy is looking for the death certificate, so I am not sure what should be written in this letter. Is the death certificated needed because we did not put a date of birth, perhaps?

Any advice would be appreciated. Otherwise he will write a letter which states that Mr. XXX was previously a resident of (address) and died in the year XXXX.

Should this be sufficient?

Thanks in advance for your assistance,

Noi

[daboyz 36]

In our packet four from the Consulate/Embassy there was a sheet listing what originals should be bought to the interview. And on the edge of that there was a little hand written note which said: Original Death Certificate- Beneficiary's Father.

My husband’s (the beneficiary) father died when he was nine. No one in the family has record of his dates of birth or death. After two days of being tossed back and forth between the local authorities (ampure) it was determined today that there is no record of the death certificate. The person in charge of the local authority said he would write a letter for us.

I am not sure why the embassy is looking for the death certificate, so I am not sure what should be written in this letter. Is the death certificated needed because we did not put a date of birth, perhaps?

Any advice would be appreciated. Otherwise he will write a letter which states that Mr. XXX was previously a resident of (address) and died in the year XXXX.

Should this be sufficient?

Thanks in advance for your assistance,

Noi

Not sure about death certificate, but my wife had no birth certificate. She got a letter from the Amphur stating she was born on this date in this town etc., and that there is no record of her birth. Had that translated to English for NVC. Not sure if you will need the translation or not since it is the Thai embassy.

They sure seem be getting weird at the BKK embassy lately.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

In our packet four from the Consulate/Embassy there was a sheet listing what originals should be bought to the interview. And on the edge of that there was a little hand written note which said: Original Death Certificate- Beneficiary's Father.

My husband’s (the beneficiary) father died when he was nine. No one in the family has record of his dates of birth or death. After two days of being tossed back and forth between the local authorities (ampure) it was determined today that there is no record of the death certificate. The person in charge of the local authority said he would write a letter for us.

I am not sure why the embassy is looking for the death certificate, so I am not sure what should be written in this letter. Is the death certificated needed because we did not put a date of birth, perhaps?

Any advice would be appreciated. Otherwise he will write a letter which states that Mr. XXX was previously a resident of (address) and died in the year XXXX.

Should this be sufficient?

Thanks in advance for your assistance,

Noi

Not sure about death certificate, but my wife had no birth certificate. She got a letter from the Amphur stating she was born on this date in this town etc., and that there is no record of her birth. Had that translated to English for NVC. Not sure if you will need the translation or not since it is the Thai embassy.

They sure seem be getting weird at the BKK embassy lately.

Strange indeed. Typically anything presented to the consulate must be translated to English, so I would advise that. Is it possible he was a member of a church that may have a record? Otherwise I think the letter you will receive should be adequate.

[thepizzadude 26]

My suggestion would be to email the consulate and explain to them your situation and see exactly what they respond with.

[Thai family 0]

Hi Noi,

It's great to see that your husband's interview is on the horizon. I'd just take the statement from the Amphur and not sweat it. My DIL still likes Mobivox Thanks for the recommendation.

We sure are enjoying her.

Thai Mom

[scandal 951]

In our packet four from the Consulate/Embassy there was a sheet listing what originals should be bought to the interview. And on the edge of that there was a little hand written note which said: Original Death Certificate- Beneficiary's Father.

My husband’s (the beneficiary) father died when he was nine. No one in the family has record of his dates of birth or death. After two days of being tossed back and forth between the local authorities (ampure) it was determined today that there is no record of the death certificate. The person in charge of the local authority said he would write a letter for us.

I am not sure why the embassy is looking for the death certificate, so I am not sure what should be written in this letter. Is the death certificated needed because we did not put a date of birth, perhaps?

Any advice would be appreciated. Otherwise he will write a letter which states that Mr. XXX was previously a resident of (address) and died in the year XXXX.

Should this be sufficient?

Thanks in advance for your assistance,

Noi

Not sure about death certificate, but my wife had no birth certificate. She got a letter from the Amphur stating she was born on this date in this town etc., and that there is no record of her birth. Had that translated to English for NVC. Not sure if you will need the translation or not since it is the Thai embassy.

They sure seem be getting weird at the BKK embassy lately.

Strange indeed. Typically anything presented to the consulate must be translated to English, so I would advise that. Is it possible he was a member of a church that may have a record? Otherwise I think the letter you will receive should be adequate.

Hi Noi

You probably should disregard the above advice regarding translations. As you and I (and anyone familiar with BKK procedure) knows, documents in Thai and English are both acceptable at US embassy in BKK. I think that the letter from the local official attesting to your father-in-law's passing is probably a very reasonable starting point to satisfy the IV Unit - if that is insufficient I suppose you'll have to dig deeper, but hopefully that should satisfy them.

I do appreciate your posting however, since it may yet be relevant to our situation too.

We just sent back our Packet3 and are waiting for a P-4 with our interview schedule. Due to Songkran and all the protests going on in Thailand we're bracing for a delay on that. However, when I read your post what immediately occurred to me is that Thanti's father passed away in the summer of 2007. We of course recorded that on the paperwork, but did not include his death certificate (it was never asked for!!). Now I'm wondering if we'll get an RFE type of response, as you did, requesting that. I'll let you know if that happens to us.

Good luck, let us know how things go.

[Noi3125 1]

In our packet four from the Consulate/Embassy there was a sheet listing what originals should be bought to the interview. And on the edge of that there was a little hand written note which said: Original Death Certificate- Beneficiary's Father.

My husband’s (the beneficiary) father died when he was nine. No one in the family has record of his dates of birth or death. After two days of being tossed back and forth between the local authorities (ampure) it was determined today that there is no record of the death certificate. The person in charge of the local authority said he would write a letter for us.

I am not sure why the embassy is looking for the death certificate, so I am not sure what should be written in this letter. Is the death certificated needed because we did not put a date of birth, perhaps?

Any advice would be appreciated. Otherwise he will write a letter which states that Mr. XXX was previously a resident of (address) and died in the year XXXX.

Should this be sufficient?

Thanks in advance for your assistance,

Noi

Not sure about death certificate, but my wife had no birth certificate. She got a letter from the Amphur stating she was born on this date in this town etc., and that there is no record of her birth. Had that translated to English for NVC. Not sure if you will need the translation or not since it is the Thai embassy.

They sure seem be getting weird at the BKK embassy lately.

Strange indeed. Typically anything presented to the consulate must be translated to English, so I would advise that. Is it possible he was a member of a church that may have a record? Otherwise I think the letter you will receive should be adequate.

Hi Noi

You probably should disregard the above advice regarding translations. As you and I (and anyone familiar with BKK procedure) knows, documents in Thai and English are both acceptable at US embassy in BKK. I think that the letter from the local official attesting to your father-in-law's passing is probably a very reasonable starting point to satisfy the IV Unit - if that is insufficient I suppose you'll have to dig deeper, but hopefully that should satisfy them.

I do appreciate your posting however, since it may yet be relevant to our situation too.

We just sent back our Packet3 and are waiting for a P-4 with our interview schedule. Due to Songkran and all the protests going on in Thailand we're bracing for a delay on that. However, when I read your post what immediately occurred to me is that Thanti's father passed away in the summer of 2007. We of course recorded that on the paperwork, but did not include his death certificate (it was never asked for!!). Now I'm wondering if we'll get an RFE type of response, as you did, requesting that. I'll let you know if that happens to us.

Good luck, let us know how things go.

I don't think it should affect your timing. They didn't send us an RFE or anything, it was just a little hand written note on the interview appointment letter. I will let you know if they really wanted it when we have our interview. At the very least you could just have it prepared for your interview in case they ask.

We got a letter from the local official but I am not sure it is too convincing. It says something to the affect of I am reporting that two people swear that thier father, Mr. XXX, died in the year of XXXX. There were no dates or anything, we searched through two local offices and neither have records. We think one of my husband's sisters may have his (the dad's) ID card so hopefully we can get that to take. So you guys are probably much better off being that the death was much more recent.

We are getting ready for our interview this coming Friday. We are both scared but hopeful. I just hope the protests don't shut down the Embassy. Anyway, hopefully your interview will come soon. The embassy recieved our P3 on a Friday. I emailed them on Monday to make sure they had it. They replied on Tuesday they did, and WEdnesday they sent us an email with the interview date. So hopefully you will hear something soon... and as you mentioned it would be sooner without the holiday and riots.

Well take care,

Noi