Time frame for legally staying in the United Kingdom

[MARM 7]

I hope u get your situation resolved swiftly.

This is not YOUR thread, this is a public forum.

I have created this thread, I am the original poster, and your comments or posts are not wanted in this thread by me, so I can ask you not to post your comments in here, especially since you are violating TOS:

Qouted directly from VisaJourney TOS:

By way of example, and not as a limitation, you agree that when using the Service, you will not:

Make comments in a Post either direct or implied toward another member that are purposely designed to upset, antagonize, make fun of, belittle, or otherwise instigate an argument that takes away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by other users.

You are taking away from the purpose of this thread by instigating a non-related argument, that I personally find offensive, because we did not "USE" your country as you put it. Thus, you are taking away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by other users, such as me, the one who started this thread, so if you want to complain about someone using your country, feel free to create another thread and discuss your heart out.

My fiance did not USE your country to get an education. Your country has laws and due process that were followed by my fiance and YOUR COUNTRY HAS ADMITTED TO FAULT as the UKHO has personally apologized for delaying sending my fiance's passport back to him for 2-3 months while his UK FLR(S) was sitting there collecting dust when it had been approved long ago.

You miss your home country, there is nothing wrong with that. My fiance misses his home country of Pakistan, I miss my country of origin, Pakistan as well. It is fine to miss your home country, but that does not mean you spoil my thread with your baseless comments of "USING" your country for an education.

A better choice of words was needed on your part.

And we do hope to get this situation resolved quickly as well, thank you.

Edited October 20, 2009 by MARM

[broma25 2]

I hope u get your situation resolved swiftly.

This is not YOUR thread, this is a public forum.

I have created this thread, I am the original poster, and your comments or posts are not wanted in this thread by me, so I can ask you not to post your comments in here, especially since you are violating TOS:

Qouted directly from VisaJourney TOS:

By way of example, and not as a limitation, you agree that when using the Service, you will not:

Make comments in a Post either direct or implied toward another member that are purposely designed to upset, antagonize, make fun of, belittle, or otherwise instigate an argument that takes away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by other users.

You are taking away from the purpose of this thread by instigating a non-related argument, that I personally find offensive, because we did not "USE" your country as you put it. Thus, you are taking away from the personal enjoyment of the Service by other users, such as me, the one who started this thread, so if you want to complain about someone using your country, feel free to create another thread and discuss your heart out.

My fiance did not USE your country to get an education. Your country has laws and due process that were followed by my fiance and YOUR COUNTRY HAS ADMITTED TO FAULT as the UKHO has personally apologized for delaying sending my fiance's passport back to him for 2-3 months while his UK FLR(S) was sitting there collecting dust when it had been approved long ago.

You miss your home country, there is nothing wrong with that. My fiance misses his home country of Pakistan, I miss my country of origin, Pakistan as well. It is fine to miss your home country, but that does not mean you spoil my thread with your baseless comments of "USING" your country for an education.

A better choice of words was needed on your part.

And we do hope to get this situation resolved quickly as well, thank you.

I will leave YOUR thread alone....NOT because YOU say so, but just because you obviously are an obnoxious individual who choses only to accept POSITIVE comments. There is so much more I want to say, but you know what you are just not worth it.

Oh and NO I did not violate TOS just by stating my own opinion.....as a US citizen don't I have the right of Freedom of Speech!

And just for the record I have been around on this forum for over 5 years and I certainly do not go around hijacking threads for no reason......Your choice of words upset me.....is that a TOS violation.

I wish you well.....

Edited October 20, 2009 by broma25

[JeremyR 8]

as a US citizen don't I have the right of Freedom of Speech!

Not on a privately owned and run web forum.

Edited October 21, 2009 by JeremyR

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

I'm sure whatever university Marm's fiance attended did very well by the fees he paid as a foreign student which would have been several times more than a UK citizen would have paid

[MARM 7]

Well, since we are on the topic, I can't believe I never mentioned the college my fiance attends, it probably matters:

He attended LBS (London Business School) and completed his Executive MBA and Masters in Finance. We really appreciate the opportunity for him being allowed to complete his studies in the UK, but he had to endure quite a lot of hardships due to the UKBA constantly changing their policies and application systems in the past few years, oh and my fiance worked part time throughout his studies in the UK and filed taxes every year. Unfortunately, since his student visa is expiring and the UKBA decided to change some of the policies yet again, my fiance has been unemployed completely for the past 2-3 months because he needs his passport to renew a work contract, and even if he had his passport that is being withheld by the US Embassy in London, he cannot renew his work contract because he needs to show that he has a minimum of 6 months stay remaining in the UK on his status so that anyone will be interested in hiring him. Anyway, the point I am making is that nothing was just "given" to him, and he had to pay more than he should have (in addition to financially, also with regards to the emotional payment he has made for the way the UKBA has dealt with his applications and that in turn effected everything else including our K-1 process), especially since he has always followed the rules.

Edited October 21, 2009 by MARM

[broma25 2]

Well, since we are on the topic, I can't believe I never mentioned the college my fiance attends, it probably matters:

He attended LBS (London Business School) and completed his Executive MBA and Masters in Finance. We really appreciate the opportunity for him being allowed to complete his studies in the UK, but he had to endure quite a lot of hardships due to the UKBA constantly changing their policies and application systems in the past few years, oh and my fiance worked part time throughout his studies in the UK and filed taxes every year. Unfortunately, since his student visa is expiring and the UKBA decided to change some of the policies yet again, my fiance has been unemployed completely for the past 2-3 months because he needs his passport to renew a work contract, and even if he had his passport that is being withheld by the US Embassy in London, he cannot renew his work contract because he needs to show that he has a minimum of 6 months stay remaining in the UK on his status so that anyone will be interested in hiring him. Anyway, the point I am making is that nothing was just "given" to him, and he had to pay more than he should have (in addition to financially, also with regards to the emotional payment he has made for the way the UKBA has dealt with his applications and that in turn effected everything else including our K-1 process), especially since he has always followed the rules.

Hey get down off your high horse.....i feel for you....although when i dealt with UK immigration i have to say they were very lax to say the least. But each situation is different and I am sure what you say is true.

My complaint was in your choice of words, which insinuated that he used the UK just for his education (to me anyway). I have no problem with you complaining about the system im sure it sucks to be stuck in limbo like you seem to be. Have they refused to give him his passport back? Why would they do that?

Also just for the record we dont file taxes in the UK

[MARM 7]

Well, since we are on the topic, I can't believe I never mentioned the college my fiance attends, it probably matters:

He attended LBS (London Business School) and completed his Executive MBA and Masters in Finance. We really appreciate the opportunity for him being allowed to complete his studies in the UK, but he had to endure quite a lot of hardships due to the UKBA constantly changing their policies and application systems in the past few years, oh and my fiance worked part time throughout his studies in the UK and filed taxes every year.

Correction for the above statement for factual purposes: A significant percentage of his income went to NIC contributions and whatever else counts as taxes, although he was working less than 20 hrs/week.

Edited October 21, 2009 by MARM

[MARM 7]

Just another update and a question (if anyone can give me some direction on where to get an answer or let me know if they know the answer):

-DOS has told me that the last update to my fiance's AP was Oct 16, 09, and that was a note from the embassy in the system saying they received his passport. This is very perplexing because the embassy put a note in the system on June 15, 09 that they received my fiance's passport...and now this is a second note that they received his passport??? They did not send it back to him after June 15, 09 and neither do they send the passport anywhere during AP/AR as far as I know (maybe I am wrong???). So this is kind of worrying to me that they supposedly received his passport "twice" according to the system as DOS has told me. DOS reps do not know the reason for this, and I know better than to take the information they give me seriously. So I have initiated another senatorial inquiry (that will be faxed tomorrow to the Senator's office), and I hope that they can at least give me a proper status update. I have also reminded them in the inquiry that his UK FLR(S) expires Nov 30, 09. Things don't look good at the moment as far as his processing being completed anytime soon, we'll see what tomorrow brings...

[Nik+Heather 121]

I'm crossing my fingers that it's a good thing. Still checking this forum every day hoping for your good news, MARM!

[MARM 7]

I'm crossing my fingers that it's a good thing. Still checking this forum every day hoping for your good news, MARM!

We are 1 week away from hitting the 6 months in AP/AR mark!

And...literally 28 days left until my fiance's UK FLR(S) expires!

I don't think the experience with US immigration gets any worse than this! If my fiance were a citizen of his interviewing embassy it wouldn't have been this bad, but what can we do except wait and hope for the best...

We recently sent a Senatorial inquiry and have not heard back...it's not like they actually help the process but it's nice to hear something rather than nothing from DOS or the embassy...still waiting

[Justine+David 218]

Does your fiance have his passport? Is he going to go home at the end of this month if nothing happens?

Edited November 3, 2009 by Justine+David

[MARM 7]

Does your fiance have his passport? Is he going to go home at the end of this month if nothing happens?

No my fiance does not have his passport, the US Embassy in London is deaf to our requests and pleas for information or the passport back...all they keep saying is "we are working on it". And we don't know what we will do at the end of the month if nothing happens, we are taking it one day at a time, its tough, but we don't have a choice otherwise...

Thanks for asking

[imaisha 0]

MARM, has your fiance been in touch with the Pakistani embassy about his options for leaving the country, like a second passport? Will anyone still in the UK be able to receive his passport if it comes down to that?

[MARM 7]

MARM, has your fiance been in touch with the Pakistani embassy about his options for leaving the country, like a second passport? Will anyone still in the UK be able to receive his passport if it comes down to that?

Yes he has been in touch with the Pakistani embassy, and they have redirected us back to the UK Home Office and the US Embassy in London because they say that they can only issue an emergency travel document or a duplicate passport IF the first one is lost or stolen, no other circumstances allow them to issue another one. It is considered illegal if they do issue my fiance another passport or emergency travel document.

As far as anyone in the UK being able to receive his passport, I suppose we can arrange for that if it comes down to that, but the problem is that the Embassy in London has said that they cannot have his passport in one country and my fiance in another country, both have to be in the same place. So as you can see, we are running around in circles

[Justine+David 218]

Oh my gosh. I would be crazy! I'm sure you must be! How awful!

Is there some solace that "something" will happen by the end of this month? At least it gets forwarded to Pakistan worst case scenario?

Edited November 5, 2009 by Justine+David