Ilocano vs Visayas Where most bar girls come from?

[Ken & Marife 0]

Well guys, I've married both Ilocana and Visayas, I must admit, my current wife is from Visayas and she is most pleasant and loving in every way imaginable. I would not trade in my little lady from Visayas for nothing in this world.

When I was stationed in Olongapo in the late 80's and early 90's, the Ilocano ladies were just as desperate to land a young American man as any other lady from any other part of the country. They all wanted that American dream.

Everyone will have their own opinion, but I've seen it and lived in it.

[Tahoma 2,292]

(Mykuls Merry Ann @ Apr 5 2009, 05:03 PM)

I had a talk with some filipinas and I found out that most of the girls that you see in the bars working as bargirls are usually Visayan. I also now see what they mean. In fact while I was stationed and visit the Phiippines I noticed the U.S. bases are near more people who have Ilocano culture, and that you have to travel very far to Visayas. So most of the girls who leave the province and work as bar girls are usually from Visayas regions. Because Ilocano live so close and interact more with military and foreigners they are more likely to know the good and bad of western culture and how it affects pilipino culture.

It seems also true that most of the Visayan girls try to act like they have more class and culture than their Ilocano counterparts.

But what I see happening is that the Ilocana seems to know more about foreigners (especially military) and the Visayan do not see what they are getting themselves into dealing with American military and all the foreign men who visit the Philippines just to meet poor Asian women. So its probably that the Ilocana has seen the bad experiences that western culture brings to pilipino culture. And they know how some military and foreigners can be. So they are more likely to stay away and try to hold on to their pilipino cultural heritage. But this education is not as good or as strong for the Visayan women. They are more likely to think that meeting an American or a foreigner is a dream lifestyle. Education is needed here.

Which is probably why more Visayan are working in clubs in higher numbers.

Like most other pinays here I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH YOUR FINDINGS HERE. You made a sweeping generalization out from a meager data you acquired by talking some of the Filipinas. I bet you have no enough knowledge of scientific research because there is no validity and reliability of the information you generated as your findings. I would like to put emphasis that I am a Visayan but I am not and never in my whole life as a bar girl. Your claims are quite offensive and you were saying those as if you were very sure of it and you were not even seeking any validity. You noticed I underlined some important items in your post that I want to make it clear to you. Let me ask you these questions: Have you travelled all parts of the Philippines? Have you surveyed all the bars in the Philippines? How many bars you visited in the Philippines? Did you survey the total population of the girls who went to big cities end up as bar girls? Don't you know that the term "provinces" in the Philippines refers to all places except Metro Manila? And do you know that it's not only the people in Visayas do speak Visayan? Don't be surprised if many of the pinays specially the visayans here in VJ are in rage reacting from your groundless and unsubstantiated shallow knowledge about Philippines. Are you implying that visayans are just good as bar girls? By the way what is the ethnicity of your wife?

How did you meet your wife? was it in the bar?

hahahahahaha, its always funny to me how you can see this as being wrong or offending. Why not just say you dont agree or think this is true? By trying to be sarcastic you are actually giving validity to the post itself....lol....thanks for that...lol

Nobody was pleased from your post..it was purely a sign of ignorance, insensitivity and meager knowledge...You need to know that "Little knowledge is dangerous"..And it is indeed true; because of your post it appears as if YOU against ALL the visayan pinays here in VJ.

Is it true that its more Visayan working in the bars than of other regions?

PO...you are not leaving anyone any middle ground for a discussion. You refuse to answer any questions posed to you. You are leading us to believe that either you are an attention ####### (even if it happens to be negative attention), or you are truly as dense as you sound. Which is it?

[alienlovechild 75]

Is it true that its more Visayan working in the bars than of other regions?

I cannot answer that question with accuracy because I don't hold the facts and figures to support my answer if ever there is any. Now, I will give you that as your assignment to research for its answer because I was never been to a bar. You started this thread, try to finish it. I don't have enough knowledge when it comes to bar and all those stuff. Be sure that your finding with that inquiry will have 99% accuracy and reliability or else you will be in trouble.

[Mykuls Merry Ann 4]

I had a talk with some filipinas and I found out that most of the girls that you see in the bars working as bargirls are usually Visayan. I also now see what they mean. In fact while I was stationed and visit the Phiippines I noticed the U.S. bases are near more people who have Ilocano culture, and that you have to travel very far to Visayas. So most of the girls who leave the province and work as bar girls are usually from Visayas regions. Because Ilocano live so close and interact more with military and foreigners they are more likely to know the good and bad of western culture and how it affects pilipino culture.

It seems also true that most of the Visayan girls try to act like they have more class and culture than their Ilocano counterparts.

But what I see happening is that the Ilocana seems to know more about foreigners (especially military) and the Visayan do not see what they are getting themselves into dealing with American military and all the foreign men who visit the Philippines just to meet poor Asian women. So its probably that the Ilocana has seen the bad experiences that western culture brings to pilipino culture. And they know how some military and foreigners can be. So they are more likely to stay away and try to hold on to their pilipino cultural heritage. But this education is not as good or as strong for the Visayan women. They are more likely to think that meeting an American or a foreigner is a dream lifestyle. Education is needed here.

Which is probably why more Visayan are working in clubs in higher numbers.

How sure are you of the things you are saying? How many Filipinas have you talked to, by the way? bar girls in the Philippines are from all over.

yes your right angel its all over and i think the OP must be responsible of what he posted here you should consider some of the things that should not be posted.. i knew you want to speak out but you should watch your word generalizing visayan woman think about it sir and be responsible on your act............ peace its holy week... and by the way im from MINDANAO the land of promise

come to think of it, did you mean VISAYAN as the language they use to communicate? or are u referring to an archipelago of visayas... i was born in cebu which makes me a visayan. raised in mindanao and still that makes me a visayan coz i speak a visayan language... ilocano/a (if you're referring to those who live in ilocos?) is only a very small margin when you talk about "visayan" (whatever you mean by that statement), knowing FYI are consisting of visayas and mindanao region. please you cant just start giving statistics where your margin can be compared as day and night... and here u are talking about education is being need in the country... let's start to educate ourselves shall we? and yes i need more education too... thats why im on the computer/internet most of the time (online study lol)...

Well the bigger question is, is it true that the majority of girls working in a club are from the visayas region, di ba? There are several regions in the PH, and I am talking about the visayas region,including Mindinao.

Maybe someone from visayan region hurt you or busted you that why you hate visayan ladies.lol..Sorry but mostly visayan ladies are so picky to choose husband they prefer to marry handsome guys not black guys..

I am guessing you are Visayan and also worked as a bargirl, di ba?

Ano ba naman yan Mykuls! I was trying to help you out na nga for them to understand you why you start this thread...nakikipag-away ka pa!

Its true...there could be working girls from visayas region but one thing is for sure..we are very picky in selecting partner in life " not good looking rude black"

Visayan retired bargirl?

[Mykuls Merry Ann 4]

FOR THE OP OF THIS THREAD..TO MAKE THIS THREAD CLOSE PLEASE ZIPPER YOUR BIG MOUTH...AND STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF...Your lucky there is still Filipina like and want you..

Well to close the thread, then you should stop posting to it. Think about what is in your control and not how others can control you. You dont need to click on this thread. You have the power.

incorrect. not posting in a thread does not mean it will be closed.

But you dont have to read it or respond to it. Its all the power one individual has, and deserves.

yet still the thread isn't closed - which was you earlier asserted.

Of course its only a start. Heck I dont agree with gay marriage, so I use my vote to show such a thing. While gay marriage is legal in some places, I still have the power of my vote to not participate....lol

[=FoxyBLUE= 2]

Ay! May "topak" na nga talaga tong taong to!

[Jeanycnd 0]

Ay! May "topak" na nga talaga tong taong to!

Lam mo sis.Drug addict yta un eh....

[Mykuls Merry Ann 4]

The rage of this very thread actually shows how valid it is. People will strick in a negative way to things. If you read the original post it was not meant to offend. But some got rubbed the wrong way. It nothing but pure evidence....

[Jeanycnd 0]

FOR THE OP OF THIS THREAD..TO MAKE THIS THREAD CLOSE PLEASE ZIPPER YOUR BIG MOUTH...AND STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF...Your lucky there is still Filipina like and want you..

Well to close the thread, then you should stop posting to it. Think about what is in your control and not how others can control you. You dont need to click on this thread. You have the power.

incorrect. not posting in a thread does not mean it will be closed.

But you dont have to read it or respond to it. Its all the power one individual has, and deserves.

yet still the thread isn't closed - which was you earlier asserted.

Of course its only a start. Heck I dont agree with gay marriage, so I use my vote to show such a thing. While gay marriage is legal in some places, I still have the power of my vote to not participate....lol

Hay..how come this topic goes to Gay marriage..LOL

[Rocky_nBullwinkle 6]

Ay! May "topak" na nga talaga tong taong to!

Lam mo sis.Drug addict yta un eh....

Hindi siya drug addict. Bastos lang siya.

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Mykuls Merry ann

Loko!!! walang modo, drug addict..mahilig kasing mag bar!!!! i bet you met your girl in one of those barssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ban Hammer 13,282]

FOR THE OP OF THIS THREAD..TO MAKE THIS THREAD CLOSE PLEASE ZIPPER YOUR BIG MOUTH...AND STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF...Your lucky there is still Filipina like and want you..

Well to close the thread, then you should stop posting to it. Think about what is in your control and not how others can control you. You dont need to click on this thread. You have the power.

incorrect. not posting in a thread does not mean it will be closed.

But you dont have to read it or respond to it. Its all the power one individual has, and deserves.

yet still the thread isn't closed - which was you earlier asserted.

Of course its only a start. Heck I dont agree with gay marriage, so I use my vote to show such a thing. While gay marriage is legal in some places, I still have the power of my vote to not participate....lol

failed logic again, kinda like that in the op and throughout this thread? stereotypes won't earn you friends, unless you think being on the radar screen of the mods and admin is a positive thing. and given the number of times i've seen tos violations in this thread, i expect it will be closed - and disappear, just like a few of the posters in here.

[Jeanycnd 0]

Mykuls Merry ann

Loko!!! walang modo, drug addict..mahilig kasing mag bar!!!! i bet you met your girl in one of those barssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahahahahahaha

[o0pink0o 3]

FOR THE OP OF THIS THREAD..TO MAKE THIS THREAD CLOSE PLEASE ZIPPER YOUR BIG MOUTH...AND STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF...Your lucky there is still Filipina like and want you..

Well to close the thread, then you should stop posting to it. Think about what is in your control and not how others can control you. You dont need to click on this thread. You have the power.

incorrect. not posting in a thread does not mean it will be closed.

But you dont have to read it or respond to it. Its all the power one individual has, and deserves.

yet still the thread isn't closed - which was you earlier asserted.

Of course its only a start. Heck I dont agree with gay marriage, so I use my vote to show such a thing. While gay marriage is legal in some places, I still have the power of my vote to not participate....lol

Wow this guy REALLY IS as stupid as he sounds...he believes his vote counts lmao...heard of the electoral college? To all pinoy/pinay: Thank you for not being as shallow and astoundingly stupid as this moron...Id shudder to think you considered him indicative of ALL americans..i assure you he is only indicative of the lowest of classes in any race of american...i love the philippines and have always loved the differences in the different places i went..I have always been warmly welcomed and treated as family no matter where i went including the visayas..(and not one visayan tried to lure me with her feminine wiles).

[=FoxyBLUE= 2]

The rage of this very thread actually shows how valid it is. People will strick in a negative way to things. If you read the original post it was not meant to offend. But some got rubbed the wrong way. It nothing but pure evidence....

EXACTLY!!! that was the reason I was trying to tell them.....that you mean no harm...but you cant blame others to react, its their choice like you have your choice too....

BUT..BUT..BUT...what are you doing right now? you are trying to worsen the situation? I think if you want this thread closed and you really dont mean to affend anyone..then stop answering in a negative way..then they would probably shut up! the more you react, the more they do too!

If your intention is "para asarin sila" well....you are doing a very good job! but let me ask you this? what do you really want to point out? are you just trying to clarify things or judging people in your own kind of survey? Give us the evidence...then we'll think it over......

Go out and try to go to every single bar in the Philippines and ask them if they are visaya or ilocano, then give us a tally of what you surveyed. if your report says that Visaya and Ilocano are raging the biggest volume on bars....then we can shut up..