Smudges = faking ones identity.

[abbynorm2 0]

I don't know how it happened, but we are now under AR. We were so careful to collect and submit everything that was required, we even obtained more than one copy of many of the required documents. Things were going great at the interview laughing and reading chat logs and looking at vacation pix, Then the CO at window 27 (white female) saw a smudge on the NBI clearance and said, where did you get this?

Abby: I got it at the NBI office in CDO Ma'am

CO: (looking at the document with a magnifying glass) this is a fake, now where did you get it?(calling 2 other people over see it)

Abby:I swear to god ma'am, I got it in the NBI office in CDO.

question repeats like a broken record many more times.

CO: Why is your BC late registered?

Abby: because my mom thought the midwife was the one who was supposed to file that, but when I needed my BC to register for college, I found out that midwife never filed it. therefore my mom had to file.

CO: I think you are trying to fake your identity. I think you have been married, and will need to get an annulment.

Abby: Ma'am, I've never been married before why should I get an annulment?

Co: You're under oath right now so I suggest that you tell me the truth.

Abby: Yes ma'am, I'm telling the truth.

CO: just tell me the truth and I will approve you case

Abby: I am telling the truth, I have never been married, and I am not faking my identity.

Co: if you submit fake documents you will be banned from ever entering the united states.

Abby: I know that ma'am

Co: just wait in the lobby for your number.

Abby: thank you ma'am.

Needless to say, she was handed a white slip and her passport from window 37. the paper lists several things some of which are not possible.

All old ID's, New NBI with a letter of explanation from the office of NBI. The Office of NBI says that a letter of explanation is only given to criminals or those who have something that needs explanation on the NBI clearance, a smudge or ink spill does not warrant an explanation laughed the lady at the NBI office but she did replace the NBI clearance and even stamped it with the NBI seal.

new Cenomar, Voters affidavit , Hospital records from pregnancy or birth. (not possible either)

So my question is, what should she do about the NBI explanation and the hospital records that do not exist?

Should she write a letter to the embassy explaining that she has never been married nor ever been pregnant? or are these trick questions designed to trip up the people who are trying to commit fraud? She is still too upset or she would be posting this herself.

[Dakine 26]

I don't know how it happened, but we are now under AR. We were so careful to collect and submit everything that was required, we even obtained more than one copy of many of the required documents. Things were going great at the interview laughing and reading chat logs and looking at vacation pix, Then the CO at window 27 (white female) saw a smudge on the NBI clearance and said, where did you get this?

Abby: I got it at the NBI office in CDO Ma'am

CO: (looking at the document with a magnifying glass) this is a fake, now where did you get it?(calling 2 other people over see it)

Abby:I swear to god ma'am, I got it in the NBI office in CDO.

question repeats like a broken record many more times.

CO: Why is your BC late registered?

Abby: because my mom thought the midwife was the one who was supposed to file that, but when I needed my BC to register for college, I found out that midwife never filed it. therefore my mom had to file.

CO: I think you are trying to fake your identity. I think you have been married, and will need to get an annulment.

Abby: Ma'am, I've never been married before why should I get an annulment?

Co: You're under oath right now so I suggest that you tell me the truth.

Abby: Yes ma'am, I'm telling the truth.

CO: just tell me the truth and I will approve you case

Abby: I am telling the truth, I have never been married, and I am not faking my identity.

Co: if you submit fake documents you will be banned from ever entering the united states.

Abby: I know that ma'am

Co: just wait in the lobby for your number.

Abby: thank you ma'am.

Needless to say, she was handed a white slip and her passport from window 37. the paper lists several things some of which are not possible.

All old ID's, New NBI with a letter of explanation from the office of NBI. The Office of NBI says that a letter of explanation is only given to criminals or those who have something that needs explanation on the NBI clearance, a smudge or ink spill does not warrant an explanation laughed the lady at the NBI office but she did replace the NBI clearance and even stamped it with the NBI seal.

new Cenomar, Voters affidavit , Hospital records from pregnancy or birth. (not possible either)

So my question is, what should she do about the NBI explanation and the hospital records that do not exist?

Should she write a letter to the embassy explaining that she has never been married nor ever been pregnant? or are these trick questions designed to trip up the people who are trying to commit fraud? She is still too upset or she would be posting this herself.

For one she needs to back up the late BC registration. Needs baptismal certificate and copy of the page in the baptismal book with her name. Also a copy of the cover of the book. School records, work records, SSS, postal Id, Affidavit from hilot [midwife] or anyone that attended her birth.

[DEDixon 39]

I agree with Haole - get an affidavit from not only the midwife, but from as many people as possible (teachers, school principals, college professors, gov't officals).

The list of items they want, they surely know she can't obtain it all so all they are saying is build a case for yourself.

Do we wish document verification was still around? (not sure DV would have helped, but, see, now they have reason to look more closely)

[forever_green 0]

I agree with Haole, too. My brother-in-law was 38 years old when he needed to birth certficate for a job abroad. That was also what his lawyer told him to do. He went back to his province and went to all people who know him since childhoood. He got affidavit and certification from all these people that includes the midwife, his school teachers, his school principal, the parish priest and neighbors. He also presented all school records and all the old IDs he could get.

I think the best thing to do, though, is for the NBI at Cagayan de Oro to certify that what they gave her is a true copy. Giving her another copy without the smudges is not enough. She has to prove to them that she was telling them the truth on the day of the interview.

I am glad that you posted this, at least, I know that abbynorm1 is getting support from you. I met her during the interview. She is a young, nice lady. It doesn't look like she could ever do such a thing. I really feel sorry for her. I believe you'll get over this. God bless you.

[abbynorm1 0]

I am so depressed now. I don't know what to do... Its very frustrating and disappointing....

[sweet_wifey22 0]

I am so depressed now. I don't know what to do... Its very frustrating and disappointing....

Dai, please be strong! everything has a reason. When did you get your NBI clearance? Did you just renewed it?

I got mine too at CDO NBI office I will check it later. You and Your fiance will be fine and will be together.

I am always here for you Gurl!

God Bless and Good Luck!

[Raeka 0]

parang masyado yata silang mahigpit sa mga K-1 noh?

I am so depressed now. I don't know what to do... Its very frustrating and disappointing....

[sweet_wifey22 0]

parang masyado yata silang mahigpit sa mga K-1 noh?

I am so depressed now. I don't know what to do... Its very frustrating and disappointing....

Di naman siguro Sis but the CO is trying to be a ######

[Raeka 0]

natatakot tuloy ako sa interview na yan.. kapag kasi kabado ako halatang halata.. alam ko magkakaproblema ako dun...

parang masyado yata silang mahigpit sa mga K-1 noh?

I am so depressed now. I don't know what to do... Its very frustrating and disappointing....

Di naman siguro Sis but the CO is trying to be a ######

[sweet_wifey22 0]

natatakot tuloy ako sa interview na yan.. kapag kasi kabado ako halatang halata.. alam ko magkakaproblema ako dun...

parang masyado yata silang mahigpit sa mga K-1 noh?

I am so depressed now. I don't know what to do... Its very frustrating and disappointing....

Di naman siguro Sis but the CO is trying to be a ######

Think positive Sis

Kaya natin to.Dapat nating kayanin

[Raeka 0]

Yep! think positive! kawawa na nga asawa ko walang nag aalaga dun!.. Cge! i'll try to think positive... Thanks ha!

natatakot tuloy ako sa interview na yan.. kapag kasi kabado ako halatang halata.. alam ko magkakaproblema ako dun...

parang masyado yata silang mahigpit sa mga K-1 noh?

I am so depressed now. I don't know what to do... Its very frustrating and disappointing....

Di naman siguro Sis but the CO is trying to be a ######

Think positive Sis

Kaya natin to.Dapat nating kayanin

[abbynorm1 0]

I am so depressed now. I don't know what to do... Its very frustrating and disappointing....

Dai, please be strong! everything has a reason. When did you get your NBI clearance? Did you just renewed it?

I got mine too at CDO NBI office I will check it later. You and Your fiance will be fine and will be together.

I am always here for you Gurl!

God Bless and Good Luck!

Thanks gurl!!!

I just renewed my NBI here in CDO. I went at the NBI office yesterday and I asked them to have an explanation letter regarding to the smudges but they told me they wont give an explanation letter because I didnt commit a crime. So, I got a new NBI and they put a sealed on it.

[abbynorm2 0]

I am glad that you posted this, at least, I know that abbynorm1 is getting support from you. I met her during the interview. She is a young, nice lady. It doesn't look like she could ever do such a thing. I really feel sorry for her. I believe you'll get over this. God bless you.

She always has and always will have my love and support. She is upset thinking that she was unable to make it, but I keep telling her that she has not been denied, just delayed a bit. Yes, She is a sweet young lady from way out in the providence of Mindanao, A place I wouldn't mind living.

I would have posted this earlier, but I wanted to wait until she was ready. I think that things like this need to be posted so that others can read about it and be better prepared. I am quite certain that we will get through this, she is the one who is really depressed.

Thanks. Oh, and Congrats on your Visa.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I am so depressed now. I don't know what to do... Its very frustrating and disappointing....

Dai, please be strong! everything has a reason. When did you get your NBI clearance? Did you just renewed it?

I got mine too at CDO NBI office I will check it later. You and Your fiance will be fine and will be together.

I am always here for you Gurl!

God Bless and Good Luck!

Thanks gurl!!!

I just renewed my NBI here in CDO. I went at the NBI office yesterday and I asked them to have an explanation letter regarding to the smudges but they told me they wont give an explanation letter because I didnt commit a crime. So, I got a new NBI and they put a sealed on it.

Did you get something explaining why you don't need a letter of explanation? You don't want to get caught in the middle of two bureaucracies, and make another trip back and forth for nothing.

[Tahoma 2,292]

abbynorm 1 & 2...

We are really sorry to hear about your troubles with the USEM. But, please hang in there...because it is only a temporary delay.

We agree with Haole and DEDixon...all you need to do is build a good case. That is what the Consul Officer is looking for. Don't worry about the things you cannot do...concentrate on what you can do.

Also, thank you for your post. It shows what lengths the USEM will go to in order to cause trouble for honest people.

Our best wishes...

~ Tahoma & Chinook