Fiance to receive gov't assistance and affadavit questions

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It sounds like a co/sub/joint sponsor will be needed. The sponsor needs to prove current income that is sufficient.

Completely incorrect. The question has to do with a K type visa. The use of a co-sponsor is NOT allowed. Check it out yourself before you give this useless advise over & over as you have been doing.

I hope people that read your posts will realise you just dont have a clue & dont seem to care if you are right or not.

This site is about helping people. That may include the ability to remain silent.

While both of us have gone through embassies that do not allow cosponsors on the I-134 there are some that do.

OP did not indicate immigrant's country and should find out if it's possible in their case.

Which Embassys allow the use of the co-sponsor in K 1 cases? I have not seen one person that was allowed to use the co-sponsor. Please post a list of the ones you are sure will allow it. This could help myself & others in the future.

I should have remained silent on this because as you say the OP didnt give enough information. I'll take my own advise & wait to see what you come up with.

I have read some of the other posts & stand corrected & educated on this issue. Sorry to Anh map for my comments.

The process requires the consulate be satisfied that the applicant will not become a public charge. There actually is no "requirement" even for an I-134, only that the CO be satisfied. Co-sponsors are allowed for the AOS once in the USA and most consulates view the I-134 as a "pre-" or "mini" I-864 allowing whatever is allowed for that process. There actually is not "list" of consulates allowing the co-sponsor. They ALL allow it unless they have a consulate specific rule. Someone could compile a list of the consulates that do NOT allow it, I suppose.

If one reads the instructions from the State Dept to the consulates, it allows a wide range of latittude and specifically allows the consulates to assume the intending immigrant will be "self supporting" depending on their skills and education and being of working age. I do not know of any that do this though, simply because it is not specifically allowed for the I-864 (though the immigrants own income and assets can be considered for that process also, but not in a speculative manner).

It is "more correct" to assume a consulate allows co-sponsors rather than assume they do not. The "default" positon is that they are allowed. Also the fact that co-sponsors get mentioned about every third topic, it escapes me that one could think it is a rare thing or get the idea it isn't allowed in most consulates.

[Zee Bee 61]

Which Embassys allow the use of the co-sponsor in K 1 cases? I have not seen one person that was allowed to use the co-sponsor. Please post a list of the ones you are sure will allow it. This could help myself & others in the future.

I should have remained silent on this because as you say the OP didnt give enough information. I'll take my own advise & wait to see what you come up with.

I have read some of the other posts & stand corrected & educated on this issue. Sorry to Anh map for my comments.

A lot of the Subsaharan Africa and MENA countries allow cosponsors. I cannot think of a case where someone who presented a cosponsor was rejected. There were a few cases (Ghana and Gambia come to my mind right now) where a cosponsor was actually required by the CO before visa issuance.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Which Embassys allow the use of the co-sponsor in K 1 cases? I have not seen one person that was allowed to use the co-sponsor. Please post a list of the ones you are sure will allow it. This could help myself & others in the future.

I should have remained silent on this because as you say the OP didnt give enough information. I'll take my own advise & wait to see what you come up with.

I have read some of the other posts & stand corrected & educated on this issue. Sorry to Anh map for my comments.

A lot of the Subsaharan Africa and MENA countries allow cosponsors. I cannot think of a case where someone who presented a cosponsor was rejected. There were a few cases (Ghana and Gambia come to my mind right now) where a cosponsor was actually required by the CO before visa issuance.

From the Dept of State, Foreign Affairs Manual, volume 9, visas

From9 FAM 41.81 PN2 EVIDENCE OF SUPPORT

(TL:VISA-377; 03-20-2002)

A K visa applicant and any accompanying children must meet the public

charge requirement of INA 212(a)(15) like any other visa applicant.

Evidence of support is usually requested by the consular officer. There is,

however, no absolute requirement that an affidavit of support or other public

charge documentation be presented. It is only necessary that the consular

officer be able to conclude that the alien is not likely to become a public

charge. It would not be unusual, therefore, for a healthy alien of working

age, applying alone, to be able to establish eligibility during the visa

interview without the need for substantiating documentation. the US Dept of State Foreign Affairs Manual, Volume 9, Visas

The rules not only do not prohibit a co-sponsor, they do not even require a sponsor! Any further restrictions are on a consulate basis, applying what they believe to be necessary, again, usually following the lead of the USCIS guides for the AOS. In other words, unles specifically prohibited, a co-sponsor is allowed.

[pushbrk 13,124]

It sounds like a co/sub/joint sponsor will be needed. The sponsor needs to prove current income that is sufficient.

Completely incorrect. The question has to do with a K type visa. The use of a co-sponsor is NOT allowed. Check it out yourself before you give this useless advise over & over as you have been doing.

I hope people that read your posts will realise you just dont have a clue & dont seem to care if you are right or not.

This site is about helping people. That may include the ability to remain silent.

While both of us have gone through embassies that do not allow cosponsors on the I-134 there are some that do.

OP did not indicate immigrant's country and should find out if it's possible in their case.

Which Embassys allow the use of the co-sponsor in K 1 cases? I have not seen one person that was allowed to use the co-sponsor. Please post a list of the ones you are sure will allow it. This could help myself & others in the future.

I should have remained silent on this because as you say the OP didnt give enough information. I'll take my own advise & wait to see what you come up with.

I have read some of the other posts & stand corrected & educated on this issue. Sorry to Anh map for my comments.

The list of Conslates or Embassies where co-sponsors for K visas is a problem is quite short but might become longer. At the moment, I can think of only Bangkok where there is a firm "no" but I've seen many cases in Manila and HCMC where co-sponsors were rejected. As far as I know, all other Embassies and Conslutes will accept and consider a co-sponsor's I-134.

[Anh map 2,098]

For what it's worth, Ricker and I PM'd and everything is OK. VJ is such a passionate place and we all want to give the best info possible.

With the economy where it is these days there will undoubtedly be more last minute scrambles for co/joint sponsorship. Here's hoping that isnt the thing that keeps legit couples & families from being together as soon as possible.

[Boiler 46,141]

Which Embassys allow the use of the co-sponsor in K 1 cases? I have not seen one person that was allowed to use the co-sponsor. Please post a list of the ones you are sure will allow it. This could help myself & others in the future.

I should have remained silent on this because as you say the OP didnt give enough information. I'll take my own advise & wait to see what you come up with.

I have read some of the other posts & stand corrected & educated on this issue. Sorry to Anh map for my comments.

I self sponsored, no US sponsor or co-sponsor.

So that may be possible as well, but we do not know which Consulate is involved.

Edited April 3, 2009 by Boiler

[layne 0]

I emailed the consulate, and I thought I would post the reply here for other people who were wondering about it:

To qualify, you must demonstrate to the consular officer's satisfaction that you will not become a public charge. That is, evidence of your income, bank statements, properties, investments, etc. The Form I-134, Affidavit of Support, may be required when the consular officer deems it useful. If necessary, you can also find co-sponsors to support your case.

K visa unit

Vancouver, Canada

Thanks for all the help, guys!

[Old Dominion 26]

If the OP's boyfriend is filing for health-related disability (due to depression), the Social Security Admininistration can take a long time to decide on the application. Unlike a debilitating physical condition, it is so difficult to prove beyond doubt that a depressed person is incapable of working. If the two of you are intent on marrying, then there is no reason not to begin the I-129 petition and get the ball rolling. No financial information is needed now.

Many months from now, the question of financial support will need to be answered -- and cosponsors are certainly welcome at most embassies. So there is ample time to work out this question.