For any of you who have gotten citizenship

[Married_my_love 0]

Maybe someone can help me to understand this. My DH and I are discussing the whole citizenship thing. I found this information on a site about dual citizenship:

Newly naturalized citizens in some (but not all) countries are required to renounce their previous citizenship(s); the US has such a requirement, for example, but Canada does not. And in some (but, again, not all) cases, a country will automatically revoke the citizenship of one of its citizens who acquires another country's citizenship by naturalization, even if no explicit renunciation was involved.

We are interested in going for the citizenship because it would remove my brother from the whole sponsorship thing (and we kind of told him that we would do that asap to relieve him of that obligation). But my Canadian is not interested in denouncing Canada! Will they actually have him say he is doing so? and what does that mean exactly? He is no longer Canadian?

Sorry if these seem like really dumb questions, but we are not that excited of the prospect of him not being a Canadian... and we had always thought (until I read that above) that he would have dual citizenship.

help me to understand this, thanks.

[trailmix 77]

He can have dual Canadian/American citizenship - it is as simple as that.

Edited April 2, 2009 by trailmix

[Kathryn41 3,205]

While the US Citizenship Oath carries the statement to the effect that the person renounces other citizenship, in effect the US cannot take away his Canadian citizenship. The only way for a Canadian to lose Canadian citizenship is by filling out a specific paper application for citizenship renunciation and submitting it to Citizenship and Immigration Canada. Verbally stating the renunciation in a citizenship ceremony for another country does not negate Canadian citizenship. Canada recognizes dual citizenship. It allows its citizens to be citizens of other countries at the same time. United States does not officially recognize dual citizenship but unofficially they do because they can't really do much about it. They basically just don't recognize that someone is also a citizen of another country since they have no way to enforce renunciation. When you are in the US, you are a US citizen, period, regardless of how many other countries you are a citizen. So, your Canadian will still be your Canadian even after he becomes your American.

[Emancipation 2]

I fully plan on crossing my fingers when & if I take the oath

[Flames9_RN 358]

I wore Canadian Socks to my oath ceremony!! lol!! People ask I stil say I'm Canadian, never bring up the fact that I now have USA citizenship. 100% Cdn!

[WalkonWildSide 0]

A question that gets asked very often about dual citizenship. It is a crazy case of it depends on the situation...

FACT: The USA can not revoke your citizenship from other countries.

Doesn't matter what oaths you agree to in the USA.

Although the USA can revoke your USA citizenship if as a USC you actively solicit citizenship in another country.

EXAMPLE:USC citizen obtains citizenship in another country. The actions of the USC or the governmental policies are contrary to the USA, the USA can revoke the USC passport. -- Extremely rare, but it has happened.

EXAMPLE: If you have USC and while traveling in a foreign country you travel on a non-USA passport. You commit a felony in that country. The USA can decide if they want to help or not. Most likely the USA will not help you. You are the other countries problem.

EXAMPLE: As a naturalized USA citizen you do not actively participate under USA's laws and borders. i.e. you don't maintain a residence in the USA for extended period of time, you commit espionage, you fail to file or pay USA taxes, etc... The USA can view such actions as abandonment and revoke your passport.

It is extremely rare for a USC to lose his citizenship but it can happen.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

I fully plan on crossing my fingers when & if I take the oath

Oh, I like this. I'll do this too!

[warlord 73]

Yep I'm fully US and Canadian right now. Never once yet heard of anyone going through all the process to actually denounce their Canadian citizenship or why anyone would even bother to do that since Canada will never force you to do so.

At my oath, I considered myself American and American only now, however, Canada will always claim me as theirs still. Not my problem they still want to think that ha ha.

On the good news, I can travel and work freely in either country whenever I want now without any worries.

Now if you were from Germany or Peru or India for instance, then you would have to give up your citizenship for the US one as neither of those nations will allow you to take on a foreign citizenship. I don't hear too much complaints about Germans or Peruvians on it, but the Indians are always conflicted because most their families live in India still and many own property still and want to go back to work etc. Which once they take the US oath, they no longer will be able to without obtaining a Indian work visa like the rest of us.

Still, I have yet to hear anyone that has actually gone through with denouncing their Canadian citizenship legally. I couldn't care less about it, but I'm not going to bother myself doing that though. I'll just keep both since they don't mind...

[Flames9_RN 358]

Yep I'm fully US and Canadian right now. Never once yet heard of anyone going through all the process to actually denounce their Canadian citizenship or why anyone would even bother to do that since Canada will never force you to do so.

At my oath, I considered myself American and American only now, however, Canada will always claim me as theirs still. Not my problem they still want to think that ha ha.

On the good news, I can travel and work freely in either country whenever I want now without any worries.

Now if you were from Germany or Peru or India for instance, then you would have to give up your citizenship for the US one as neither of those nations will allow you to take on a foreign citizenship. I don't hear too much complaints about Germans or Peruvians on it, but the Indians are always conflicted because most their families live in India still and many own property still and want to go back to work etc. Which once they take the US oath, they no longer will be able to without obtaining a Indian work visa like the rest of us.

Still, I have yet to hear anyone that has actually gone through with denouncing their Canadian citizenship legally. I couldn't care less about it, but I'm not going to bother myself doing that though. I'll just keep both since they don't mind...

Just curious Warlord, why do you hang out in the Canada forum if you don't consider urself Canadian?

[DeadPoolX 9]

Yep I'm fully US and Canadian right now. Never once yet heard of anyone going through all the process to actually denounce their Canadian citizenship or why anyone would even bother to do that since Canada will never force you to do so.

At my oath, I considered myself American and American only now, however, Canada will always claim me as theirs still. Not my problem they still want to think that ha ha.

On the good news, I can travel and work freely in either country whenever I want now without any worries.

Now if you were from Germany or Peru or India for instance, then you would have to give up your citizenship for the US one as neither of those nations will allow you to take on a foreign citizenship. I don't hear too much complaints about Germans or Peruvians on it, but the Indians are always conflicted because most their families live in India still and many own property still and want to go back to work etc. Which once they take the US oath, they no longer will be able to without obtaining a Indian work visa like the rest of us.

Still, I have yet to hear anyone that has actually gone through with denouncing their Canadian citizenship legally. I couldn't care less about it, but I'm not going to bother myself doing that though. I'll just keep both since they don't mind...

Just curious Warlord, why do you hang out in the Canada forum if you don't consider urself Canadian?

I'm not Canadian and yet, like a persistent itch that refuses to go away, I remain here.

[Reeena 0]

That itch you are talking about...... it must be contagious... LOL

[Married_my_love 0]

I wore Canadian Socks to my oath ceremony!! lol!! People ask I stil say I'm Canadian, never bring up the fact that I now have USA citizenship. 100% Cdn!

I hate the term 'laugh out loud' as it is overused, but I did, really, literally just laugh out loud when I read your post.

Ok, I get it, so he's taking the oath but it doesn't mean it erases his Cdn citizenship. Thanks for clearing this up!!

[SomberCat 0]

Yep I'm fully US and Canadian right now. Never once yet heard of anyone going through all the process to actually denounce their Canadian citizenship or why anyone would even bother to do that since Canada will never force you to do so.

At my oath, I considered myself American and American only now, however, Canada will always claim me as theirs still. Not my problem they still want to think that ha ha.

On the good news, I can travel and work freely in either country whenever I want now without any worries.

Now if you were from Germany or Peru or India for instance, then you would have to give up your citizenship for the US one as neither of those nations will allow you to take on a foreign citizenship. I don't hear too much complaints about Germans or Peruvians on it, but the Indians are always conflicted because most their families live in India still and many own property still and want to go back to work etc. Which once they take the US oath, they no longer will be able to without obtaining a Indian work visa like the rest of us.

Still, I have yet to hear anyone that has actually gone through with denouncing their Canadian citizenship legally. I couldn't care less about it, but I'm not going to bother myself doing that though. I'll just keep both since they don't mind...

Just curious Warlord, why do you hang out in the Canada forum if you don't consider urself Canadian?

I'm not Canadian, but hang out in here because my husband is and I love it. I know that one day my husband will go through the process and become an American citizen, but in his heart, he will always be Canadian and I think that's wonderful. Flames9, I LOVE it that you wore Canadian socks to the ceremony. That is awesome!! I can see my husband doing the same... although he would do something even more hilarious like wear undies with maple leafs on them or something. Quite frankly, if the US wanted him to denounce his Canadian citizenship (which I know they don't), he wouldn't do it and I wouldn't let him anyway. He will always be the Canadian boy from Nova Scotia that I love no matter what citizenship papers say.

[Ban Hammer 13,481]

denounce canada!

that happens all the time in ot

[Flames9_RN 358]

I was goin gto wear my Hockey Night in canada Shirt, but figured that may be a bit over board,lol