I-129F at VSC? Notice how it's only CSC folks writing "OMG approved in 30 days?"

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I'm happy for all the people at the CSC people who have had their I-129Fs approved in 30 some days, but honestly it's not fair that things are significantly slower at the VSC. Regardless of whatever the situation was a year ago, according to the VisaJourney statistics, VSC is now at least 2 months behind CSC and that disparity is continuing to grow. Everyone has the right to equal treatment and we all paid the same amount for the service.

It's clear that USCIS does not care about this disparity, so it's time to tell their boss that they're screwing up big time. I filed a report today with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Office of Inspector General and recommend you do the same, if you're in the same boat. The Inspector General is charged with investigating, among other things, cases of mismanagement at any of the agencies under the DHS, including USCIS. Who knows if anything will come of it, but the people answering the phone were a thousand times more responsive than those at USCIS. Maybe if enough people call who are fed up with the disparity between the VSC and the CSC, we'll see some balancing of the processing times.

The Office of Inspector General can be reached at (800)323-8603. You have to wait for a few minutes for information to be automatically given by a recorded voice, but follow the prompts to report a case of mismanagement and you'll actually get to talk to a human being. Then just explain to them the imbalance between processing times at VSC and CSC and you're done.

Good luck guys!

Just a little information in addition. The Office of Inspector General is NOT the "boss" of the USCIS. They are an independent department that, among other things, investigates wrong doing by government agencies. That VSC is running slower than CSC is of absolutley NO CONCERN to the OIG unless it is for reasons within their jusidiction. If you start a stampede of phone calls from visa petitioners who are just whining that "this is not fair" you WILL close down that route. Yes you will get a real live person to talk to, but unless you give documented evidence of wrongdoing they are being polite not to hang up on you and it will do nothing.

So my advice to Vjers...do NOT call the OIG unless you have evidence that there is something happening at VSC that is within their realm to do something about. You cannot just say "VSC is slow" You would need to document that it is caused by "mismanagement", and that means, negligent mismanagement, not just the usual government SNAFUS, or by some fraudulent or illegal means. The OIG is NOT their boss, I repeat. The Secretary of Homeland Security, and the President, eventually, is their boss. The OIG is, basically, the "Internal Affairs" department.

[Danu 19]

^^ What he said. Its not CSC vs VSC people. The people who have the right to complain is anyone taking longer than 6 months to hear back. There is one poor member here who has been waiting a year and a half, she has a right to complain. VSC processing 2 months behind CSC but still within the 6 month time frame, no, you don't. If you base your info on the VJ timelines, VSC is taking twice the amount of petitions so it makes sense they are a little slower. Not fair, but as I'm sure you have heard last year it was the other way around. People vented then too but if every time one's time goes up and the other goes down everyone starts storming the doors all you will have is ahuge fiasco of transferring from one place to another every few months. Oh and theres still people in the December line at CSC as well who havent gotten RFE's or NOA2's, so its not like everyone is done and they went on. Those people are frusterated too seeing the Feb filers get their notices, but they don't make posts like yours. You have posted so many times about this subject and all you are doing is making the people who get theirs faster feel upset, and there is nothing they can do about it. Just like this suggestion won't help speed things up at VSC, they can't ask CSC to slow down. Would I mind an extra month wait to catch VSC up? Not at all, I would love for the 2 to be more equal, but I do find your posts repetitive and unnecessary.

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^^ What he said. Its not CSC vs VSC people. The people who have the right to complain is anyone taking longer than 6 months to hear back. There is one poor member here who has been waiting a year and a half, she has a right to complain. VSC processing 2 months behind CSC but still within the 6 month time frame, no, you don't. If you base your info on the VJ timelines, VSC is taking twice the amount of petitions so it makes sense they are a little slower. Not fair, but as I'm sure you have heard last year it was the other way around. People vented then too but if every time one's time goes up and the other goes down everyone starts storming the doors all you will have is ahuge fiasco of transferring from one place to another every few months. Oh and theres still people in the December line at CSC as well who havent gotten RFE's or NOA2's, so its not like everyone is done and they went on. Those people are frusterated too seeing the Feb filers get their notices, but they don't make posts like yours. You have posted so many times about this subject and all you are doing is making the people who get theirs faster feel upset, and there is nothing they can do about it. Just like this suggestion won't help speed things up at VSC, they can't ask CSC to slow down. Would I mind an extra month wait to catch VSC up? Not at all, I would love for the 2 to be more equal, but I do find your posts repetitive and unnecessary.

Danu, please see the title of the OP. It does not concern you.

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I'm happy for all the people at the CSC people who have had their I-129Fs approved in 30 some days, but honestly it's not fair that things are significantly slower at the VSC. Regardless of whatever the situation was a year ago, according to the VisaJourney statistics, VSC is now at least 2 months behind CSC and that disparity is continuing to grow. Everyone has the right to equal treatment and we all paid the same amount for the service.

It's clear that USCIS does not care about this disparity, so it's time to tell their boss that they're screwing up big time. I filed a report today with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Office of Inspector General and recommend you do the same, if you're in the same boat. The Inspector General is charged with investigating, among other things, cases of mismanagement at any of the agencies under the DHS, including USCIS. Who knows if anything will come of it, but the people answering the phone were a thousand times more responsive than those at USCIS. Maybe if enough people call who are fed up with the disparity between the VSC and the CSC, we'll see some balancing of the processing times.

The Office of Inspector General can be reached at (800)323-8603. You have to wait for a few minutes for information to be automatically given by a recorded voice, but follow the prompts to report a case of mismanagement and you'll actually get to talk to a human being. Then just explain to them the imbalance between processing times at VSC and CSC and you're done.

Good luck guys!

Just a little information in addition. The Office of Inspector General is NOT the "boss" of the USCIS. They are an independent department that, among other things, investigates wrong doing by government agencies. That VSC is running slower than CSC is of absolutley NO CONCERN to the OIG unless it is for reasons within their jusidiction. If you start a stampede of phone calls from visa petitioners who are just whining that "this is not fair" you WILL close down that route. Yes you will get a real live person to talk to, but unless you give documented evidence of wrongdoing they are being polite not to hang up on you and it will do nothing.

So my advice to Vjers...do NOT call the OIG unless you have evidence that there is something happening at VSC that is within their realm to do something about. You cannot just say "VSC is slow" You would need to document that it is caused by "mismanagement", and that means, negligent mismanagement, not just the usual government SNAFUS, or by some fraudulent or illegal means. The OIG is NOT their boss, I repeat. The Secretary of Homeland Security, and the President, eventually, is their boss. The OIG is, basically, the "Internal Affairs" department.

I recognize that most people would prefer to just leave the bureaucrats to themselves, but I am sincerely interested in seeing a greater level of "fairness" in the I-129F processing. I don't think any of the personal attacks were necessary, I'm really just trying to reach out to other VSC I-129F filers who are interested in developing a way to connect with the people managing the processing and see if we can realize any improvements.

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Also, I know that the OIG is not the boss of the USCIS thank you, but I don't currently have Janet Napolitano's number, so the best I could think of was to connect with the OIG.

[fahadj 0]

I don't understand why people are being so aggressive in their responses to the OP, and many comments are uncalled for. Let him do what he's trying to do, if he feels it's right, then who are we to judge it. You can share your opinion, and then people can make up their own minds on how things should work. And if it's so wrong, then maybe an administrator should warn him to stop posting, but other users have no right to tell him to shut up. I suffered through VSC for approval for over 8 months for a K3, and I know it's timeline is different then a K1, but I can see how it can be frustrating. And now I have no idea how long we'll have to wait with the embassy. Even some of the I-130s are getting approved so fast, like the 13 day approval following NOA1 someone posted about recently. I mean, it's awesome for them, but gosh darn it, it's just not fair. I know the life's not fair, but that doesn't mean we should bend over and take it.

It's easier to say "chill out" when you aren't the one having to wait. Actually it's kind of offensive. I mean, saying "I can understand all of this can be so frustrating, but we don't always know all the factors. Try and be patient, try not to let it consume your life, and hopefully things will work out" would convey the same message as chill out and not be offensive.

The guy who responded by saying "has your wife seen that side of your character" or something, gosh, that's just in really mean spirit...

[AlanM 1]

Who said life is fair?

From what I saw during the timelines, CSC was the one way behind VSC.

Depends on the number of applications probably. In fact, they are shipping some petitions to CSC.

Good luck on your campaign!

Then you cannot read the timelines ... VSC is far behind CSC and also those who applied at VSC in 1Q2009 and getting approvals quicker than those who applied in 4Q2008.

[edin-gal 0]

Things change!

When I did my first K1 people {me also} were cussing CSC as VSC was whipping out K1s in a month. CSC was taking 6 months. Either the center of population moved or ???

Longer the better as maybe K1s will get to know their mates better and not end up dealing with the government again hoping their divorce goes thru quickier!!

Such a stupid comment. You think someone makes the decision to marry (and thus apply CR-1/K3) more lightly than someone who decides to do K1?

I agree. I lived with my SO for 3 years before starting this process. He went back to the States and we decided that the K1 would be the best way to do things. We didn't jump straight into it thinking it would be an easy ride! Oh and I would say that we know each other 'pretty well'.

As for the original topic - I understand the frustration when you see one centre is working faster than the other. Let people who get their NOA2 in 15 days celebrate (albeit through gritted teeth ) and celebrate with those that get approved after 200+ days. If it makes you feel like you are doing something by contacting people to complain - then do it!

I for one am planning on getting a job for USCIS and ruling it from within

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I for one am planning on getting a job for USCIS and ruling it from within

You have the right hat for it.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

The guy who responded by saying "has your wife seen that side of your character" or something, gosh, that's just in really mean spirit...

That was me. I can assure you if my wife thought her future husband's solution to problems was attempting to start a telephone barage on an office not involved with the process rather than doing productive, clever research, and utilizing the "downtime" to prepare everything else needed for our case ....well, it may affect her decision who to marry and it is something a fiancee should know. It was a valid question.

I do know one man that got almost immediate approval of his case by contacting the OIG, however he documented evidence of administrative wrongdoing which came under the realm of the OIG and it took more than a phone call to accomplish. If they listened and hung up they were just being polite. When the OIG is interested the phone call is likely to be immediately followed up by other action, most likely beginning with the faxing of evidence

[SuperDuper! 230]

I'm happy for all the people at the CSC people who have had their I-129Fs approved in 30 some days, but honestly it's not fair that things are significantly slower at the VSC. Regardless of whatever the situation was a year ago, according to the VisaJourney statistics, VSC is now at least 2 months behind CSC and that disparity is continuing to grow. Everyone has the right to equal treatment and we all paid the same amount for the service.

It's clear that USCIS does not care about this disparity, so it's time to tell their boss that they're screwing up big time. I filed a report today with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Office of Inspector General and recommend you do the same, if you're in the same boat. The Inspector General is charged with investigating, among other things, cases of mismanagement at any of the agencies under the DHS, including USCIS. Who knows if anything will come of it, but the people answering the phone were a thousand times more responsive than those at USCIS. Maybe if enough people call who are fed up with the disparity between the VSC and the CSC, we'll see some balancing of the processing times.

The Office of Inspector General can be reached at (800)323-8603. You have to wait for a few minutes for information to be automatically given by a recorded voice, but follow the prompts to report a case of mismanagement and you'll actually get to talk to a human being. Then just explain to them the imbalance between processing times at VSC and CSC and you're done.

Good luck guys!

So California is finally doing something right, and you are complaining about it?? #######?! Boo Hoo!

Edited April 2, 2009 by itzallgood

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Who said life is fair?

From what I saw during the timelines, CSC was the one way behind VSC.

Depends on the number of applications probably. In fact, they are shipping some petitions to CSC.

Good luck on your campaign!

Then you cannot read the timelines ... VSC is far behind CSC and also those who applied at VSC in 1Q2009 and getting approvals quicker than those who applied in 4Q2008.

Now, documenting that, preferably with the USCIS's own documentation, which would violate their stated policies and further documenting false information given to you by department officials, now THAT would be something OIG could act on. Calling and saying "I have been waiting a long time" is worthless. The OIG is concerend with negligent mismanagement (not the usual gov't type of mismanagement) and intentional falsifications and corruption, etc.

[Justin.IraLove 0]

Its been 2 weeks since I got my NOA1 with VSC and im pretty pissed off i havent got my NOA2 yet, I totally blam it on CSC!! Im tired of waiting like omg.. lol..

Psst... you wont remember all the waiting this time next year, just breathe! (thats what i tell myself, lol)

Edited April 2, 2009 by Justin.IraLove

[baron555 934]

The original poster would be singing a different tune if their petition was approved in 30 days, right??? !!!

And, The government should be fair? Yea, right !!! I know many governments that wouldn't give a hoot about the individual.

[haleywynne 0]

From a different perspective of a VSC filer right now...

My NOA1 at VSC was 2/26. Yes, I noticed CSC are getting theirs from February like now, but I'm not gonna whine about it by making a thread. From what I read, sometimes VSC is faster and sometimes CSC is faster. This time around, I just happened to get the unlucky side lol.

Until then, yeah I'll be sad and jealous and regrettably happy for those lucky ones who are are CSC right now! But, we all miss our loved ones and that's why were on this forum together.

Patience is a virtue.