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This is a lengthy process. He will have to work down there...I think it is the physician you are seeing. These papers are the for the waiver. You won't need them for the initial filling. My lawyer wanted 2500 to write the waiver. I told him to take a hike.

i am not seeing a dr here yet, but i am on the look. i need to find a dr that speaks english obviously....i am hoping we will be able to be back in the states within 2yrs but im not sure that is possible............one lawyer we talked to wanted 7000 just to touch the case!! very messy..........he has paid his other lawyer around 6000 and she hasnt done anything for him!!! so we will probably contact her a few times but other then that i think we will have to do this alone.......scarey....we are in a sticky situation and we were even told by some that there were no waivers, no chances for him to ever come back......the deportation officer told him there were.......he has a 10yr ban, i am not ready to live here 10yrs......so lets hope this waiver works!! Thanks again. Good luck with everything you are going thru and thanks for answering me, at least i knw im not alone it is helpful knwing that

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May 30 08-Baby Joshua was born

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First make sure you have all the papers you need and your application fee with you. Check and make sure you have everything filled out correctly. You are going to go in and give them the papers. They will look over them and most likely ( or at least that is the norm) tell you that they will call you for an appointment. If you ask them about how long that will be, you are going to get different answers from different people. Honestly, the time it will take varies. They might or might not take fingure prints that day. Make sure you have that fee also, incase they do. Just keep this in mind, the embassy in lebanon is better then most. You shouldn't wait there that long.

Your filling from lebanon. You probably won't need the I-129f. That for is for your husband to come to the US and wait with you while his file is being processed.

Once you drop off the papers, Get the I-601 and I-212 Forms filled out and ready. Wright your Hardship letter and get your proof together. Once you have the interview, they will tell you that you need to fill out these forms. You can hand them at that time the Waivers with all the evidence. These will be sent to Athens. (I'm still waiting on mine to be sent. It has been over 2 weeks) Athens Sorry to say drags its feet. This whole process will probably take about one year and 3 months to a year and half.

So it is impossible for the k3 to be approved for dh because he was removed and needs a waiver?? i wish we could just go back to the us while all of this is processed...........none of the people at the embassy speak very good english that i have had expirence with so far, and i dont speak arabic so i struggle a little, because i dont want dh to do all the talking and for them to think this is all for him............he had been fingerprinted while he was in the states, he has to do it again i guess.........is there a form for that? do we have to file both the 212 and 601?? we are willing to do anything and i am really hoping it doesnt take too awful long. i have a son from a previous marriege and his dad wnt let him come to be with me..........i miss him and i cant be away frm him for so long.......with all the fees we are paying for uscis it is impossible for me to travel back and forth right now..............will they take into consideration that i am here with him?? i am on a mult entry visa and since we didnt register the marriege at the leb con in ny we have to get it signed by the foriegn minister and sent there before i can apply for residency here..........yikes lol...........this is all so much. the change of everything and all this pressure. dh and i are together i understand that is important but i miss the states and my family :( thank you again

there is nothing stopping you from coming to the USA. you just cant bring your husband with you. depending on how long you been out of the country < 11 months or more > you will have other possible issues such as domicile issues. - so you really need the advise of an attorney. no one on VJ is qualified to give you advise in lu of having legal consultation. your case is very complexed

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Best site is www.immigrate2us.net for waivers, and when thinking of moving countries you need to consider which would allow you entry.

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First make sure you have all the papers you need and your application fee with you. Check and make sure you have everything filled out correctly. You are going to go in and give them the papers. They will look over them and most likely ( or at least that is the norm) tell you that they will call you for an appointment. If you ask them about how long that will be, you are going to get different answers from different people. Honestly, the time it will take varies. They might or might not take fingure prints that day. Make sure you have that fee also, incase they do. Just keep this in mind, the embassy in lebanon is better then most. You shouldn't wait there that long.

Your filling from lebanon. You probably won't need the I-129f. That for is for your husband to come to the US and wait with you while his file is being processed.

Once you drop off the papers, Get the I-601 and I-212 Forms filled out and ready. Wright your Hardship letter and get your proof together. Once you have the interview, they will tell you that you need to fill out these forms. You can hand them at that time the Waivers with all the evidence. These will be sent to Athens. (I'm still waiting on mine to be sent. It has been over 2 weeks) Athens Sorry to say drags its feet. This whole process will probably take about one year and 3 months to a year and half.

So it is impossible for the k3 to be approved for dh because he was removed and needs a waiver?? i wish we could just go back to the us while all of this is processed...........none of the people at the embassy speak very good english that i have had expirence with so far, and i dont speak arabic so i struggle a little, because i dont want dh to do all the talking and for them to think this is all for him............he had been fingerprinted while he was in the states, he has to do it again i guess.........is there a form for that? do we have to file both the 212 and 601?? we are willing to do anything and i am really hoping it doesnt take too awful long. i have a son from a previous marriege and his dad wnt let him come to be with me..........i miss him and i cant be away frm him for so long.......with all the fees we are paying for uscis it is impossible for me to travel back and forth right now..............will they take into consideration that i am here with him?? i am on a mult entry visa and since we didnt register the marriege at the leb con in ny we have to get it signed by the foriegn minister and sent there before i can apply for residency here..........yikes lol...........this is all so much. the change of everything and all this pressure. dh and i are together i understand that is important but i miss the states and my family :( thank you again

there is nothing stopping you from coming to the USA. you just cant bring your husband with you. depending on how long you been out of the country < 11 months or more > you will have other possible issues such as domicile issues. - so you really need the advise of an attorney. no one on VJ is qualified to give you advise in lu of having legal consultation. your case is very complexed

We are in contact with his immigration attorney that he was using during removal. she is assisting us with some of the steps.......yes i can go back to the usa anytime i want i am a USC have been all my life, born and raised. but that isnt my problem, while i dont want to be away from my family and friends, i cant be away from my husband! ive only been out of the country for 1mth and like 2 days so far.

Best site is www.immigrate2us.net for waivers, and when thinking of moving countries you need to consider which would allow you entry.

yes i am a member of that site too.

June 11 05-Married George, civil ceremony in New York

May 30 08-Baby Joshua was born

Jan 15-Back to NY we go...

May 10-made decision not to go back overseas.

July 10-filed for divorce

Jan 11-Divorce final

July 11-1st trip to take Josh to see George

Mar 12-2nd trip to take Josh to see George

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You arent doing your 601 waiver case any good by living in Leb. They are going to ask where is the hardship if you are living together. Hardships are supposed to based upon why it is a hardship for you to leave the US and live in the foreign country. Appartently there is no hardship if you are able to do exactly that.

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You arent doing your 601 waiver case any good by living in Leb. They are going to ask where is the hardship if you are living together. Hardships are supposed to based upon why it is a hardship for you to leave the US and live in the foreign country. Appartently there is no hardship if you are able to do exactly that.

There are plenty of USC spouses that go to be with their allien spouse during this! I have a child in the us from my first marriage and his father WILL NOT let me take him out of the country. I have a lot of other factors wrking for me. It isnt all about being together or seperate, its about the fact that I CANTT live in this country, and i cant be away from my husband and i also cant be without my family, and a language that i can understand, and things im used to, and health care that is up to standards expected by americans........a lot of other things play a role........if i werent with him they may ask if we are really in a loving commited marriage because of his other issues, i am with him however and i love him, and i am willing to do anything

June 11 05-Married George, civil ceremony in New York

May 30 08-Baby Joshua was born

Jan 15-Back to NY we go...

May 10-made decision not to go back overseas.

July 10-filed for divorce

Jan 11-Divorce final

July 11-1st trip to take Josh to see George

Mar 12-2nd trip to take Josh to see George

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Desert fox has a point. normally the hardship has to deal with YOU.

you being with him is not a hardhip. even if you were pregante its not a hardship. you also living in LEB is also gonna make your case more complexed- like I said you could have potental have domicile issues.

one thing they asked me at my interview < USC> they asked me what would I do. if I had to live in my husbands country - if he was denied his visa. - I told them I would not get a job and I did not speak URDU life would be hard. the point is.. you are already establishing that you would not have a problem living in LEB. so think this though and dont make your case more complex. you realize its gonna already take a year at the least to sort this out.

see how many waivers are comming out of LEB and how long it took.

its taken us 1 year.

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Desert fox has a point. normally the hardship has to deal with YOU.

you being with him is not a hardhip. even if you were pregante its not a hardship. you also living in LEB is also gonna make your case more complexed- like I said you could have potental have domicile issues.

one thing they asked me at my interview < USC> they asked me what would I do. if I had to live in my husbands country - if he was denied his visa. - I told them I would not get a job and I did not speak URDU life would be hard. the point is.. you are already establishing that you would not have a problem living in LEB. so think this though and dont make your case more complex. you realize its gonna already take a year at the least to sort this out.

see how many waivers are comming out of LEB and how long it took.

its taken us 1 year.

But you see i DO have a problem living here, a VERY BIG problem, i so dont want to be here, i want to be home in the United States, with my son and with my husband! I am seeking physc help because of all this and what it is doing to me..........I have read on the other site that USCIS doesnt even need to know i am living here............and some say it doesnt affect the outcome of the waiver..........we know it is going to be a lengthy process but that cant mean that we shouldnt try.........................what do you mean domicile issues? i am not pregnant at this point in the process but if i were to become that way there are alot of points around that, such as the hospital care here is expensive and the income is maybe 300-500 usd a mth, that isnt enough for anything, and the way of life isnt standard! The country is at a state of unrest and possible war could occur anytime because of all the tension between religions and other parties. it is hard for me to comphrehend being away from my husband, i didnt get married to him to be seperated from him! his lawyer is telling us that with her help we can work this thru and hopefully see the us in abut 2yrs or so, at least that isnt telling us flat out no way or that it will be 10 years

June 11 05-Married George, civil ceremony in New York

May 30 08-Baby Joshua was born

Jan 15-Back to NY we go...

May 10-made decision not to go back overseas.

July 10-filed for divorce

Jan 11-Divorce final

July 11-1st trip to take Josh to see George

Mar 12-2nd trip to take Josh to see George

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The fact that the middle east right now is unstable is a major point working for you. There really isn't much waivers on this site or the other going through Athens and my case is the only other case going through lebanon. The thing with waivers is that they say that seperation is not a harpship so basically we have to pray that the person that makes the decision has a heart.

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if this is was a typical no drama case. the typical wait would have been possible 1 year. because of all the AR/AP those men comming from islamic nations normally face in the name of required "security checks".

some people can get thought it a little faster. those are people who pretty much have a normal case. this varies deponding on the embassy.. BUTTT.. your CASES... uhmmm

the factors working against you..

1. if you stay with your husband in a country for 11 months or more.

you MUST prove domicile. if you cant you just added alot of time to the WAIT you will face.

a ) you have NO job.

B) you need to have a Co SPonser.

c) the USICS already need 3 years W-2 from YOU and CO sponser.

d) this co sponser must make enough income for YOU , HUBBY and CHILD. not to mention the CO sponsers family. < this is a very hard task >

2. your husband is from islamic country. that right there is a requirement for ADMIN REVIEW can take 19 days to ENDLESS. I have seen people be on it for as long as 2 years.

3. the fact you have a waiver. add another possible year. you cant begin to get that even considerd til after the interview.

a) you applying the waivers. uhmm

4. involving another country- add MORE time to the mix.

like i said YOU need an immigration attorney your case is very COMPLEX. you are trying to make it WORSE by adding another country. really that is proble the biggest error next to not having a JOB!

if you want to see what a hardship is try researching a little more

pregancy is not a hardship, you in LEB is not a hardship, anything happening to him or family is not a hardship for him to come here.

the list goes on..

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if this is was a typical no drama case. the typical wait would have been possible 1 year. because of all the AR/AP those men comming from islamic nations normally face in the name of required "security checks".

some people can get thought it a little faster. those are people who pretty much have a normal case. this varies deponding on the embassy.. BUTTT.. your CASES... uhmmm

the factors working against you..

1. if you stay with your husband in a country for 11 months or more.

you MUST prove domicile. if you cant you just added alot of time to the WAIT you will face.

a ) you have NO job.

B) you need to have a Co SPonser.

c) the USICS already need 3 years W-2 from YOU and CO sponser.

d) this co sponser must make enough income for YOU , HUBBY and CHILD. not to mention the CO sponsers family. < this is a very hard task >

2. your husband is from islamic country. that right there is a requirement for ADMIN REVIEW can take 19 days to ENDLESS. I have seen people be on it for as long as 2 years.

3. the fact you have a waiver. add another possible year. you cant begin to get that even considerd til after the interview.

a) you applying the waivers. uhmm

4. involving another country- add MORE time to the mix.

like i said YOU need an immigration attorney your case is very COMPLEX. you are trying to make it WORSE by adding another country. really that is proble the biggest error next to not having a JOB!

if you want to see what a hardship is try researching a little more

pregancy is not a hardship, you in LEB is not a hardship, anything happening to him or family is not a hardship for him to come here.

the list goes on..

The Poverty Limits are actually quite low.

She has researched, see her posts.

Very few Immigration Lawyers are compotent in this field.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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if this is was a typical no drama case. the typical wait would have been possible 1 year. because of all the AR/AP those men comming from islamic nations normally face in the name of required "security checks".

some people can get thought it a little faster. those are people who pretty much have a normal case. this varies deponding on the embassy.. BUTTT.. your CASES... uhmmm

the factors working against you..

1. if you stay with your husband in a country for 11 months or more.

you MUST prove domicile. if you cant you just added alot of time to the WAIT you will face.

a ) you have NO job.

B) you need to have a Co SPonser.

c) the USICS already need 3 years W-2 from YOU and CO sponser.

d) this co sponser must make enough income for YOU , HUBBY and CHILD. not to mention the CO sponsers family. < this is a very hard task >

2. your husband is from islamic country. that right there is a requirement for ADMIN REVIEW can take 19 days to ENDLESS. I have seen people be on it for as long as 2 years.

3. the fact you have a waiver. add another possible year. you cant begin to get that even considerd til after the interview.

a) you applying the waivers. uhmm

4. involving another country- add MORE time to the mix.

like i said YOU need an immigration attorney your case is very COMPLEX. you are trying to make it WORSE by adding another country. really that is proble the biggest error next to not having a JOB!

if you want to see what a hardship is try researching a little more

pregancy is not a hardship, you in LEB is not a hardship, anything happening to him or family is not a hardship for him to come here.

the list goes on..

okay first of all, i come to these sites for SUPPORT not to be told no no this this that that........i HAVE RESEARCED, I DO know that they need all this stuff, I DO have a cosponser for him, this cosponser is the SAME person who sponsered him before and yes dont worry their income is WELL above sufficient.....WE ARE in contact with a lawyer and she DOES say it will take time but only about 2 to 3 years maximum. Us talking about going to another country was an idea, not a thought we were looking to really do, i came to get input on if it would make it harder. i guess you have proved your point that it would ehh? thank you have a nice day :thumbs:

The fact that the middle east right now is unstable is a major point working for you. There really isn't much waivers on this site or the other going through Athens and my case is the only other case going through lebanon. The thing with waivers is that they say that seperation is not a harpship so basically we have to pray that the person that makes the decision has a heart.

Thank you for your reply. yes the middle east is unstable as is the rest of the world LOL. Hopefully that will be a point in our court. I guess all i can do is hope that the officer has a heart.......who apprves these things anyway? i thought it was the discretion of the Attorney General?? yikes. lol

if this is was a typical no drama case. the typical wait would have been possible 1 year. because of all the AR/AP those men comming from islamic nations normally face in the name of required "security checks".

some people can get thought it a little faster. those are people who pretty much have a normal case. this varies deponding on the embassy.. BUTTT.. your CASES... uhmmm

the factors working against you..

1. if you stay with your husband in a country for 11 months or more.

you MUST prove domicile. if you cant you just added alot of time to the WAIT you will face.

a ) you have NO job.

B) you need to have a Co SPonser.

c) the USICS already need 3 years W-2 from YOU and CO sponser.

d) this co sponser must make enough income for YOU , HUBBY and CHILD. not to mention the CO sponsers family. < this is a very hard task >

2. your husband is from islamic country. that right there is a requirement for ADMIN REVIEW can take 19 days to ENDLESS. I have seen people be on it for as long as 2 years.

3. the fact you have a waiver. add another possible year. you cant begin to get that even considerd til after the interview.

a) you applying the waivers. uhmm

4. involving another country- add MORE time to the mix.

like i said YOU need an immigration attorney your case is very COMPLEX. you are trying to make it WORSE by adding another country. really that is proble the biggest error next to not having a JOB!

if you want to see what a hardship is try researching a little more

pregancy is not a hardship, you in LEB is not a hardship, anything happening to him or family is not a hardship for him to come here.

the list goes on..

The Poverty Limits are actually quite low.

She has researched, see her posts.

Very few Immigration Lawyers are compotent in this field.

Thank you at least you have read my posts. yep i have researched ALOT LOL.....yea his attorney is helping us out so i guess all we can do is wait.............The proverty limits have no bearing to me, we have a sponser and co sponser and all the paperwork to go along with it :yes:

June 11 05-Married George, civil ceremony in New York

May 30 08-Baby Joshua was born

Jan 15-Back to NY we go...

May 10-made decision not to go back overseas.

July 10-filed for divorce

Jan 11-Divorce final

July 11-1st trip to take Josh to see George

Mar 12-2nd trip to take Josh to see George

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For your hardship letter remember that there is a warining to register if a USC is visiting lebanon or any other country to register with the embassy in case they need to contact them for there safety. Thefore that is proof that the US considers Lebanon as unsafe country for an American. The Waiver is going to be your most important step. If that is approved you are pretty much home free. They do a security check for that.

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Yep i have been chking the warnings to see if they are updating it. things are really tense in these areas these days and i worry about going outside and downtown.

The waiver letters are going to be prepared with a lot of time and consideration, even if his lawyer does help us i want her to send us the letter she writes and i plan on putting one together incase i dont agree with hers that it is strong enough........we shall see. we need to get this i130 approved first.

June 11 05-Married George, civil ceremony in New York

May 30 08-Baby Joshua was born

Jan 15-Back to NY we go...

May 10-made decision not to go back overseas.

July 10-filed for divorce

Jan 11-Divorce final

July 11-1st trip to take Josh to see George

Mar 12-2nd trip to take Josh to see George

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Dunno if anyone's mentioned this, cos I haven't read all the replies....BUT

I feel what you're doing is trying to circumvent the system. Doesn't matter if another country looks better 'on paper' or anything else. Your husband is Lebanese and has a 10year ban for marriage visa fraud, and you should shoot straight dice instead of 'waiting out' the visa process in another country as if it's a dead cert you'll get approved.

Think about it.

I'm sorry to be so harsh, but it is honestly the way I feel and I'm trying to let you know this in the most respectful way I can.

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