Jump to content
one...two...tree

Prison Reform Now

 Share

145 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Filed: Country: Philippines
Timeline

Glenn Greenwald, Salon

There are few things rarer than a major politician doing something that is genuinely courageous and principled, but Jim Webb's impassioned commitment to fundamental prison reform is exactly that. Webb's interest in the issue was prompted by his work as a journalist in 1984, when he wrote about an American citizen who was locked away in a Japanese prison for two years under extremely harsh conditions for nothing more than marijuana possession. After decades of mindless "tough-on-crime" hysteria, an increasingly irrational "drug war," and a sprawling, privatized prison state as brutal as it is counter-productive, America has easily surpassed Japan -- and virtually every other country in the world -- to become what Brown University Professor Glenn Loury recently described as a "a nation of jailers" whose "prison system has grown into a leviathan unmatched in human history."

What's most notable about Webb's decision to champion this cause is how honest his advocacy is. He isn't just attempting to chip away at the safe edges of America's oppressive prison state. His critique of what we're doing is fundamental, not incremental. And, most important of all, Webb is addressing head-on one of the principal causes of our insane imprisonment fixation: our aberrational insistence on criminalizing and imprisoning non-violent drug offenders (when we're not doing worse to them). That is an issue most politicians are petrified to get anywhere near, as evidenced just this week by Barack Obama's adolescent, condescending snickering when asked about marijuana legalization, in response to which Obama gave a dismissive answer that Andrew Sullivan accurately deemed "pathetic." Here are just a few excerpts from Webb's Senate floor speech this week (.pdf) on his new bill to create a Commission to study all aspects of prison reform:

Let's start with a premise that I don't think a lot of Americans are aware of.
We have 5% of the world's population; we have 25% of the world's known prison population. We have an incarceration rate in the United States, the world's greatest democracy, that is five times as high as the average incarceration rate of the rest of the world.
There are only two possibilities here: either we have the most evil people on earth living in the United States; or we are doing something dramatically wrong in terms of how we approach the issue of criminal justice. . . .

The elephant in the bedroom in many discussions on the criminal justice system is the sharp increase in drug incarceration over the past three decades. In 1980, we had 41,000 drug offenders in prison; today we have more than 500,000, an increase of 1,200%. The blue disks represent the numbers in 1980; the red disks represent the numbers in 2007 and
a significant percentage of those incarcerated are for possession or nonviolent offenses
stemming from drug addiction and those sorts of related behavioral issues. . . .

In many cases these issues involve people's ability to have proper counsel and other issues, but there are stunning statistics with respect to drugs that we all must come to terms with. African-Americans are about 12% of our population; contrary to a lot of thought and rhetoric,
their drug use rate in terms of frequent drug use rate is about the same as all other elements of our society, about 14%. But they end up being 37% of those arrested on drug charges, 59% of those convicted, and 74% of those sentenced to prison
by the numbers that have been provided by us. . . .

Another piece of this issue that I hope we will address with this National Criminal Justice Commission is
what happens inside our prisons
. . . . We also have a situation in this country with respect to prison violence and sexual victimization that is off the charts and we must get our arms around this problem. We also have many people in our prisons who are among what are called the criminally ill, many suffering from hepatitis and HIV who are not getting the sorts of treatment they deserve.

Importantly,
what are we going to do about drug policy
- the whole area of drug policy in this country?

And how does that affect sentencing procedures and other alternatives that we might look at?

Webb added that "America's criminal justice system has deteriorated to the point that it is a national disgrace" and "we are locking up too many people who do not belong in jail."

It's hard to overstate how politically thankless, and risky, is Webb's pursuit of this issue -- both in general and particularly for Webb. Though there has been some evolution of public opinion on some drug policy issues, there is virtually no meaningful organized constituency for prison reform. To the contrary, leaving oneself vulnerable to accusations of being "soft on crime" has, for decades, been one of the most toxic vulnerabilities a politician can suffer (ask Michael Dukakis). Moreover, the privatized Prison State is a booming and highly profitable industry, with an army of lobbyists, donations, and other well-funded weapons for targeting candidates who threaten its interests.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/index.html

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 144
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
Timeline

solve prison overcrowding, start executions now!

* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

 

USE THE REPORT BUTTON INSTEAD OF MESSAGING A MODERATOR!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I really hate, hate, hate blog op eds. They are just a random person's point of view. Dammnit and this is an important question too.

Refusing to use the spellchick!

I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Country: Philippines
Timeline
I really hate, hate, hate blog op eds. They are just a random person's point of view. Dammnit and this is an important question too.

Most of what is there, is an excerpt from Jim Webb's speech. Can't you find something constructive to say?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, I absolutely think that the American penal system should be thoroughly reformed. However, how that can be achieved when each state is allowed to set such different standards is totally beyond me.

I would still much rather see a discussion about a very important subject started using a reputable piece rather than some crappy blog though, whatever you say.

Refusing to use the spellchick!

I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I really hate, hate, hate blog op eds. They are just a random person's point of view. Dammnit and this is an important question too.

We want your opinion, Cleo, so we will know what to think. We know that you are not just some random person.

Sign-on-a-church-af.jpgLogic-af.jpgwwiao.gif

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Country: Philippines
Timeline
Yes, I absolutely think that the American penal system should be thoroughly reformed. However, how that can be achieved when each state is allowed to set such different standards is totally beyond me.

I would still much rather see a discussion about a very important subject started using a reputable piece rather than some crappy blog though, whatever you say.

MC, Glenn Greenwald is an American Constitutional and civil rights litigator. He's not some guy with a hairy back, sitting at his computer at home and blogging for the hell of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald

Edited by Mister Fancypants
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I really hate, hate, hate blog op eds. They are just a random person's point of view. Dammnit and this is an important question too.

We want your opinion, Cleo, so we will know what to think. We know that you are not just some random person.

Do not be silly. There are perfectly valid news/media sources and it is quite obviously that I am referring to not whether I have a more important opinion than another blogger.

Refusing to use the spellchick!

I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, I absolutely think that the American penal system should be thoroughly reformed. However, how that can be achieved when each state is allowed to set such different standards is totally beyond me.

I would still much rather see a discussion about a very important subject started using a reputable piece rather than some crappy blog though, whatever you say.

MC, Glenn Greenwald is an American Constitutional and civil rights litigator. He's not some guy with a hairy back, sitting at his computer at home and blogging for the hell of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald

Blogs are unverified opinion pieces. If you value journalism and its integrity you should seek wherever possible to use sources that have more validity - you as in the general you, not you particularly.

Refusing to use the spellchick!

I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Country: Philippines
Timeline
Yes, I absolutely think that the American penal system should be thoroughly reformed. However, how that can be achieved when each state is allowed to set such different standards is totally beyond me.

I would still much rather see a discussion about a very important subject started using a reputable piece rather than some crappy blog though, whatever you say.

MC, Glenn Greenwald is an American Constitutional and civil rights litigator. He's not some guy with a hairy back, sitting at his computer at home and blogging for the hell of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald

Blogs are unverified opinion pieces. If you value journalism and its integrity you should seek wherever possible to use sources that have more validity - you as in the general you, not you particularly.

You don't think Salon upholds the integrity of what they publish? Please explain.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Thailand
Timeline

I too consider this a serious topic, and an issue the deperately needs to be fixed, but the hardest question of all is How?

Do prisoners deserve to have rights?

I do you avoid imprisoning or executing an innocent person? Does it matter?

How much quality of life should a prisoner have?

K-1 Timeline

11-29-05: Mailed I-129F Petition to CSC

12-06-05: NOA1

03-02-06: NOA2

03-23-06: Interview Date May 16

05-17-06: K-1 Visa Issued

05-20-06: Arrived at POE, Honolulu

07-17-06: Married

AOS Timeline

08-14-06: Mailed I-485 to Chicago

08-24-06: NOA for I-485

09-08-06: Biometrics Appointment

09-25-06: I-485 transferred to CSC

09-28-06: I-485 received at CSC

10-18-06: AOS Approved

10-21-06: Approval notice mailed

10-23-06: Received "Welcome Letter"

10-27-06: Received 2 yr Green Card

I-751 Timeline

07-21-08: Mailed I-751 to VSC

07-25-08: NOA for I-751

08-27-08: Biometrics Appointment

02-25-09: I-751 transferred to CSC

04-17-09: I-751 Approved

06-22-09: Received 10 yr Green Card

N-400 Timeline

07-20-09: Mailed N-400 to Lewisville, TX

07-23-09: NOA for N-400

08-14-09: Biometrics Appointment

09-08-09: Interview Date Oct 07

10-30-09: Oath Ceremony

11-20-09: Received Passport!!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Egypt
Timeline

Life without parole.

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

kodasmall3.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...