Profile of Mass Murderers

[fozzie 41]

If you want to fire assault weapons (and don't get into semantics about what is or isn't an assault weapon, you know what we mean) join the army. Then you get to protect the constitution and shoot stuff.

is it that difficult to say assault rifle? come on, you can do it!

Semantics, charles. Well done.

you may consider it semantics, with the interchangability of assault rifle and assault weapon, however, assault rifle has a clear cut definition, whereas assault weapon does not (and is primarily used by the political left to make it sound scarier).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

Is an assault rifle not an assault weapon? Rifles aren't weapons? You stray from the main argument and delve into what is or is not an assault weapon. Every time there is a post that becomes a pro gun/anti gun debate you spend your entire time trying to clarify what the definition of assault weapon is.

no, an assault rifle is not an assault weapon, as there is no standard definition of an assault weapon. you did read the link i provided earlier, didn't you?

as for why i clarify the difference between the two, it's because ignorance runs rampant on this very topic and people think the two phrases are interchangeable. it's like calling cricket baseball.

I did read the definition, of both assault weapon and assault rifle. Its wikipedia and it still leaves both terms open for debate.

So Charles, now that I have read your definition, are assault rifles okay for hunting squirrels? If you want to fire assault rifles join the army. Then you get to protect the constitution and shoot stuff. Do you want an assault rifle because a) its you contituional right to do so. B) I may need to fight the US army when they make my country a totalitarian state. Or c) I like to shoot squirrels, them pesky varmin, with big gun that looks cool.

Edited March 28, 2009 by fozzie

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

If you want to fire assault weapons (and don't get into semantics about what is or isn't an assault weapon, you know what we mean) join the army. Then you get to protect the constitution and shoot stuff.

is it that difficult to say assault rifle? come on, you can do it!

Semantics, charles. Well done.

you may consider it semantics, with the interchangability of assault rifle and assault weapon, however, assault rifle has a clear cut definition, whereas assault weapon does not (and is primarily used by the political left to make it sound scarier).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

Is an assault rifle not an assault weapon? Rifles aren't weapons? You stray from the main argument and delve into what is or is not an assault weapon. Every time there is a post that becomes a pro gun/anti gun debate you spend your entire time trying to clarify what the definition of assault weapon is.

no, an assault rifle is not an assault weapon, as there is no standard definition of an assault weapon. you did read the link i provided earlier, didn't you?

as for why i clarify the difference between the two, it's because ignorance runs rampant on this very topic and people think the two phrases are interchangeable. it's like calling cricket baseball.

I did read the definition, of both assault weapon and assault rifle. Its wikipedia and it still leaves both terms open for debate.

So Charles, now that I have read your definition, are assault rifles okay for hunting squirrels? If you want to fire assault rifles join the army. Then you get to protect the constitution and shoot stuff. Do you want an assault rifle because a) its you contituional right to do so. B) I may need to fight the US army when they make my country a totalitarian state. Or c) I like to shoot squirrels, them pesky varmin, with big gun that looks cool.

The 5.56 mm (.223 cal) round is excellent for hunting varmint.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varmint_rifle

Edited March 28, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[one...two...tree 2,762]

If you want to fire assault weapons (and don't get into semantics about what is or isn't an assault weapon, you know what we mean) join the army. Then you get to protect the constitution and shoot stuff.

is it that difficult to say assault rifle? come on, you can do it!

Semantics, charles. Well done.

you may consider it semantics, with the interchangability of assault rifle and assault weapon, however, assault rifle has a clear cut definition, whereas assault weapon does not (and is primarily used by the political left to make it sound scarier).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

Is an assault rifle not an assault weapon? Rifles aren't weapons? You stray from the main argument and delve into what is or is not an assault weapon. Every time there is a post that becomes a pro gun/anti gun debate you spend your entire time trying to clarify what the definition of assault weapon is.

no, an assault rifle is not an assault weapon, as there is no standard definition of an assault weapon. you did read the link i provided earlier, didn't you?

as for why i clarify the difference between the two, it's because ignorance runs rampant on this very topic and people think the two phrases are interchangeable. it's like calling cricket baseball.

You keep wanting to argue over semantics, Charles. Here's a summary of what the AWB proposes: (which part do you take issue with?)

Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 - Amends the federal criminal code to reinstate, for 10 years, the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act's assault weapons ban to prohibit the manufacture, transfer, or possession of a semiautomatic assault weapon or a large capacity ammunition feeding device. Specifies models and features of banned weapons.

Sets forth exceptions to such ban, including: (1) firearms or devices lawfully possessed under federal law on the date of enactment of this Act; (2) certain firearms, replicas, or duplicates listed in an appendix as they were manufactured on October 1, 1993; (3) any firearm that is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action and that has been rendered permanently inoperable or that is an antique firearm; (4) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; (5) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds in a fixed or detachable magazine; and (6) firearms manufactured for, transferred to, or possessed by a federal, state, or local government agency or for law enforcement.Requires the serial number of any weapon or device manufactured after enactment of this Act to clearly show the date of manufacture.

Directs the Attorney General to study and report to Congress on the effects of this Act on violent and drug trafficking crime.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?b...amp;tab=summary

Edited March 28, 2009 by Mister Fancypants

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

If you want to fire assault weapons (and don't get into semantics about what is or isn't an assault weapon, you know what we mean) join the army. Then you get to protect the constitution and shoot stuff.

is it that difficult to say assault rifle? come on, you can do it!

Semantics, charles. Well done.

you may consider it semantics, with the interchangability of assault rifle and assault weapon, however, assault rifle has a clear cut definition, whereas assault weapon does not (and is primarily used by the political left to make it sound scarier).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

Is an assault rifle not an assault weapon? Rifles aren't weapons? You stray from the main argument and delve into what is or is not an assault weapon. Every time there is a post that becomes a pro gun/anti gun debate you spend your entire time trying to clarify what the definition of assault weapon is.

no, an assault rifle is not an assault weapon, as there is no standard definition of an assault weapon. you did read the link i provided earlier, didn't you?

as for why i clarify the difference between the two, it's because ignorance runs rampant on this very topic and people think the two phrases are interchangeable. it's like calling cricket baseball.

You keep wanting to argue over semantics, Charles. Here's a summary of what the AWB proposes: (which part do you take issue with?)

Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 - Amends the federal criminal code to reinstate, for 10 years, the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act's assault weapons ban to prohibit the manufacture, transfer, or possession of a semiautomatic assault weapon or a large capacity ammunition feeding device. Specifies models and features of banned weapons.

Sets forth exceptions to such ban, including: (1) firearms or devices lawfully possessed under federal law on the date of enactment of this Act; (2) certain firearms, replicas, or duplicates listed in an appendix as they were manufactured on October 1, 1993; (3) any firearm that is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action and that has been rendered permanently inoperable or that is an antique firearm; (4) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; (5) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds in a fixed or detachable magazine; and (6) firearms manufactured for, transferred to, or possessed by a federal, state, or local government agency or for law enforcement.Requires the serial number of any weapon or device manufactured after enactment of this Act to clearly show the date of manufacture.

Directs the Attorney General to study and report to Congress on the effects of this Act on violent and drug trafficking crime.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?b...amp;tab=summary

According to what you have posted, the top rifle would be banned, but not the bottom one. Both can use detatchable magazines. The top one is semi-automatic, and the bottom one is bolt action.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

You keep wanting to argue over semantics, Charles. Here's a summary of what the AWB proposes: (which part do you take issue with?)

Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 - Amends the federal criminal code to reinstate, for 10 years, the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act's assault weapons ban to prohibit the manufacture, transfer, or possession of a semiautomatic assault weapon or a large capacity ammunition feeding device. Specifies models and features of banned weapons.

Sets forth exceptions to such ban, including: (1) firearms or devices lawfully possessed under federal law on the date of enactment of this Act; (2) certain firearms, replicas, or duplicates listed in an appendix as they were manufactured on October 1, 1993; (3) any firearm that is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action and that has been rendered permanently inoperable or that is an antique firearm; (4) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; (5) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds in a fixed or detachable magazine; and (6) firearms manufactured for, transferred to, or possessed by a federal, state, or local government agency or for law enforcement.Requires the serial number of any weapon or device manufactured after enactment of this Act to clearly show the date of manufacture.

Directs the Attorney General to study and report to Congress on the effects of this Act on violent and drug trafficking crime.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?b...amp;tab=summary

According to what you have posted, the top rifle would be banned, but not the bottom one. Both can use detatchable magazines. The top one is semi-automatic, and the bottom one is bolt action.

Bill, you can read the full text of the AWB to see specifically, which weapons are banned. Look, there is no such thing as a perfectly written bill. If you believe this bill could be improved, then articulate where and how, but to simply dismiss the notion that we can't reasonably establish guidelines for what weapons should be off the streets and which ones should be legal is ignoring common sense.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

According to what you have posted, the top rifle would be banned, but not the bottom one. Both can use detatchable magazines. The top one is semi-automatic, and the bottom one is bolt action.

Bill, read this again...

Sets forth exceptions to such ban, including: (4) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; (5) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds in a fixed or detachable magazine;

Edited March 28, 2009 by Mister Fancypants

[fozzie 41]

According to what you have posted, the top rifle would be banned, but not the bottom one. Both can use detatchable magazines. The top one is semi-automatic, and the bottom one is bolt action.

I'd further add, Bill - why would a hunter need a semi-automatic over bolt action?

Squirrels are quick little blighters. They need to level the playing field.

[HAL 9000 96]

I respect guns and the right to bear them. What I don't respect is for someone to think they have a sudden need for a weapon that is capable of cutting down a 10-foot wide tree from 200 yards away. You gots chainsaws and axes for that.

maybe you can tell us which gun that is.

Bridge, meet Charles.

still not going to tell us?

The PhD in gunology here is you.

If you want to fire assault weapons (and don't get into semantics about what is or isn't an assault weapon, you know what we mean) join the army. Then you get to protect the constitution and shoot stuff.

is it that difficult to say assault rifle? come on, you can do it!

Semantics, charles. Well done.

you may consider it semantics, with the interchangability of assault rifle and assault weapon, however, assault rifle has a clear cut definition, whereas assault weapon does not (and is primarily used by the political left to make it sound scarier).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

Is an assault rifle not an assault weapon? Rifles aren't weapons? You stray from the main argument and delve into what is or is not an assault weapon. Every time there is a post that becomes a pro gun/anti gun debate you spend your entire time trying to clarify what the definition of assault weapon is.

no, an assault rifle is not an assault weapon, as there is no standard definition of an assault weapon. you did read the link i provided earlier, didn't you?

as for why i clarify the difference between the two, it's because ignorance runs rampant on this very topic and people think the two phrases are interchangeable. it's like calling cricket baseball.

Hmmmm...

[Ban Hammer 13,360]

If you want to fire assault weapons (and don't get into semantics about what is or isn't an assault weapon, you know what we mean) join the army. Then you get to protect the constitution and shoot stuff.

is it that difficult to say assault rifle? come on, you can do it!

Semantics, charles. Well done.

you may consider it semantics, with the interchangability of assault rifle and assault weapon, however, assault rifle has a clear cut definition, whereas assault weapon does not (and is primarily used by the political left to make it sound scarier).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

Is an assault rifle not an assault weapon? Rifles aren't weapons? You stray from the main argument and delve into what is or is not an assault weapon. Every time there is a post that becomes a pro gun/anti gun debate you spend your entire time trying to clarify what the definition of assault weapon is.

no, an assault rifle is not an assault weapon, as there is no standard definition of an assault weapon. you did read the link i provided earlier, didn't you?

as for why i clarify the difference between the two, it's because ignorance runs rampant on this very topic and people think the two phrases are interchangeable. it's like calling cricket baseball.

You keep wanting to argue over semantics, Charles. Here's a summary of what the AWB proposes: (which part do you take issue with?)

Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 - Amends the federal criminal code to reinstate, for 10 years, the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act's assault weapons ban to prohibit the manufacture, transfer, or possession of a semiautomatic assault weapon or a large capacity ammunition feeding device. Specifies models and features of banned weapons.

Sets forth exceptions to such ban, including: (1) firearms or devices lawfully possessed under federal law on the date of enactment of this Act; (2) certain firearms, replicas, or duplicates listed in an appendix as they were manufactured on October 1, 1993; (3) any firearm that is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action and that has been rendered permanently inoperable or that is an antique firearm; (4) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; (5) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds in a fixed or detachable magazine; and (6) firearms manufactured for, transferred to, or possessed by a federal, state, or local government agency or for law enforcement.Requires the serial number of any weapon or device manufactured after enactment of this Act to clearly show the date of manufacture.

Directs the Attorney General to study and report to Congress on the effects of this Act on violent and drug trafficking crime.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?b...amp;tab=summary

everywhere semiautomatic is mentioned. is that clear enough for you?

[Ban Hammer 13,360]

still not going to tell us?

The PhD in gunology here is you.

If you want to fire assault weapons (and don't get into semantics about what is or isn't an assault weapon, you know what we mean) join the army. Then you get to protect the constitution and shoot stuff.

is it that difficult to say assault rifle? come on, you can do it!

Semantics, charles. Well done.

you may consider it semantics, with the interchangability of assault rifle and assault weapon, however, assault rifle has a clear cut definition, whereas assault weapon does not (and is primarily used by the political left to make it sound scarier).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

Is an assault rifle not an assault weapon? Rifles aren't weapons? You stray from the main argument and delve into what is or is not an assault weapon. Every time there is a post that becomes a pro gun/anti gun debate you spend your entire time trying to clarify what the definition of assault weapon is.

no, an assault rifle is not an assault weapon, as there is no standard definition of an assault weapon. you did read the link i provided earlier, didn't you?

as for why i clarify the difference between the two, it's because ignorance runs rampant on this very topic and people think the two phrases are interchangeable. it's like calling cricket baseball.

Hmmmm...

in the first part, just adding gas to the fire without anything else to add. got it.

in the second, similar words don't make them the exact same. go look up an asu-85, now there's an assault weapon for you

[HAL 9000 96]

Not many of those in circulation on the streets I would assume.

[luckytxn 2,264]

It is very telling that when the Socialists come into power they start looking at taking weapons away. Of course when you have sheep as followers it makes it easy to do so.

[*Robert* 2]

What is so funny, or maybe not, are the people quoting the 2nd amendment like it was written yesterday!!! For Pete's sake, when the Bill of Rights was written, the only guns they had were black powder, single shot. Not friggen fully automatic rifles!!!

People need to wake up and stop taking a document written over 200 years ago so literally, and as if it still applies to today's standards. That's why we have a Supreme Court.

Seriously, arguing with some of these people is like talking to a brick wall. All I hear is Waa Waa Waa… Waa Wa Wa Waa!!!

Let's keep the past separate from the present. Jeesh!!!

like you are exercising your freedom of speech ... like the internet was available 200 years go. Context .... got a brain? Use it.

Oh like the two even compare? That is so lame! You should take your own advice and try using your brain.

[Ban Hammer 13,360]

Not many of those in circulation on the streets I would assume.

russia has been known to sell about anything with tracks on the arms market.

[HAL 9000 96]

Not many of those in circulation on the streets I would assume.

russia has been known to sell about anything with tracks on the arms market.

I suppose that we could expect Russia to become involved then with supplying these big boys to Mexico's cartels once we clamp shut the production pipeline here in the states? Now you're on to something!