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Therapists offer gay 'treatment'

Researchers say such treatment pathologises homosexuality

Therapists are still offering treatments for homosexuality despite there being no evidence that such methods work, research suggests.

A significant minority of mental health professionals had agreed to help at least one patient "reduce" their gay or lesbian feelings when asked to do so.

The survey, published in the journal BMC Psychiatry and conducted by London researchers, involved 1,400 therapists.

Many were acting with the "best of intentions", said the lead author.

Only 4% said they would attempt to change a client's sexual orientation, but when asked if they would help curb homosexual feelings some 17% - or one in six - said they had done so.

The incidence appeared to be as prevalent in recent years as decades earlier.

The conclusions of this research are a welcome reminder that what lesbian and gay people need is equal treatment by society, not misguided treatment by a minority of health professionals

Derek Munn

Stonewall

"Of course it's incumbent on a professional to assist a client who wants help, but this should be done using evidence-based therapies - exploring their distress and helping them to adjust to their situation," said Professor Michael King of University College London.

"We know now that efforts to change people's sexual orientation result in very little change and can cause immense harm.

"We found it very worrying that there was a significant minority who appeared to ignore this - even if they had all the right intentions."

'Right to treatment'

The Royal College of Psychiatrists says all homosexuals have "a right to protection from therapies that are potentially damaging, particularly those that purport to change sexual orientation".

In the US, where there has been heated debate on the issue of "curing" homosexuality, The American Psychiatric Association (APA) has urged all "ethical practitioners to refrain from attempts to change individuals' sexual orientation".

However there are organisations which campaign both for an individual's right to seek treatment and a professional's right to offer it.

They point to work by Robert Spitzer, a psychiatrist who lobbied for the removal of homosexuality from APA's list of mental illnesses but went on to suggest in a controversial 2001 study that therapy could bring about change in sexual orientation.

Researchers in the UK are launching a website to collect stories from around the world about such therapies.

They hope in this way to uncover stories from India, South America and China where little is known about the prevalence of such practices.

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Hate people like what??

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Have you found the cure to your heterosexuality?

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Have you found the cure to your heterosexuality?

OMFG! Here have an arsehole!

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Have you found the cure to your heterosexuality?

OMFG! Here have an arsehole!

...is English your first language, darling? *patpats*

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*sigh*

I thought this thread was going to be about a cure for stupidity. Maybe another day.

No, silly. Why would you want that? Aren't there homos infecting us?!!!11

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anyway the therapists just said they will help the people deal with what the people perceive as issues, I doubt the OP was saying anything more damaging than sarcasm and absurdity of the idea of 'talking' people out of being gay. so I wondered where your hate was aimed....? seemed a reasonable question to me, no need to hate.

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anyway the therapists just said they will help the people deal with what the people perceive as issues, I doubt the OP was saying anything more damaging than sarcasm and absurdity of the idea of 'talking' people out of being gay. so I wondered where your hate was aimed....? seemed a reasonable question to me, no need to hate.

Do you, like, actually know someone who is gay? I mean...really, for real gay?

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Hate people like what??

Have you found the cure to your heterosexuality?

OMFG! Here have an arsehole!

...is English your first language, darling? *patpats*

Unfortunately, there's no cure for Marc....he has terminal sh!tmouth combined with p###y-lips. He tries to cover his affliction by riding a Harley and wearing leather....but anyone can see that mouth from miles away. "Look! Here comes sh!tmouth, p###y-lips!"

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Hate people like what??

Have you found the cure to your heterosexuality?

OMFG! Here have an arsehole!

...is English your first language, darling? *patpats*

Unfortunately, there's no cure for Marc....he has terminal sh!tmouth combined with p###y-lips. He tries to cover his affliction by riding a Harley and wearing leather....but anyone can see that mouth from miles away. "Look! Here comes sh!tmouth, p###y-lips!"

Is that a cocoa puff stuck in your mustache? It looks a little moist!

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."- Ayn Rand

“Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.”

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Hate people like what??

Have you found the cure to your heterosexuality?

OMFG! Here have an arsehole!

...is English your first language, darling? *patpats*

Unfortunately, there's no cure for Marc....he has terminal sh!tmouth combined with p###y-lips. He tries to cover his affliction by riding a Harley and wearing leather....but anyone can see that mouth from miles away. "Look! Here comes sh!tmouth, p###y-lips!"

Is that a cocoa puff stuck in your mustache? It looks a little moist!

Bring it, sh!tmouth, p###y-lips. You desperately needed your ####### kicked a long time ago....probably would have cured you of your affliction.

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Hate people like what??

Have you found the cure to your heterosexuality?

OMFG! Here have an arsehole!

...is English your first language, darling? *patpats*

Unfortunately, there's no cure for Marc....he has terminal sh!tmouth combined with p###y-lips. He tries to cover his affliction by riding a Harley and wearing leather....but anyone can see that mouth from miles away. "Look! Here comes sh!tmouth, p###y-lips!"

Is that a cocoa puff stuck in your mustache? It looks a little moist!

Bring it, sh!tmouth, p###y-lips. You desperately needed your ####### kicked a long time ago....probably would have cured you of your affliction.

:rofl: I already brought it! Its sittin in your mustache mister poopypants. Go wash up son, your a mess!

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."- Ayn Rand

“Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.”

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