Buttermilk in Brazil?

[Marina-Del 10]

Weird question, I know! And I'd ask my fiance but he's sleeping and I just know you guys will know!! (Plus, I'm not sure he will even know what buttermilk is! hehe)

I'm from Georgia, USA and have an urge to cook my in-laws some wonderful southern food....buttermilk biscuits -GA style!- and Red Velvet Cake and CORNBREAD!! Yes cornbread! and all sorts of other things...

So...I really need buttermilk. Please tell me you have this here? And what is it called? Can I find it at the local grocery store!?

Thanks!

Edited March 25, 2009 by Marina-Del

[Dias Melhores 0]

Weird question, I know! And I'd ask my fiance but he's sleeping and I just know you guys will know!! (Plus, I'm not sure he will even know what buttermilk is! hehe)

I'm from Georgia, USA and have an urge to cook my in-laws some wonderful southern food....buttermilk biscuits -GA style!- and Red Velvet Cake and CORNBREAD!! Yes cornbread! and all sorts of other things...

So...I really need buttermilk. Please tell me you have this here? And what is it called? Can I find it at the local grocery store!?

Thanks!

I checked with my Brazilian wife and she says that it is made at home and will be difficult to find at a grocery store. Not sure if you want to use the substitutions:

Ingredient Substitutions

These subs. are good for baking and batters - not for uncooked foods like dressings.

For 1 cup buttermilk select one:

1 cup milk + 1 tablespoon lemon juice

1 cup milk + 1 tablespoon white vinegar

1 cup milk + 1 teaspoon cream of tartar

Here is the link:

http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/equivalents_s...=B&tid=2301

Good Luck!

[Nessa 23]

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitelho

never heard of leitelho, but that's the translation it gives. I found the same thing online PP did. you can mix for each cup of whole milk 1 tbsp of vinegar or 1 tbsp lemon juice.

some people also blend ''coalhada'' that is a bit sour with milk

Edited March 25, 2009 by Nessa

[Ladylethal 12]

It will be hard to find it indeed, you'll have to make it or adapt the recipe to use coalhada instead. It would be easier to make it if you could get fresh milk, before it was pasteurized so it had all the fat content on it still (like buying directly from a farm).

[Marina-Del 10]

Thanks guys for the advice! I was afraid of that! I remembered after I posted that my parents mentioned something about milk and vinegar to make buttermilk one time when we didn't have any in the house to cook with!

I guess I'll just have to try those recipes you have provided (or call up my grandmother in GA and see if she has another tested recipe!) and go with trial and error!!

You mentioned that it would maybe be better to use fresh milk. Do they even sell fresh milk at the grocery stores here? Like normally we buy cases of long life milk! It's taken some getting used to for me! Hardly anyone in the US drinks long life milk (only fresh, AND pasteurized) so it's different for me! But it's fine as well!

I'll have to ask my parents I guess if they think that long life milk plus lemon juice or vinegar would work the same as fresh milk (pasteurized or not) and lemon juice or vinegar to make a buttermilk substitute for recipes! Any ideas?

Sounds like I'll make my southern delicacies at home first, taste them, and THEN bring them over to my in-laws house! Although, I'm sure my SO wont complain about that!

I have already "treated" my in-laws to what I considered to be normal American food. Most people think of burgers and hot dogs, which Americans eat a lot, but I wanted to show them what some American families eat normally.

I think the average American family now-a-days eats lots of different types of food in their everyday home made meals like Mexican, Italian, Chinese, ect, but I wanted to show them what "traditional" American food was.

So, I made meat loaf and mac and cheese!

Any other suggestions for my educational cooking? hehe

Can you tell I'm in a cooking mood!?

[Nessa 23]

yeah if u tried to make hot dogs brazilian would probably not like, since your idea of hot dog is a barbecued hot dog in a bun. in brazil hot dogs are boiled in tomato sauce, put in a huge bun with loads of other stuff, pickels, cheese, peas, corn, potato stix, etc

as for the burger it's pretty much the same thing in brazil, so nothing different there.

for a more american dessert would be traditional new york style cheesecake, cuz apple pie is very common and pretty much the same as here.

Edited March 25, 2009 by Nessa

[Ladylethal 12]

Unless you live in a smaller town you might not find fresh fresh milk (and don't mean the whole milk in a bottle in the market either lol).

As for american food that is not fast food, just regional things like gumbo. Meatloaf is very american, but it's also VERY common in Brasil.

I agree with Nessa, apple pie we find in Brasil along with variations, but for pie I'd make a pumpkin one, not very common and since it's the Thanksgiving dessert staple it's very american. Cheesecake is now starting to show up everywhere but a NY style one is just THAT much american. Clam chowder, not common in Brasil, and it's an american regional dish from New England. Casseroles like chicken or tuna with the veggies and pasta or rice are also something that to me is very american, and you might or might not find in Brasil on a common basis.

Now, pizza is spread all over the world, but Chicago style deep dish is not too common in Brasil.

Agree that our hot dogs are just too good to go with a chicago or NY hot dog and make it compare. We eat american style hot dog only when we're too lazy to make the sauce.

Edited March 25, 2009 by Luis&Laura

[Dias Melhores 0]

yeah if u tried to make hot dogs brazilian would probably not like, since your idea of hot dog is a barbecued hot dog in a bun. in brazil hot dogs are boiled in tomato sauce, put in a huge bun with loads of other stuff, pickels, cheese, peas, corn, potato stix, etc

as for the burger it's pretty much the same thing in brazil, so nothing different there.

for a more american dessert would be traditional new york style cheesecake, cuz apple pie is very common and pretty much the same as here.

I really like the Brazil style hot dogs... they remind me of Chicago style. Very tasty!

[Ladylethal 12]

Yummy!

What about kids's party hot dogs? My mom used to make them for my parties. The sausages cut up like in the picture above but she also added ground beef to the sauce. They were awesome!

Oh, I remember something else you can cook for your in laws that is very american. I know it's imported from mexico and all but hey, it's become very american. Chili! I don't see chili in Brasil.

[Nessa 23]

yeah, pumpkin pie is very american and not brazilian at all. same for pecan pie.

chili, yeah

[Dias Melhores 0]

Yummy!

What about kids's party hot dogs? My mom used to make them for my parties. The sausages cut up like in the picture above but she also added ground beef to the sauce. They were awesome!

Oh, I remember something else you can cook for your in laws that is very american. I know it's imported from mexico and all but hey, it's become very american. Chili! I don't see chili in Brasil.

Looks great!!! Now my stocmach is growling!!!

[Ladylethal 12]

Easy to make them here. Chopped onions, some olive/canola oil, brown the onions, add chopped tomatoes, let it cook, add some tomato paste and water, some knorr and black pepper, let it simmer, add the green peppers and boiled hot dogs, let it simmer a bit more to get taste, serve with hot dog buns. Voilá!

[Marina-Del 10]

Yes, I have had Brazilian hotdogs now...and I really liked them! We went to this huge side of the road place that seemed really popular in São Paulo and I tried them there. It's so strange for me that there was mashed potatos on top...but it was good!

And yeah, those are all good ideas! You are right, it's not so American really...but they do not have any Mexican food here at all it seems and we eat TONS of Mexican food at my house! Good ideas!

I made Chocolate Chip Cookies today. No one around me had ever had freshly baked cookies! I was shocked! They had only had the hard ones that you buy at the store!

[Ladylethal 12]

Yes, brazilians don't usually make cookies at home.

Some people will bake the butter cookies or the "nata" cookies (made out of the fat that comes out of boiling fresh milk). Brazilians tend to bake more cakes, from scratch, while I see americans doing mostly cookies from scratch.

[Nessa 23]

our cake is better. we have all kinds and they're usually filled with yummy stuff, while in the states there's usually no filling and that yucky white greasy frosting.