Questions! Denials and more then 1 interview, is this every country?

[Afrilaskan Queen 0]

Hi Everyone,

I am puzzled and perplexed. I was reading another post here on the Africa forum where a 2nd interview was requested for those who are getting a spouse or fiance visa. Is this the normal route? And is more than one interview seen as normal at every embassy for those applying for their visas'? Or does this apply mostly to certain areas like Africa? Sometimes people go back to answer questions continually over three or four visits, while I thought most interviews are only supposed to be brief.

Also my other question is that there are so many people denied two or three times and then getting a visa, don't they know from the beginning what is going on at the Embassy??

I am in particular wondering, if anyone has seen this same pattern at most embassy's. Is it the norm to do more then one interview? Is it the normal for places to be denied for further informatio??

Anyone who has any thoughts I be most interested. I'll try posting this in another forum as well in hopes to hear from many different countries petitioning.

I know I've repeated myself, I just hope my questions are clear. I am trying to figure out the purpose of additional interviews, particularly when I read there was no investigations - just more interviews.

Thanks

[reeses16 8]

It really depends. I think the posts that you've read in Sub-Saharan Africa are usually dealing with Nigeria and Senegal. Nigeria is considered high fraud. I'm not sure what the deal is with Senegal, but I've seen some VJrs have issues going through Dakar.

Also, I think just because someone does not say there was an investigation (after their 1st interview) it doesn't mean that one didn't occur perhaps without their knowledge. People can be denied for many reasons. Some of which are not complete absolute denials, but you have an opportunity to provide what they are asking for. Such as lack of proof of an ongoing relationship (to the officer's satisfaction) or because the officer decides that a co-sponsor is needed (I've read about people who just made the I-134 requirements, but were still required to get a co-sponsor). Some times people post that they were denied, but the really just need to submit the additional info. Other times it is a true denial, for a reason like misrepresentation.

I'm guessing an additional interview is an opportunity to submitt additional evidence, and perhaps have your fiance/spouse attend if it is possible.

[WhidbeyGirl 1]

Hi Everyone,

I am puzzled and perplexed. I was reading another post here on the Africa forum where a 2nd interview was requested for those who are getting a spouse or fiance visa. Is this the normal route? And is more than one interview seen as normal at every embassy for those applying for their visas'? Or does this apply mostly to certain areas like Africa? Sometimes people go back to answer questions continually over three or four visits, while I thought most interviews are only supposed to be brief.

Also my other question is that there are so many people denied two or three times and then getting a visa, don't they know from the beginning what is going on at the Embassy??

I am in particular wondering, if anyone has seen this same pattern at most embassy's. Is it the norm to do more then one interview? Is it the normal for places to be denied for further informatio??

Anyone who has any thoughts I be most interested. I'll try posting this in another forum as well in hopes to hear from many different countries petitioning.

I know I've repeated myself, I just hope my questions are clear. I am trying to figure out the purpose of additional interviews, particularly when I read there was no investigations - just more interviews.

Thanks

My personal observation, by looking and going through timelines and averages, there are definite countries that take A LOT longer to get through the process than others. Africa is one continent that the timeline averages are higher.

[reeses16 8]

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=186947

This was posted today. This is an example of someone saying the visa was denied, but really they just need to provide additional evidence (actually its not clear if they need more evidence or just didn't complete and submit the I-134).

[Sylvia_n_Joseph 3]

In Nigeria if you are white and older than the man you are apt to have more problems. If you look at the pattern of "issues" during the interview it is mostly mixed race couples with an older woman.

[Afrilaskan Queen 0]

Thank You All Three for your observations and comments. I too have tried to figure out the difference between an denial and request for more evidence denial. I don't understand it. How do you find out the difference I wonder? Also thanks for verifying that it does genuinely seem long in Africa. I also found one of the replies about older white women and africans considered suspicious interesting. I have a white female relative that married an african many years ago and he's 20 years her senior - but they were right for each other, he has an old soul and she has a young one. I'm younger then my SO but it seems rediculous to have to fight an age bias! We're living in 2009! Why do you have to fit some mold of someone's mind that equals an match made in heaven? It just is so ridiculous.

Thanks!

[WhidbeyGirl 1]

I get the very distinct impression that the US is STILL trying to protect it's white women from black men. For some reason "the powers that be" feel we are incapable of making responsible decisions for ourselves, that we don't know how to protect ourselves from being taken advantage of.

[susan_seth 0]

Thank You All Three for your observations and comments. I too have tried to figure out the difference between an denial and request for more evidence denial. I don't understand it. How do you find out the difference I wonder? Also thanks for verifying that it does genuinely seem long in Africa. I also found one of the replies about older white women and africans considered suspicious interesting. I have a white female relative that married an african many years ago and he's 20 years her senior - but they were right for each other, he has an old soul and she has a young one. I'm younger then my SO but it seems rediculous to have to fight an age bias! We're living in 2009! Why do you have to fit some mold of someone's mind that equals an match made in heaven? It just is so ridiculous.

Thanks!

Hi everyone.

Wow, Seth and I maybe waiting a while since I am older than him. I am thinking I will go ahead and book a flight to Ghana for Aug while the prices are low.

Or I wonder since we are married now if he can visit me for a few months while we wait.

I am 20 years older but I look young for my age so I've been told. We match up well.

Good Luck and have a great day.

[Zee Bee 61]

I think that people get "denial" and "more evidence" mixed up because the paper that they give you in that situation is the same (221g), what matters is what is marked on the paper. If you read through the posts where people say "I got denied" you will see that other VJers ask what is actually written on the paper and that is what is used to determine if it is an actual denial or just a request for more evidence.

In some cases the second interview is just an appointment to turn in the passport (as it was in our case).

[Afrilaskan Queen 0]

Thank you so much, I am now seeing what everyone is saying about a difference between denial and request for more evidence. I also think all of the comments on biases are quite interesting. And thank you for the clips to parts of the website I have not seen yet, like the compliation of approval and eventual visa and the dates. That was very interesting. It does seem that all over the world it's more difficult but as suspected some areas like Canada are easier - however it is truly case by case, I am meeting canadiens who have had a heck of a time. This process is almost impossible to explain to others.

Onward we go ...

[Sylvia_n_Joseph 3]

A denial is a rough thing. I am older than Joseph but that does not mean we aren't in love. We will get through this eventually. Now that the initial shock has warn off we are balancing our "normal" lives with the visa process and the process of him taking over because his father has passed. One of the funny things between us about proof of relaationship is if this drags out past him taking the trone and I am the lolo will they accept that as proof ?