unproccessed I-751 returned to us yesterday

[douie 0]

i am a 52 yr.old, natural born, english/american speaking US citizen.

this stated, i still have trouble understanding governmentese.

i prepared my wife's I-751 and sent it to the processing center in Vermont as stated within 90 days. cost of mailing, $5.80.

to me that would mean ,get it to them when you get close to the 90 day mark.

i think this because i hear about all of the concern about not getting it to them soon enough or just to close to the deadline.

well in the wisdom of our paperpushers, our packet was opened - cover letter removed - gone through- stamped- front of my envelope cut off and include, and RETURNED to me. cost of mailing $1.68.

REASON BEING-- the had received it 92 days prior to Ruby's anniversary date. i actual had mailed it the same day i recieved their letter telling us that we need to be aware that this paperwork was coming due.

THEIR meaning of 'within 90 days', means 90, 89, 88, 87---------3,-2, 1 days, prior to the anniversary date.

now i need to redo cover letter and resend [ at additional cost ]

make note it was NOT rejected, it was just returned.

i even called them to verify that.

maybe this is to help keep the postal services afloat. lol.

thanks for the chance to vent------- i hope this might in someway help clarify this for others

[TayRivers 4]

i am a 52 yr.old, natural born, english/american speaking US citizen.

this stated, i still have trouble understanding governmentese.

i prepared my wife's I-751 and sent it to the processing center in Vermont as stated within 90 days. cost of mailing, $5.80.

to me that would mean ,get it to them when you get close to the 90 day mark.

i think this because i hear about all of the concern about not getting it to them soon enough or just to close to the deadline.

well in the wisdom of our paperpushers, our packet was opened - cover letter removed - gone through- stamped- front of my envelope cut off and include, and RETURNED to me. cost of mailing $1.68.

REASON BEING-- the had received it 92 days prior to Ruby's anniversary date. i actual had mailed it the same day i recieved their letter telling us that we need to be aware that this paperwork was coming due.

THEIR meaning of 'within 90 days', means 90, 89, 88, 87---------3,-2, 1 days, prior to the anniversary date.

now i need to redo cover letter and resend [ at additional cost ]

make note it was NOT rejected, it was just returned.

i even called them to verify that.

maybe this is to help keep the postal services afloat. lol.

thanks for the chance to vent------- i hope this might in someway help clarify this for others

You should never mail it before the 90 day window opens. Better to wait until after the 90th day and then mail. The instructions clearly say it will not be accepted early.

Sorry you wasted the cost of mailing.

[douie 0]

i am a 52 yr.old, natural born, english/american speaking US citizen.

this stated, i still have trouble understanding governmentese.

i prepared my wife's I-751 and sent it to the processing center in Vermont as stated within 90 days. cost of mailing, $5.80.

to me that would mean ,get it to them when you get close to the 90 day mark.

i think this because i hear about all of the concern about not getting it to them soon enough or just to close to the deadline.

well in the wisdom of our paperpushers, our packet was opened - cover letter removed - gone through- stamped- front of my envelope cut off and include, and RETURNED to me. cost of mailing $1.68.

REASON BEING-- the had received it 92 days prior to Ruby's anniversary date. i actual had mailed it the same day i recieved their letter telling us that we need to be aware that this paperwork was coming due.

THEIR meaning of 'within 90 days', means 90, 89, 88, 87---------3,-2, 1 days, prior to the anniversary date.

now i need to redo cover letter and resend [ at additional cost ]

make note it was NOT rejected, it was just returned.

i even called them to verify that.

maybe this is to help keep the postal services afloat. lol.

thanks for the chance to vent------- i hope this might in someway help clarify this for others

You should never mail it before the 90 day window opens. Better to wait until after the 90th day and then mail. The instructions clearly say it will not be accepted early.

Sorry you wasted the cost of mailing.

hey , i guess i should have counted the calender better.

who really expects the post office to be that efficient/quick?

[Usher 0]

Big deal man. You lost $5.18. A lot of people have been and are still going through much worse.

[jasminelily 1]

i am a 52 yr.old, natural born, english/american speaking US citizen.

this stated, i still have trouble understanding governmentese.

i prepared my wife's I-751 and sent it to the processing center in Vermont as stated within 90 days. cost of mailing, $5.80.

to me that would mean ,get it to them when you get close to the 90 day mark.

i think this because i hear about all of the concern about not getting it to them soon enough or just to close to the deadline.

well in the wisdom of our paperpushers, our packet was opened - cover letter removed - gone through- stamped- front of my envelope cut off and include, and RETURNED to me. cost of mailing $1.68.

REASON BEING-- the had received it 92 days prior to Ruby's anniversary date. i actual had mailed it the same day i recieved their letter telling us that we need to be aware that this paperwork was coming due.

THEIR meaning of 'within 90 days', means 90, 89, 88, 87---------3,-2, 1 days, prior to the anniversary date.

now i need to redo cover letter and resend [ at additional cost ]

make note it was NOT rejected, it was just returned.

i even called them to verify that.

maybe this is to help keep the postal services afloat. lol.

thanks for the chance to vent------- i hope this might in someway help clarify this for others

You should never mail it before the 90 day window opens. Better to wait until after the 90th day and then mail. The instructions clearly say it will not be accepted early.

Sorry you wasted the cost of mailing.

hey , i guess i should have counted the calender better.

who really expects the post office to be that efficient/quick?

Sorry that you've wasted your postage fee.

But you should feel lucky that they didn't just cashed that $545 application + biometrics check and flat out send you a denial notice. The instructions cleary stated:

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-751instr.pdf

1. Filing jointly. If you are filing this petition jointly with your spouse, you must file it during the 90 days immediately before the second anniversary of the date you were accorded conditional resident status. This is the date your conditional residence expires.

In this case, this is neither USCIS nor USPS nor the government's fault. People yelled at USPS being slow, now there is you to scream USPS being too efficient, what do you want them to do? I don't even know why I'm wasting my time here . Learn to read and buy yourself a pair of reading glasses. If people here reading my comments think that I'm being too harsh?! Be that as it may. I'm not going to take back what I said, I say what I mean and I mean what I say.

[-B&T- 1]

i am a 52 yr.old, natural born, english/american speaking US citizen.

this stated, i still have trouble understanding governmentese.

i prepared my wife's I-751 and sent it to the processing center in Vermont as stated within 90 days. cost of mailing, $5.80.

to me that would mean ,get it to them when you get close to the 90 day mark.

i think this because i hear about all of the concern about not getting it to them soon enough or just to close to the deadline.

well in the wisdom of our paperpushers, our packet was opened - cover letter removed - gone through- stamped- front of my envelope cut off and include, and RETURNED to me. cost of mailing $1.68.

REASON BEING-- the had received it 92 days prior to Ruby's anniversary date. i actual had mailed it the same day i recieved their letter telling us that we need to be aware that this paperwork was coming due.

THEIR meaning of 'within 90 days', means 90, 89, 88, 87---------3,-2, 1 days, prior to the anniversary date.

now i need to redo cover letter and resend [ at additional cost ]

make note it was NOT rejected, it was just returned.

i even called them to verify that.

maybe this is to help keep the postal services afloat. lol.

thanks for the chance to vent------- i hope this might in someway help clarify this for others

Thanks for sharing I'm sure other people will learn from your experienced.In my case,I waited like 3 days after my 90 days window opened so I had no issues with the mailing except that it took like 10 days to clear the Check and I freaked out a little bit from waiting for my NOA.Good luck Mr.Douie!

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Yeah, it's frustrating, isn't it? Some people have been caught out in a similar way by thinking 3 months instead of 90 days and arriving a day or two early with the same results as yours. Good luck with the re-filing and I hope you get a speedy decision.

[shakysgirl 1]

Hey I understand your need to vent (even if some other people on here don't). And I thank you for posting because I bet you anything you have saved at least one person similar grief!

[Alex 0]

Hey I understand your need to vent (even if some other people on here don't). And I thank you for posting because I bet you anything you have saved at least one person similar grief!

Attention to detail is important when dealing with USCIS.

[motu 5]

My friend filed AOS for his wife - and the whole thing came back because he forgot to check the box for husband/wife on I130 - It's the first box based on which the I130 is being filed - so yes it's frustrating - but also an important lesson; to be as thorough as possible (I also wondered why they couldn't have checked the box themselves in the USCIS office? They had the cover letter explaining the same thing as well as marriage certificate as proof.) Good Luck

[LastSurvivor 0]

For me the score is U.S.C.I.S. 1 and me the filer 1.

It really gets old when people complain when in fact they were the ones that made the mistake. Not the U.S.C.I.S.!

When my wife got her CGC we did everything by the book and got approved within 6 months. When we received the CGC it had her sex as M instead of F. All the paperwork was filled out properly but they did indeed make a mistake. They corrected it after I filed additional paperwork proving she was a female. It was a pain in the rear but they did work with me to fix the problem.

Now when I filed the I-751 somehow I typed in my date of death. Clearly I am not dead yet and because I read over the paperwork I caught that I was not really dead. It was my mistake. Upon printing out the new form somehow we forgot to sign the darn thing. My fault and the score is now even. It too came back after about 10 days.

Quit blaming the U.S.C.I.S (I know they are not perfect) but obviously we are not perfect either.

Will anyones life here change if it takes 11 months or 6 months to get a Permanent Green Card. You have not lost any rights and can still do whatever the heck you want including filing for Citizenship if your 10 year GC has not arrived yet. No big deal. I expect we get approved in the next week or two and if not we apply for Citizenship in May. Ain't nothing we can do about the timing!

LS

Edited March 25, 2009 by LastSurvivor

[douie 0]

to those who missed it------------------- i was venting, with the hope it would ,as others pointed out, show others check.check.check.then throw it into the wind and hope.

with regards to the cost, it's a mere drop in the bucket..this is a case of my giving back government gained money back to them.

i lamely tried to make some humour about the postal service.

what DID really irritate me was the loss/lack of any discretionary ability that our governmental entities have.

please --no lectures on how it makes OUR system of government the best.

rules vs. guidelines

if discretion was not such a prized attribute we wouldn't be coached to use it all the time!

they had checked the paperwork..

they have just compounded the amount of time they need to spend on this case. a case of self sustaining employment?

what it boils down to is, i am sick of being 'taught ' that those in government positions know what is best for me and that they will continue to bla bla bla-------- NOW I'M RANTING sorry

i my own way i guess i'll just muddle thru.

my apologies to those who i made waste their time correcting me---------- duh . i didn't say THEY were wrong in what they did according to the rules. i say they should have had the room to exercise some discretion.

thanks to all

GOD BLESS AMERICA as i couldn't live anywhere else !!!

[pnrmbr975 1]

If they received the package 92nd day before the second anniversary of the date your wife was accorded conditional resident status, you must have sent it 5 days early or more, way too early.

Having your wife's application returned to you is appropriate, no one to blame but you.

Thank you for sharing this. Others should learn from your experience.

Edited March 26, 2009 by pnrmbr975

[NickD 202]

1. Filing jointly. If you are filing this petition jointly with your spouse, you must file it during the 90 days immediately before the second anniversary of the date you were accorded conditional resident status. This is the date your conditional residence expires.

Say if your anniversary date is todays date 03/26/2009, so when you start counting back, do you include this day, or start from yesterday? To be safe, should include the anniversary date as the first day. Then it says "you must file it" since we do not file it in person but use such means as FedEx or the USPS, does this mean the expected date they receive it or the day you mailed it, again to be safe, mailed it 90 days counting the anniversary date as the first day.

But what's the rush with a day or two, when it took them 14 months and a week before we received our green cards?

Here is another regulation on your interview notice, can also be denied entry if you are one second late in showing up at your appointed time, even though you can sit in the waiting room for three long hours before being called in. But can also deny entry if you show up over 20 minutes ahead of time, so you can stand outside in the snow or the rain. But how can you deal with an agency that has the power of life or death over you? You can't, so you do precisely what you are told.