We think: Assault-weapons ban one way to fight back against violent crime

[Danno 1,228]

Frequently...there aint smoke without fire!

Trust me these guys were dumb and they were definitely rednecks. It wasn't a stereo type as such, just an observation of a certain demographic partaking in activities they are know to have a penchant for. If I was stereotyping I would have left out the dumb because we all know rednecks are dumb anyway.

You might want to be careful when you use such language. You feel comfortable using "RedNeck" to describe a low-class white and someone else feels comfortable Using WetBack to describe a low class Mexican and the next thing you know we are all trading insults rather than silly arguments.

[HAL 9000 96]

fozzie, you might just have to post the video link since RedNeck is now apparently offensive racial terminology, independent of rednecks being themselves many a times perpetrators of racial attacks against non-whites.

Poor, stereotyped rednecks. Victims.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Who needs an assault rifle?

1) Hunters? - This "sport" is already largely asinine. As an avid hiker I walk up within 50 feet of deer on a regular basis and could easily shoot them with my Glock if I were so inclined and easily amused. With hunting (specifically deer hunting) being akin to shooting cows in a field wouldn't it take the "sport" out of it to use such a weapon?

2) Concerned homeowners? - Your shotguns and handguns aren't enough? Untrained and frightened homeowners shooting guns at intruders in a potentially crowded neighborhood setting is already scary enough. Now you want something that can propel a single bullet through a body then through a wall then outside and down the street? There is no reason to have this much power for such close range use, especially when the nature of the weapon allows the ammunition to travel a great distance, whether it hits the initial target or not.

Also, has anyone noticed that homes (especially here in Athens) tend to get broken into quite frequently? If you have an AR-15 etc. laying around in your house then all of the sudden the thug down the street has it. I understand that the thug could steal your shotgun as well, but the damage that can be done with an assault rifle in the wrong hands is far greater.

Just because you interpret the constitution to give you a right doesn't mean that you should discount and avoid any further thought on the topic and take it to its absolute extreme. Rational beings weigh the pros and cons of an idea before making a decision. If you sit down and really think about this what are the pros and how important are they in light of the cons?

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There's a lot of knowledge in this thread about the intricacies of firing rate, caliber, etc.

The sensical rationale is- can a weapon mow down a roomful/range of people in less time that it takes you to load/fire/reload a single-firing weapon? These are the weapons that need to be controlled.

Any 'ban' IMO needs to be done at the manufacture level. The rest is law enforcement enforcing laws designed to target illegal ownership.

[natty bumppo 297]

yea because drug cartel people are gonna raid your houses.. as if you were in their interests..

please.. be more real about it.. yea I need a fukcin smg just in case the drug dealers raid my house.. same dumb argument as after 9/11 'we have buildings in our town dem terrorists would like to blow, like our walmart'

so now we've graduated from talking about assault rifles to smg's. neat! what's next, large caliber machine guns?

Who needs an assault rifle?

1) Hunters? - This "sport" is already largely asinine. As an avid hiker I walk up within 50 feet of deer on a regular basis and could easily shoot them with my Glock if I were so inclined and easily amused. With hunting (specifically deer hunting) being akin to shooting cows in a field wouldn't it take the "sport" out of it to use such a weapon?

because everyone who owns a gun has no common sense, right?

guess somebody spends a lot of time in populated areas ... for deer co-mingling with people ... cause these deer apparently are accustomed to people and have no fear of man.

Ask Matt Lauer. Didn't he just get rammed by a deer while on his bike? God knows he could have avoided this insult by splattering its guts all over the road.

near collision. he was traveling too fast doing down hill on his bike ... the deer didn't hear/see him and it stepped out on the road.

note: a few times I've ridden close to deer a that were standing by the road. as long as I wasn't seen/heard it was ok ... until they noticed me or heard the cassette click/gear change/ etc then they got spooked, and ran away (who wouldn't )

[Danno 1,228]

fozzie, you might just have to post the video link since RedNeck is now apparently offensive racial terminology, independent of rednecks being themselves many a times perpetrators of racial attacks against non-whites.

Poor, stereotyped rednecks. Victims.

I guess but you know Wetbacks get stereotyped as well.

[HAL 9000 96]

yea because drug cartel people are gonna raid your houses.. as if you were in their interests..

please.. be more real about it.. yea I need a fukcin smg just in case the drug dealers raid my house.. same dumb argument as after 9/11 'we have buildings in our town dem terrorists would like to blow, like our walmart'

so now we've graduated from talking about assault rifles to smg's. neat! what's next, large caliber machine guns?

Who needs an assault rifle?

1) Hunters? - This "sport" is already largely asinine. As an avid hiker I walk up within 50 feet of deer on a regular basis and could easily shoot them with my Glock if I were so inclined and easily amused. With hunting (specifically deer hunting) being akin to shooting cows in a field wouldn't it take the "sport" out of it to use such a weapon?

because everyone who owns a gun has no common sense, right?

guess somebody spends a lot of time in populated areas ... for deer co-mingling with people ... cause these deer apparently are accustomed to people and have no fear of man.

Ask Matt Lauer. Didn't he just get rammed by a deer while on his bike? God knows he could have avoided this insult by splattering its guts all over the road.

near collision. he was traveling too fast doing down hill on his bike ... the deer didn't hear/see him and it stepped out on the road.

note: a few times I've ridden close to deer a that were standing by the road. as long as I wasn't seen/heard it was ok ... until they noticed me or heard the cassette click/gear change/ etc then they got spooked, and ran away (who wouldn't )

My experiences with deer have always been pleasant encounters no matter the speed.

At some point though I will want to go on a hunt since I love the gamy taste of venison.

[Ban Hammer 13,360]

The sensical rationale is- can a weapon mow down a roomful/range of people in less time that it takes you to load/fire/reload a single-firing weapon? These are the weapons that need to be controlled.

Any 'ban' IMO needs to be done at the manufacture level. The rest is law enforcement enforcing laws designed to target illegal ownership.

the average .22 squirrel rifle would fall under that.

[HAL 9000 96]

fozzie, you might just have to post the video link since RedNeck is now apparently offensive racial terminology, independent of rednecks being themselves many a times perpetrators of racial attacks against non-whites.

Poor, stereotyped rednecks. Victims.

I guess but you know Wetbacks get stereotyped as well.

Of course. By idiots that can't tell the difference in why they get called that versus as to why rednecks get called what they themselves proudly call themselves...

[Ban Hammer 13,360]

Are AR-15s used by criminals in shootouts? Just curious.

have we settled the ar-15 is not an assault rifle debate yet?

Frequently...there aint smoke without fire!

Trust me these guys were dumb and they were definitely rednecks. It wasn't a stereo type as such, just an observation of a certain demographic partaking in activities they are know to have a penchant for. If I was stereotyping I would have left out the dumb because we all know rednecks are dumb anyway.

the dumbest people i've seen with firearms are city folks, not rednecks.

[HAL 9000 96]

The sensical rationale is- can a weapon mow down a roomful/range of people in less time that it takes you to load/fire/reload a single-firing weapon? These are the weapons that need to be controlled.

Any 'ban' IMO needs to be done at the manufacture level. The rest is law enforcement enforcing laws designed to target illegal ownership.

the average .22 squirrel rifle would fall under that.

Like I said... sensible. I haven't seen or heard of many squirrel rifles being used in the commission of violent crime.

Are AR-15s used by criminals in shootouts? Just curious.

have we settled the ar-15 is not an assault rifle debate yet?

Frequently...there aint smoke without fire!

Trust me these guys were dumb and they were definitely rednecks. It wasn't a stereo type as such, just an observation of a certain demographic partaking in activities they are know to have a penchant for. If I was stereotyping I would have left out the dumb because we all know rednecks are dumb anyway.

the dumbest people i've seen with firearms are city folks, not rednecks.

Wasn't my question was it?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

fozzie, you might just have to post the video link since RedNeck is now apparently offensive racial terminology, independent of rednecks being themselves many a times perpetrators of racial attacks against non-whites.

Poor, stereotyped rednecks. Victims.

I guess but you know Wetbacks get stereotyped as well.

Any sort of racial or group stereotyping is poor form regardless of who does it. Responding to one stereotype with another is silly ####### for tat, and does nothing for the discussion except to polarise it.

[Ban Hammer 13,360]

The sensical rationale is- can a weapon mow down a roomful/range of people in less time that it takes you to load/fire/reload a single-firing weapon? These are the weapons that need to be controlled.

Any 'ban' IMO needs to be done at the manufacture level. The rest is law enforcement enforcing laws designed to target illegal ownership.

the average .22 squirrel rifle would fall under that.

Like I said... sensible. I haven't seen or heard of many squirrel rifles being used in the commission of violent crime.

Are AR-15s used by criminals in shootouts? Just curious.

have we settled the ar-15 is not an assault rifle debate yet?

Frequently...there aint smoke without fire!

Trust me these guys were dumb and they were definitely rednecks. It wasn't a stereo type as such, just an observation of a certain demographic partaking in activities they are know to have a penchant for. If I was stereotyping I would have left out the dumb because we all know rednecks are dumb anyway.

the dumbest people i've seen with firearms are city folks, not rednecks.

Wasn't my question was it?

but by your definition above, they would fall under it. go reboot and come back.

[Kevin and 10]

The sensical rationale is- can a weapon mow down a roomful/range of people in less time that it takes you to load/fire/reload a single-firing weapon? These are the weapons that need to be controlled.

Any 'ban' IMO needs to be done at the manufacture level. The rest is law enforcement enforcing laws designed to target illegal ownership.

the average .22 squirrel rifle would fall under that.

Like this one.

[Ban Hammer 13,360]

Wasn't my question was it?

i'm just trying to figure out why so many think an ar-15 is an assault weapon, which steven showed earlier (after much foot nailing) in another thread does not meet the definition.

[HAL 9000 96]

The sensical rationale is- can a weapon mow down a roomful/range of people in less time that it takes you to load/fire/reload a single-firing weapon? These are the weapons that need to be controlled.

Any 'ban' IMO needs to be done at the manufacture level. The rest is law enforcement enforcing laws designed to target illegal ownership.

the average .22 squirrel rifle would fall under that.

Like I said... sensible. I haven't seen or heard of many squirrel rifles being used in the commission of violent crime.

Are AR-15s used by criminals in shootouts? Just curious.

have we settled the ar-15 is not an assault rifle debate yet?

Frequently...there aint smoke without fire!

Trust me these guys were dumb and they were definitely rednecks. It wasn't a stereo type as such, just an observation of a certain demographic partaking in activities they are know to have a penchant for. If I was stereotyping I would have left out the dumb because we all know rednecks are dumb anyway.

the dumbest people i've seen with firearms are city folks, not rednecks.

Wasn't my question was it?

but by your definition above, they would fall under it. go reboot and come back.

Still not my question. But along those lines... control allows for possession does it not? Yes- it does.