What is Going on at Fox News?

[Amby 490]

hey this thread is not the fashion police. let's leave that to joan rivers.

[_Simpson_ 250]

Any liberal accusing a conservative of whining is the joke of the bloody century.

All those years of hearing the left voice there concerns, sigh... you think there would be a little bit more understanding from the left

Edited March 19, 2009 by looking_up

[LoriLawless 0]

I watched the clip, I have a perfect right to comment on it. Are you suggesting that for some reason, because it's not my regular media diet I have no right to have a view on it? What a crock of ###### that is. That douche is a phony, the 9/12 project is a bunch of ####### and the whole concept uses emotional blackmail to produce, what? I nice collage of people's faces on a wall. Bravo, great job.

Now, again, what about that clip did you like? Did nothing about it make you feel even a little uncomfortable? Nothing about it made you think that perhaps there is something more to this than an expression of support for ones country (not that that does anything for me anyway, I think that's a crock of ###### too, but then I am a huge cynic).

MC remember I too am from a Briiiiiitish country. The one thing similar about our countries is that people generally don't give a ####### about politics unless some sort of bandwagon issue comes up. A Glenn Beck equivalent in either countries wouldn't even get five viewers. Whereas people here are actually involved when it comes to politics.

I have been critical of the country since day one but when it comes to politics people here are passionate. Which is good. On the other hand I just wish there was some middle ground as this same passion can quickly divide the country and be counter productive. Unfortunately lately divisiveness is gaining speed here hence why nobody can do anything right. Almost every superpower has collapsed due to similar bickering and divisiveness. Divisiveness leads to animosity. Which leads to destruction.

I totally agree with this. It's just too bad that between the media and politics, conservative (Republican *party*) and liberals (Democrat *party*) have become nothing but a joke. Nothing but a constant separation/division in this country with no middle ground in sight. I would guess that the average American has a bit of both in them. Too bad government can't follow our lead. Instead we follow theirs. It's all or nothing. One way or the other, and it's sad.

BTW, Hi Boo.

hey this thread is not the fashion police. let's leave that to joan rivers.

But...but.. I LOVE Diesel!

[Peikko 1,575]

Case closed, not one of you is actually interested in discussing what might be wrong with the program, you just want to jerk off on how you hate libruls. What a joke.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I actually watched the whole Glenn Beck show regarding the 9/12 project. The title 9/12 he picked because he felt that the day after 9/11 the people in the USA seemed to know what "doing the right thing" was - REGARDLESS OF PERSONAL POLITICAL BELIEFS. He feels ALL politicians should be held accountable and discussed the "assessment" that those in the military have to go through, suggesting that most politicians could not reach the high standards that the serving men of women of this country have to live by. I may not agree with everything he says - but I can only be constructively critical if I actually listen to what he says - maybe go check it out if i dont beleive it - but an open mind is essential.

I sometimes wonder if people dont want to listen to something because they are afraid they will have to see/hear something they wont like? Then they will be in a quandry that they may have to make changes? After all - the comfort zone is great - stepping out of it might be challenging and uncomfortable.

I don't believe that is the problem, the 'comfort zone' argument. I didn't watch any more than the clip, so if the actual program changed racidcally from the opening section, then it is possible that there is more to it than I first assumed. However, my problem is, I very much doubt I could ever watch ANY program that started in such a way. Here are my reasons.

First of all, what has this program have to do with news? It appears to me to be a personal appeal. How does it become editorially satisfactory to promote a personal appeal by the PRESENTER on a so called news show?

Second, the presenter uses cheap shots to draw in this audience. Who openly cries on tv to create a sense of what? Importance? Love of country? It's an emotional self indulgance and I personally find it incredibly creepy. No one has died, the politicfal system hasn't been overturned, nothing about today is different to that which was going on 6 months ago.

Thirdly, the appeal had no direction beyond asking people to indulge in some fantasy. Asking people to drawi on some 'american' ideals that were last portrayed nationaly after the 9/11 strike. What for? To feel good? Then what? What happens next?

Fourth, if someone has a genuine gripe against the way politicians conduct themselves then it behoves that person to come up with a workable alterantive, not just appeal to a sense of 'americanness' which is somehow going to magically change the coutnry for the better. I posted a link regarding a UK idea to involve more people in the political process. It was real and workable and certainly didn't involve any showmanship or ridiculous appeal to bring back the 'stiff upper lip' 'or other such nonsense.

There is a lot more, but I will leave you to address these criticisms for now.

This is a non-political movement. The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created.

That same feeling – that commitment to country is what we are hoping to foster with this idea. We want to get everyone thinking like it is September 12th, 2001 again.

Here's the link, decide for yourself. At least you can say you looked. Check out the Mission Statement, if the server is not jammed up.

http://theglennbeck912project.com/missionstatement/

[LoriLawless 0]

I actually watched the whole Glenn Beck show regarding the 9/12 project. The title 9/12 he picked because he felt that the day after 9/11 the people in the USA seemed to know what "doing the right thing" was - REGARDLESS OF PERSONAL POLITICAL BELIEFS. He feels ALL politicians should be held accountable and discussed the "assessment" that those in the military have to go through, suggesting that most politicians could not reach the high standards that the serving men of women of this country have to live by. I may not agree with everything he says - but I can only be constructively critical if I actually listen to what he says - maybe go check it out if i dont beleive it - but an open mind is essential.

I sometimes wonder if people dont want to listen to something because they are afraid they will have to see/hear something they wont like? Then they will be in a quandry that they may have to make changes? After all - the comfort zone is great - stepping out of it might be challenging and uncomfortable.

I don't believe that is the problem, the 'comfort zone' argument. I didn't watch any more than the clip, so if the actual program changed racidcally from the opening section, then it is possible that there is more to it than I first assumed. However, my problem is, I very much doubt I could ever watch ANY program that started in such a way. Here are my reasons.

First of all, what has this program have to do with news? It appears to me to be a personal appeal. How does it become editorially satisfactory to promote a personal appeal by the PRESENTER on a so called news show?

Second, the presenter uses cheap shots to draw in this audience. Who openly cries on tv to create a sense of what? Importance? Love of country? It's an emotional self indulgance and I personally find it incredibly creepy. No one has died, the politicfal system hasn't been overturned, nothing about today is different to that which was going on 6 months ago.

Thirdly, the appeal had no direction beyond asking people to indulge in some fantasy. Asking people to drawi on some 'american' ideals that were last portrayed nationaly after the 9/11 strike. What for? To feel good? Then what? What happens next?

Fourth, if someone has a genuine gripe against the way politicians conduct themselves then it behoves that person to come up with a workable alterantive, not just appeal to a sense of 'americanness' which is somehow going to magically change the coutnry for the better. I posted a link regarding a UK idea to involve more people in the political process. It was real and workable and certainly didn't involve any showmanship or ridiculous appeal to bring back the 'stiff upper lip' 'or other such nonsense.

There is a lot more, but I will leave you to address these criticisms for now.

This is a non-political movement. The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created.

That same feeling – that commitment to country is what we are hoping to foster with this idea. We want to get everyone thinking like it is September 12th, 2001 again.

Here's the link, decide for yourself. At least you can say you looked. Check out the Mission Statement, if the server is not jammed up.

http://theglennbeck912project.com/missionstatement/

See, I thought it was only me, that thought he never attacked our current administration, was just concerned over our country. I do remember the unity we had on 9-12 (I haven't read the link yet, but I will) and it's a shame we aren't united like that all the time.

[Peikko 1,575]

I actually watched the whole Glenn Beck show regarding the 9/12 project. The title 9/12 he picked because he felt that the day after 9/11 the people in the USA seemed to know what "doing the right thing" was - REGARDLESS OF PERSONAL POLITICAL BELIEFS. He feels ALL politicians should be held accountable and discussed the "assessment" that those in the military have to go through, suggesting that most politicians could not reach the high standards that the serving men of women of this country have to live by. I may not agree with everything he says - but I can only be constructively critical if I actually listen to what he says - maybe go check it out if i dont beleive it - but an open mind is essential.

I sometimes wonder if people dont want to listen to something because they are afraid they will have to see/hear something they wont like? Then they will be in a quandry that they may have to make changes? After all - the comfort zone is great - stepping out of it might be challenging and uncomfortable.

I don't believe that is the problem, the 'comfort zone' argument. I didn't watch any more than the clip, so if the actual program changed racidcally from the opening section, then it is possible that there is more to it than I first assumed. However, my problem is, I very much doubt I could ever watch ANY program that started in such a way. Here are my reasons.

First of all, what has this program have to do with news? It appears to me to be a personal appeal. How does it become editorially satisfactory to promote a personal appeal by the PRESENTER on a so called news show?

Second, the presenter uses cheap shots to draw in this audience. Who openly cries on tv to create a sense of what? Importance? Love of country? It's an emotional self indulgance and I personally find it incredibly creepy. No one has died, the politicfal system hasn't been overturned, nothing about today is different to that which was going on 6 months ago.

Thirdly, the appeal had no direction beyond asking people to indulge in some fantasy. Asking people to drawi on some 'american' ideals that were last portrayed nationaly after the 9/11 strike. What for? To feel good? Then what? What happens next?

Fourth, if someone has a genuine gripe against the way politicians conduct themselves then it behoves that person to come up with a workable alterantive, not just appeal to a sense of 'americanness' which is somehow going to magically change the coutnry for the better. I posted a link regarding a UK idea to involve more people in the political process. It was real and workable and certainly didn't involve any showmanship or ridiculous appeal to bring back the 'stiff upper lip' 'or other such nonsense.

There is a lot more, but I will leave you to address these criticisms for now.

This is a non-political movement. The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created.

That same feeling – that commitment to country is what we are hoping to foster with this idea. We want to get everyone thinking like it is September 12th, 2001 again.

Here's the link, decide for yourself. At least you can say you looked. Check out the Mission Statement, if the server is not jammed up.

http://theglennbeck912project.com/missionstatement/

What for? What will that achieve? What will all this 'feel good' stuff do for me, you, anyone?

I am not against change, I am not a member of a political party, but I am against joining something that has no aim beyond pulling at my emotional strings with no clear agenda. It's very much like religion, which I am also not a member of. I have no use of this stuff.

I will read the rest of it, just to be sure but, from what you posted, it's a movement with no goal and that's just stupid.

[Heracles 417]

Case closed, not one of you is actually interested in discussing what might be wrong with the program, you just want to jerk off on how you hate libruls. What a joke.

Cleo you need to actually watch the program before you can discuss it. But anyway I did watch it and I am proud of Glenn. I don't agree with many of his ultra conservative views but I am proud to see a guy who speaks up about his beliefs rather than spending time personally attacking someone like liberals do. Just have a look at Olbermann's show and wait for the worse person in the world and so on segments.

[Peikko 1,575]

Sorry, but that's just horse manure. That guy is going to end up fooling a lot of people and hurting them too. It's not like people don't have values, and it's not as if some ridiculous cult can change a country just by tapping into some emotional drivel. Seriously, it's like a cult, it's as clueless as a cult and you would have to be a fool to really believe in any of that stuff as a serious alternative to our political reality.

[LoriLawless 0]

Sorry, but that's just horse manure. That guy is going to end up fooling a lot of people and hurting them too. It's not like people don't have values, and it's not as if some ridiculous cult can change a country just by tapping into some emotional drivel. Seriously, it's like a cult, it's as clueless as a cult and you would have to be a fool to really believe in any of that stuff as a serious alternative to our political reality.

We can either lay back and accept things the way they are, or we can change it. I'm sorry but I won't give up hope that this country can possibly be in a better place someday. Not to say that it will happen overnight. But I won't stop hoping.

[Peikko 1,575]

I actually watched the whole Glenn Beck show regarding the 9/12 project. The title 9/12 he picked because he felt that the day after 9/11 the people in the USA seemed to know what "doing the right thing" was - REGARDLESS OF PERSONAL POLITICAL BELIEFS. He feels ALL politicians should be held accountable and discussed the "assessment" that those in the military have to go through, suggesting that most politicians could not reach the high standards that the serving men of women of this country have to live by. I may not agree with everything he says - but I can only be constructively critical if I actually listen to what he says - maybe go check it out if i dont beleive it - but an open mind is essential.

I sometimes wonder if people dont want to listen to something because they are afraid they will have to see/hear something they wont like? Then they will be in a quandry that they may have to make changes? After all - the comfort zone is great - stepping out of it might be challenging and uncomfortable.

I don't believe that is the problem, the 'comfort zone' argument. I didn't watch any more than the clip, so if the actual program changed racidcally from the opening section, then it is possible that there is more to it than I first assumed. However, my problem is, I very much doubt I could ever watch ANY program that started in such a way. Here are my reasons.

First of all, what has this program have to do with news? It appears to me to be a personal appeal. How does it become editorially satisfactory to promote a personal appeal by the PRESENTER on a so called news show?

Second, the presenter uses cheap shots to draw in this audience. Who openly cries on tv to create a sense of what? Importance? Love of country? It's an emotional self indulgance and I personally find it incredibly creepy. No one has died, the politicfal system hasn't been overturned, nothing about today is different to that which was going on 6 months ago.

Thirdly, the appeal had no direction beyond asking people to indulge in some fantasy. Asking people to drawi on some 'american' ideals that were last portrayed nationaly after the 9/11 strike. What for? To feel good? Then what? What happens next?

Fourth, if someone has a genuine gripe against the way politicians conduct themselves then it behoves that person to come up with a workable alterantive, not just appeal to a sense of 'americanness' which is somehow going to magically change the coutnry for the better. I posted a link regarding a UK idea to involve more people in the political process. It was real and workable and certainly didn't involve any showmanship or ridiculous appeal to bring back the 'stiff upper lip' 'or other such nonsense.

There is a lot more, but I will leave you to address these criticisms for now.

This is a non-political movement. The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created.

That same feeling – that commitment to country is what we are hoping to foster with this idea. We want to get everyone thinking like it is September 12th, 2001 again.

Here's the link, decide for yourself. At least you can say you looked. Check out the Mission Statement, if the server is not jammed up.

http://theglennbeck912project.com/missionstatement/

See, I thought it was only me, that thought he never attacked our current administration, was just concerned over our country. I do remember the unity we had on 9-12 (I haven't read the link yet, but I will) and it's a shame we aren't united like that all the time.

You believe wishful thinking solves problems? There are problems that we are all aware of, poverty, lack of education, lack of job opportunities, lack of health care. If you care about any of these problems, the problems that divide society then there are practical things that you can do, there always have been and not all of them involve being part of any political party or system. Seriously, are you really so easily brainwashed?

[Peikko 1,575]

Sorry, but that's just horse manure. That guy is going to end up fooling a lot of people and hurting them too. It's not like people don't have values, and it's not as if some ridiculous cult can change a country just by tapping into some emotional drivel. Seriously, it's like a cult, it's as clueless as a cult and you would have to be a fool to really believe in any of that stuff as a serious alternative to our political reality.

We can either lay back and accept things the way they are, or we can change it. I'm sorry but I won't give up hope that this country can possibly be in a better place someday. Not to say that it will happen overnight. But I won't stop hoping.

More horse whoey. What makes you think that not buying into this cult means I don't care, or lack hope, or want the place I live in to be a better place? What makes you think that I don't have values, that I don't do practical things to change my current environment? What makes you think I have been sitting waiting for some crazy guy on the tv to tell me what to do in order to improve both the lot of my self, my family and the society I live in?

Yes, it's true that politicians let us down a lot of the time, but the way to correct that is to be more involved all the time, not just when someone says how wonderful things were back in xyz wouldn't it be nice if?

[LoriLawless 0]

I actually watched the whole Glenn Beck show regarding the 9/12 project. The title 9/12 he picked because he felt that the day after 9/11 the people in the USA seemed to know what "doing the right thing" was - REGARDLESS OF PERSONAL POLITICAL BELIEFS. He feels ALL politicians should be held accountable and discussed the "assessment" that those in the military have to go through, suggesting that most politicians could not reach the high standards that the serving men of women of this country have to live by. I may not agree with everything he says - but I can only be constructively critical if I actually listen to what he says - maybe go check it out if i dont beleive it - but an open mind is essential.

I sometimes wonder if people dont want to listen to something because they are afraid they will have to see/hear something they wont like? Then they will be in a quandry that they may have to make changes? After all - the comfort zone is great - stepping out of it might be challenging and uncomfortable.

I don't believe that is the problem, the 'comfort zone' argument. I didn't watch any more than the clip, so if the actual program changed racidcally from the opening section, then it is possible that there is more to it than I first assumed. However, my problem is, I very much doubt I could ever watch ANY program that started in such a way. Here are my reasons.

First of all, what has this program have to do with news? It appears to me to be a personal appeal. How does it become editorially satisfactory to promote a personal appeal by the PRESENTER on a so called news show?

Second, the presenter uses cheap shots to draw in this audience. Who openly cries on tv to create a sense of what? Importance? Love of country? It's an emotional self indulgance and I personally find it incredibly creepy. No one has died, the politicfal system hasn't been overturned, nothing about today is different to that which was going on 6 months ago.

Thirdly, the appeal had no direction beyond asking people to indulge in some fantasy. Asking people to drawi on some 'american' ideals that were last portrayed nationaly after the 9/11 strike. What for? To feel good? Then what? What happens next?

Fourth, if someone has a genuine gripe against the way politicians conduct themselves then it behoves that person to come up with a workable alterantive, not just appeal to a sense of 'americanness' which is somehow going to magically change the coutnry for the better. I posted a link regarding a UK idea to involve more people in the political process. It was real and workable and certainly didn't involve any showmanship or ridiculous appeal to bring back the 'stiff upper lip' 'or other such nonsense.

There is a lot more, but I will leave you to address these criticisms for now.

This is a non-political movement. The 9-12 Project is designed to bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001. The day after America was attacked we were not obsessed with Red States, Blue States or political parties. We were united as Americans, standing together to protect the greatest nation ever created.

That same feeling – that commitment to country is what we are hoping to foster with this idea. We want to get everyone thinking like it is September 12th, 2001 again.

Here's the link, decide for yourself. At least you can say you looked. Check out the Mission Statement, if the server is not jammed up.

http://theglennbeck912project.com/missionstatement/

See, I thought it was only me, that thought he never attacked our current administration, was just concerned over our country. I do remember the unity we had on 9-12 (I haven't read the link yet, but I will) and it's a shame we aren't united like that all the time.

You believe wishful thinking solves problems? There are problems that we are all aware of, poverty, lack of education, lack of job opportunities, lack of health care. If you care about any of these problems, the problems that divide society then there are practical things that you can do, there always have been and not all of them involve being part of any political party or system. Seriously, are you really so easily brainwashed?

It's not wishful thinking. And on the opposite side, I could say you've given up. Would that not be a fair statement? I'm not saying that what he said is carved in stone, or will even make a difference. I do however believe that there is hope for a better future. Maybe not in my lifetime, but once you give up hope you have nothing else.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You don't walk any walk BY! All you do is talk and complain and make BS offers to fly people out to whatever benighted place you live in - so you can compare salaries, IQ levels and have a fist-fight.

You've never once stood up and said you're going to take personal action on the basis of your forum views. Not once. Ever.

If you feel so strongly about things on here perhaps you should set an example. Also known as "###### or get off the pot".

Hold on here matey. I am not the one who sits here and calls others idiots or directs other insults about their intelligence. You and your buddies here are the ones who have and do personally attack pretty much everyone here who you disagree with. How many times have any of us entered a thread and posted a personal attack of the get go or something along the lines of ignore these idiots bla bla bla. Or are you going to play dumb with that as well.

My favorite is when they attempt to write somebody off by saying that there concern is just whining.

My favorite is how you (as opposed to "they") so readily throw your lot in with a freak like BY out of some misplaced sense of political solidarity. He's not a "type", neither am I.

So if you want to see my attack on him as an attack on all things conservative, feel free.

Personally I think its rather silly.

[LoriLawless 0]

Sorry, but that's just horse manure. That guy is going to end up fooling a lot of people and hurting them too. It's not like people don't have values, and it's not as if some ridiculous cult can change a country just by tapping into some emotional drivel. Seriously, it's like a cult, it's as clueless as a cult and you would have to be a fool to really believe in any of that stuff as a serious alternative to our political reality.

We can either lay back and accept things the way they are, or we can change it. I'm sorry but I won't give up hope that this country can possibly be in a better place someday. Not to say that it will happen overnight. But I won't stop hoping.

More horse whoey. What makes you think that not buying into this cult means I don't care, or lack hope, or want the place I live in to be a better place? What makes you think that I don't have values, that I don't do practical things to change my current environment? What makes you think I have been sitting waiting for some crazy guy on the tv to tell me what to do in order to improve both the lot of my self, my family and the society I live in?

Yes, it's true that politicians let us down a lot of the time, but the way to correct that is to be more involved all the time, not just when someone says how wonderful things were back in xyz wouldn't it be nice if?

I never said any of those things about you.