unite and help all of us now & others later

[amberdima 6]

whatever the point is, the OP's letter is an atrocity. no respectable human being would honor those words. in fact, i only got past the second sentence before i decided it was #######. write a professional letter that demands the respect you desire.

[GordonFreeman 0]

With all do respect GordonFreeman, I think it is you that is missing the point. First of all a terrorist does not even have to be from another country. Second, you state that " the act of getting married is statistically a very low risk, trustworthy, legal immigration process chosen by people who mean no harm" It was that kind of thinking that led to the events of 9/11.

No, it wasn't. Have you been informed about the facts of what led to 9/11 in the last 7 years? Or you've just heard republican talking points?

Yes, I wish the process was shorter, but if you really think about it one year in not that long to wait for somebody. Espeacially if you love them.

On the contrary - Especially if you love them, it IS a very, very long time to keep 2 people separated. If it's not complete torture to be separated more than 2 weeks, you 2 probably don't really love each other.

You also state "What have I done to America to deserve this treatment?" Let me ask you, what have you done "FOR" America to have your request for petition expedited?

I have paid extra tuition as an international student for more than 2 years ($3000 instead of the regular $400 per semester at a community college). That extra money goes not only to the college, but part of it as a "tax payment" that ends up being heftier than what Americans pay. Besides, I worked on campus, employing my skills and talent for just pennies. I have contributed more to the country than most Americans of my age.

Before i start getting flamed about my post i would just like to say; I have no doubt that everyone here truly loves there significant other. And i do wish that my loved one and I can be reunited sooner, but I also know that there needs to be a process. Yes, the process has a few problems. Mainly with customer service and accurate reports of processing times. However just keep in mind that atleast there is a process and although 1 year may seem like a life-time it really is not that long in the whole scope of things.

There needs to be a process. But I'm not giving my full support to the current process. It needs a complete change. I don't feel sorry for the people who made these laws or enforce these laws, because I shouldn't. They don't feel sorry for me.

remember that the long wait will only make it that much sweeter at the end.

With all due respect - that's bullsh*t. If you really love someone that's bullsh*t. For the ones that are doing it just for the visa - maybe those will agree with that statement.

We are wasting valuable time that could be spent with our loved ones and trying to get things started with work and a life together. In the meantime, people who get married to others with the same nationality are already happy and prosperous with a head start of 2 years in comparison.

Edited March 20, 2009 by GordonFreeman

[Badgerella 5]

Goodluck to everyone here and remember that the long wait will only make it that much sweeter at the end.

The long wait is not making anything sweeter. At least that's how I feel about it.

However, if I'd been allowed to travel in and out of the US as I please, it would have been sweeter, the whole process. If I'd been treated like a human being, instead of a criminal (because we're all one, until proven otherwise, I assume), it would have been sweeter, as well.

I'll just agree with GordonFreeman - maybe those who are in it just for the Green Card might see some sugar and candy down the road and, therefore, do no thave problems with the wait itself. To me (and my fiance) this is just a horrible and, unfortunately, necessary part of a process that really should be done some other way around.

Edited March 20, 2009 by Badgerella

[GordonFreeman 0]

Goodluck to everyone here and remember that the long wait will only make it that much sweeter at the end.

The long wait is not making anything sweeter. At least that's how I feel about it.

However, if I'd been allowed to travel in and out of the US as I please, it would have been sweeter, the whole process. If I'd been treated like a human being, instead of a criminal (because we're all one, until proven otherwise, I assume), it would have been sweeter, as well.

I'll just agree with GordonFreeman - maybe those who are in it just for the Green Card might see some sugar and candy down the road and, therefore, do no thave problems with the wait itself. To me (and my fiance) this is just a horrible and, unfortunately, necessary part of a process that really should be done some other way around.

I thought I was alone here for a second! It angers me how some people can completely ignore the inhumanity of this process and just accept it as a natural thing in life. NO! I will NOT do that. I have my human rights and I deserve as much respect as any American, inside or outside of their country! Compliance without complaint is what allows this process in the first place

Edited March 20, 2009 by GordonFreeman

[amberdima 6]

Goodluck to everyone here and remember that the long wait will only make it that much sweeter at the end.

The long wait is not making anything sweeter. At least that's how I feel about it.

However, if I'd been allowed to travel in and out of the US as I please, it would have been sweeter, the whole process. If I'd been treated like a human being, instead of a criminal (because we're all one, until proven otherwise, I assume), it would have been sweeter, as well.

I'll just agree with GordonFreeman - maybe those who are in it just for the Green Card might see some sugar and candy down the road and, therefore, do no thave problems with the wait itself. To me (and my fiance) this is just a horrible and, unfortunately, necessary part of a process that really should be done some other way around.

I thought I was alone here for a second! It angers me how some people can completely ignore the inhumanity of this process and just accept it as a natural thing in life. NO! I will NOT do that. I have my human rights and I deserve as much respect as any American, inside or outside of their country! Compliance without complaint is what allows this process in the first place

the process IS grueling and stressful. it puts strain on every aspect of life and can lead to depression; however, i think the main theme of the posts is that the letter you want to send is unprofessional and that you should revise and edit the language that will not lead to assistance in your case. i wrote my congressman a respectful and well-planned request and he quickly responded and took action.

[maria teresa 0]

With all do respect GordonFreeman, I think it is you that is missing the point. First of all a terrorist does not even have to be from another country. Second, you state that " the act of getting married is statistically a very low risk, trustworthy, legal immigration process chosen by people who mean no harm" It was that kind of thinking that led to the events of 9/11.

No, it wasn't. Have you been informed about the facts of what led to 9/11 in the last 7 years? Or you've just heard republican talking points?

Yes, I wish the process was shorter, but if you really think about it one year in not that long to wait for somebody. Espeacially if you love them.

Especially if you love them, it IS a very, very long time to keep 2 people separated. If it's not complete torture to be separated more than 2 weeks, you 2 probably don't really love each other.

You also state "What have I done to America to deserve this treatment?" Let me ask you, what have you done "FOR" America to have your request for petition expedited?

I have paid extra tuition as an international student for more than 2 years ($3000 instead of the regular $400 per semester at a community college). That extra money goes not only to the college, but part of it as a "tax payment" that ends up being heftier than what Americans pay. Besides, I worked on campus, employing my skills and talent for just pennies. I have contributed more to the country than most Americans of my age.

Before i start getting flamed about my post i would just like to say; I have no doubt that everyone here truly loves there significant other. And i do wish that my loved one and I can be reunited sooner, but I also know that there needs to be a process. Yes, the process has a few problems. Mainly with customer service and accurate reports of processing times. However just keep in mind that atleast there is a process and although 1 year may seem like a life-time it really is not that long in the whole scope of things.

There needs to be a process. But I'm not giving my full support to the current process. It needs a complete change. I don't feel sorry for the people who made these laws or enforce these laws, because I shouldn't. They don't feel sorry for me.

remember that the long wait will only make it that much sweeter at the end.

With all due respect - that's bullsh*t. If you really love someone that's bullsh*t. For the ones that are doing it just for the visa - maybe those will agree with that statement.

We are wasting valuable time that could be spent with our loved ones and trying to get things started with work and a life together. In the meantime, people who get married to others with the same nationality are already happy and prosperous with a head start of 2 years in comparison.

9/11 could have been prevented with tighter security measures. I lost a family member in the WTC so do not question me about what i know about the last 7 years. I am also in the military and as i type this i am in the warzone and have seen my comrades leave here in boxes.

So what if you pay more for school! If thats your problem stop going. and you wont have to pay. That is no reason for your case to be expedited!

I have been shot and received a purple heart and yet im back in this place again. Yet my case can't get expedited but im not crying like a baby like you!!!

Consider yourself lucky to be in my great country of the US. In other countries you could be put to death for comments you have made about our lawmakers.

With NO RESPECT! you are a piece of s%#t if you dont like the laws of my country then go somewhere else. If you really love somebody everyminute a part is torture, yes I know and it is true. But if making people wait one year can prevent another incedent like 9/11 then so be it.

[Badgerella 5]

It's not GordonFreeman who started the thread, but someone else. The OP's letter indeed isn't something that needs to be sent because of the tone, grammar, etc. Many people before me have pointed those things out.

The process, however, really should be changed.

[amberdima 6]

It's not GordonFreeman who started the thread, but someone else. The OP's letter indeed isn't something that needs to be sent because of the tone, grammar, etc. Many people before me have pointed those things out.

The process, however, really should be changed.

oopsies....sorry gordanfreeman!!

[HannahP 119]

whatever the point is, the OP's letter is an atrocity. no respectable human being would honor those words. in fact, i only got past the second sentence before i decided it was #######. write a professional letter that demands the respect you desire.

I got the impression that English isn't the OP's first language.

/scratches head

[Chris and Steph 0]

With NO RESPECT! you are a piece of s%#t if you dont like the laws of my country then go somewhere else. If you really love somebody everyminute a part is torture, yes I know and it is true. But if making people wait one year can prevent another incedent like 9/11 then so be it.

You know what I love about America? The fact that we have the right to disagree with the laws that govern us and our law makers. If no one ever disagreed with our laws, we'd never move forward. Are you Bill O'Reilly incognito or something?

I don't think the background checks and what not are what tick people off about this process. I think it's waiting 6+ months for someone to spend 15 minutes on your case and approve it. I selected "customer" whenever I logged onto CRIS to check my status online. If I was a customer with a private organization, I most certainly would have demanded a refund. I understand they receive a crapload of petitions, but I personally think that employment based petitions should be the ones taking 6+ months and the family based petitions should be taking less than three months.

[GordonFreeman 0]

9/11 could have been prevented with tighter security measures. I lost a family member in the WTC so do not question me about what i know about the last 7 years. I am also in the military and as i type this i am in the warzone and have seen my comrades leave here in boxes.

So what if you pay more for school! If thats your problem stop going. and you wont have to pay. That is no reason for your case to be expedited!

I have been shot and received a purple heart and yet im back in this place again. Yet my case can't get expedited but im not crying like a baby like you!!!

Consider yourself lucky to be in my great country of the US. In other countries you could be put to death for comments you have made about our lawmakers.

With NO RESPECT! you are a piece of s%#t if you dont like the laws of my country then go somewhere else. If you really love somebody everyminute a part is torture, yes I know and it is true. But if making people wait one year can prevent another incedent like 9/11 then so be it.

If you lost someone or you're fighting in the war, doesn't concern this matter. My condolences and I'm sorry for the situation, but I'm not responsible for it, so don't talk to me like I am.

Oh but I did not stop going to school - and that's the point. I paid the money I was asked. To America. Telling me to go home is just a retarded ad hominem attack...

If for you, pointing out flaws in the system = crying like a baby, then you definitely will never do anything to improve the way your country works.

What other countries? Maybe in mid eastern countries, or North Korea, they would kill you - not in Europe. Americans conveniently forget that there are more free and developed countries in the world besides America. And by the way, Europeans enjoy more individual freedoms than Americans. And I happen to be European so your comment didn't really affect me. I'm not going to the US looking for freedom, I've always had that.

And you have no right to ever question my decision to go to whatever country I feel like going to.

If you really think this 1 year waiting has anything to do with 9/11, you have been mislead and you should seek more education on the subject. Being a purple heart hero does not make you automatically knowledgeable on this subject.

PS: and by the way, I didn't start the topic - whoever wrote that letter is retarded and should improve their english skills before even thinking of protesting whatever it is and be respected doing it. I came in here to criticize something I read in that letter - and I didn't even read it completely. Her english is so terrible that her becoming a successful immigrant actually disrespects Americans more than anything I could ever say about the legal immigration process.

Edited March 20, 2009 by GordonFreeman

[Cacerez 19]

I don't think the background checks and what not are what tick people off about this process. I think it's waiting 6+ months for someone to spend 15 minutes on your case and approve it. I selected "customer" whenever I logged onto CRIS to check my status online. If I was a customer with a private organization, I most certainly would have demanded a refund. I understand they receive a crapload of petitions, but I personally think that employment based petitions should be the ones taking 6+ months and the family based petitions should be taking less than three months.

I agree with this post, of all the arguing in this topic, more than all the others. Especially during an economic crisis, it's funny that people are brought here for no reason other than to work faster than bringing families together (who, yes, will eventually work, but only for necessity; other than some cases of visa fraud, these ones are not coming here just to work.)

HelloWorld's letter was much better written, although in case anyone is planning on copying and pasting, paragraph two should be loved ones instead of love ones.

[iLoveAPolishGirl 0]

While I too believe this process could and should go much faster and support any reasonable petition to that effect, I must note that:

The problem with this process (like my K1) is to force the couple to be separated (living in different countries) during a period of time that can go from 6 months to more than a year.

Is simply not true. One's petitioned fiance(e) can legally enter the country under a tourist visa for an initial period of 6 months to 1 year, then petition to extend that stay for indefinite periods of 6 months each. Also, there is nothing stopping the petitioner from visiting the fiance(e)'s country or any other country where they could be together. So the process, in fact, simply does not "force" couples to remain apart.

dvc

[True_Patriot 0]

9/11 could have been prevented with tighter security measures. I lost a family member in the WTC so do not question me about what i know about the last 7 years.

In U.S. History, the majority of terrorist acts on US soil have been carried out by natural-born American citizens. Abortion clinic bombings, Oklahoma City, the Anthrax attacks, the Unabomber, it goes on and on. Where is your outrage there? Everything could be "prevented by tighter security." We could all live in sterile little boxes attached to our beds, and not allowed to go out or congregate without government approval, such as in North Korea, and terrorism would be very low and these such attacks would be prevented. Is it worth giving up so many freedoms for a tiny bit of extra security just because people with paranoid victim mentalities such as yourself truly believe that they are instant experts on all issues simply because a family member of theirs died? The founders of America were intelligent men, and they said, "He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security."

The spineless insecurity and irrational fears of people such as yourself got us into Iraq and have led to some of the worst human rights violations and intrusions into American freedoms in generations. You LET THE TERRORISTS WIN by being so weak that you take your fear upon yourself and hurt us all. Shame on you.

I am also in the military and as i type this i am in the warzone and have seen my comrades leave here in boxes.

I have been shot and received a purple heart and yet im back in this place again. Yet my case can't get expedited but im not crying like a baby like you!!!

Your response to many of the people in this thread is, "Well, it was your choice to marry a foreigner, so these are the consequences, be lucky you have anything at all and stop whining." So, buddy, it was your choice to be in the military, probably so you could alleviate your overwhelming sense of irrational insecurity by toting a gun around. As a consequence, you're in a warzone and wow, you can get shot at, especially if you're in the particular country that wasn't even responsible for any 9/11 stuff in the first place (Iraq.) Be glad you have your life, represent a pretty damn good country that was founded on the best ideals in the world, do your service to your country and stop crying like a baby.

So what if you pay more for school! If thats your problem stop going. and you wont have to pay. That is no reason for your case to be expedited!

If your problem is the people in this thread, just stop coming to this site, and it won't be a problem. If you can't afford your healthcare, just don't go. No problem. If your 401K got wiped out because of the greed of corporate special interests, just don't ever retire. No problem. Who cares whether the cause of these things is fair or logical or not, right? If you disagree, just throw them out the window by saying "just choose not to." Is your brain really this simplistic?

Consider yourself lucky to be in my great country of the US. In other countries you could be put to death for comments you have made about our lawmakers.

I do consider myself lucky, until I meet some of my fellow compatriots such as you, who are weak, fearful, insecure people who take that weakness out with aggression and hatred toward others. America is great, but so are other countries. I can think of only a few countries which in VERY EXTREME cases, "people were put to death for comments you have made about our lawmakers." Are you saying that America rocks because it's not the worst gross excesses of North Korea? Wow, your standards are high, buddy. What ever happened to an America that is always constantly improving itself and fighting for more freedom and rights? That means for ALL, not just for you in which to feel safe despite your overwhelming terror and xenophobia of some imagined evildoers.

With NO RESPECT! you are a piece of s%#t if you dont like the laws of my country then go somewhere else. If you really love somebody everyminute a part is torture, yes I know and it is true. But if making people wait one year can prevent another incedent like 9/11 then so be it.

Respect has to be earned. You have earned nothing but contempt from the bigoted, xenophobic and irrational way you have treated others. Anyone who says "if you don't like MY country you can get out," shows himself as a weak-minded, insecure little person. This is not "your country." It is everyone's country. It was founded on being everyone's country. You cannot bend its founding ideals to suit your paranoid delusions.

You, go ahead and fight to offer your freedoms and liberties, and the freedoms of your countrymen, so you can feel a little more secure about those evil foreigners out there, lurking. While cancer, heart attacks, car accidents, murder and starvation happen every day, about a thousand times more often than terrorism... and you sit back, silent, barking about how we all need to treat people, whether Americans or foreigners or those of a different color skin, more like criminals because, in effect, they scare you... and you are a scared, scared little person.

I, on the other hand, am a true patriot, and I will be exercising my right to defend the original, humanistic ideals of America. I will fight for the teeming, huddled masses. As for you fearful cowards stand, go shivering on whatever corner of whatever shore you please. You're welcome to it.

[maria teresa 0]

9/11 could have been prevented with tighter security measures. I lost a family member in the WTC so do not question me about what i know about the last 7 years. I am also in the military and as i type this i am in the warzone and have seen my comrades leave here in boxes.

So what if you pay more for school! If thats your problem stop going. and you wont have to pay. That is no reason for your case to be expedited!

I have been shot and received a purple heart and yet im back in this place again. Yet my case can't get expedited but im not crying like a baby like you!!!

Consider yourself lucky to be in my great country of the US. In other countries you could be put to death for comments you have made about our lawmakers.

With NO RESPECT! you are a piece of s%#t if you dont like the laws of my country then go somewhere else. If you really love somebody everyminute a part is torture, yes I know and it is true. But if making people wait one year can prevent another incedent like 9/11 then so be it.

If you lost someone or you're fighting in the war, doesn't concern this matter. My condolences and I'm sorry for the situation, but I'm not responsible for it, so don't talk to me like I am.

Oh but I did not stop going to school - and that's the point. I paid the money I was asked. To America. Telling me to go home is just a retarded ad hominem attack...

If for you, pointing out flaws in the system = crying like a baby, then you definitely will never do anything to improve the way your country works.

What other countries? Maybe in mid eastern countries, or North Korea, they would kill you - not in Europe. Americans conveniently forget that there are more free and developed countries in the world besides America. And by the way, Europeans enjoy more individual freedoms than Americans. And I happen to be European so your comment didn't really affect me. I'm not going to the US looking for freedom, I've always had that.

And you have no right to ever question my decision to go to whatever country I feel like going to.

If you really think this 1 year waiting has anything to do with 9/11, you have been mislead and you should seek more education on the subject. Being a purple heart hero does not make you automatically knowledgeable on this subject.

PS: and by the way, I didn't start the topic - whoever wrote that letter is retarded and should improve their english skills before even thinking of protesting whatever it is and be respected doing it. I came in here to criticize something I read in that letter - and I didn't even read it completely. Her english is so terrible that her becoming a successful immigrant actually disrespects Americans more than anything I could ever say about the legal immigration process.

Yes i agree a purple heart does not make me knowledgeable about the situation. I was just pointing out the fact that people have gone through worst things then having to pay extra for school. And that the ammount you paid is NO reason for your petition to be expedited. Yes the one year has something to do with 9/11, that and along with the surge of petitions that came in awhile back. 8 years ago the wait time for the whole k1 process was less than 6 months. My sister in law steped foot on US land in less then 4 months with a k1 visa in 2000.

I will not post on this topic anymore because that is not what I am here for. I am here to receive help and to give it when i can. However, when i feel like somebody is disrespecting my country that i truly love i will defend it. Good Luck to everyone