Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I was lying, I don't feel anything for you. I find you hilarious though, this constant effort to demonize one side of the political spectrum. Oh no, the libruls are coming, hide!

I was lying, too. I don't even think you're real, but you are uninteresting.

Oh dear VW, what a mess that post is. English is your first language, isn't it?

As a matter of fact, it isn't.

But yet, you have never used this excuse for posting gobbledigook before, so why start now?

I answered your question. I didn't say it was an excuse. What's the reason for your gooblygook?

[Peikko 1,575]

Perhaps you shouldn't try to use words you are unfamiliar with. I don't require an excuse, it wasn't my post that made no sense.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Perhaps you shouldn't try to use words you are unfamiliar with. I don't require an excuse, it wasn't my post that made no sense.

That's a matter of opinion, not fact.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Perhaps you shouldn't try to use words you are unfamiliar with. I don't require an excuse, it wasn't my post that made no sense.

Let me translate...... blah blah blah

[DeadPoolX 9]

maybe some of them are American, meaning they were born here or they naturalized.... which does happen believe it or not

Marilyn I wasn't born yesterday. Born here but don't speak a word of English. If what you are saying is the case, people should have no problem mandating that every business using ballout money must use e-verify to validate the work status of all their employees.

oh so now you are saying you talked to each and every worker you saw and found out they don't speak English ...lol

there are people who live here legally who don't speak much or any English.. it isn't that far fetched... I know a few people like that even..

yes some of those workers probably are illegal.. but you can't just see an Hispanic person mowing the lawn and automatically assume he is an illegal....

my in-laws are originally from Mexico and they live here legally. as matter of fact my FIL recently became a citizen after being a permanent resident for many years...

That's the real issue right there. We're at the point where it's become practically impossible to tell an illegal Hispanic from a legal Hispanic. This sort of confusion can only hurt the Hispanics who are legally in the U.S. as people will mistake them for illegals.

I see a civil war brewing in the near future. There's going to become a sharp divide between those who tolerate or accept illegals and those who're steadfastly against them. Eventually violence will break out and rhetoric will turn into gunfire. People on all sides of the fence will die, including those who probably don't care either way.

As I said above, it's become difficult to tell which Hispanic is here illegally over those who're legal. Hispanics will be fought against and I'm sure many legal Hispanics (including natural-born Hispanic Americans) will be gunned down, simply due to the fact they're Hispanic. Their legality or lack thereof will mean virtually nothing.

Perhaps all of this seems extreme, but I can't see anything positive coming out of the country's current situation. We're headed straight down a path that leads to internal conflict. That's sad since all of it could be prevented by taking the necessary steps against illegal immigration.

For the record, I don't approve or want a second civil war. However, I see it as an inevitable outcome. I'm in Canada so I'll get a penthouse view of all the carnage without actually dealing with it myself. So none of this really matters a whole lot to me, but I'd think that people living in the U.S. would be interested.

[Heracles 417]

Someone would have to be a totally out of touch with reality to fail to accept that we have Americans living on the streets and in tents while illegal immigrants continue to be employed and send money out of America. There are not too many, if any, other first world countries that would tolerate this. Certainly not when their own citizens are almost starving and living on the streets. Of course there are a lot of people who don't care since many of the supporters of illegal immigration are in white collar positions. Minute chance that an illegal will affect them, right? Wrong.

Sure they kick and scream at outsourcing yet ironically many of these same people simply don't give a ####### about about their fellow blue collar Americans who are losing their homes due to lack of work. All while pro illegal lobbyist and groups have the nerve to promote their cause. Unfortunately for many the hens have come home to roast. Something I have been saying for years now. They should have taken a basic economics course in college or high school as they would realize we are all in this together. If one sector goes, so does everything else. Hence like it or not many white collar workers are suffering and will continue to suffer as long as those blue collar Americans they don't care about are suffering too.

I could go take a photo of any construction project in the area and every single worker I photograph will be Hispanic. I guarantee it. Maybe they are here legally. Yet as I asked earlier, can someone please tell me which visa they came in on. I know a lot of people around the world who they too would like to use this same unlisted unskilled visa to enter.

That is a bloody disgrace.

Edited March 20, 2009 by Constellation

[almaty 19]

I could go take a photo of any construction project in the area and every single worker I photograph will be Hispanic. I guarantee it. Maybe they are here legally..

i doubt, you believe any hispanic is here legally

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I could go take a photo of any construction project in the area and every single worker I photograph will be Hispanic. I guarantee it. Maybe they are here legally..

i doubt, you believe any hispanic is here legally

Agreed. I worked for a construction/surveying company in LA when I got my temporary EAD.

[Heracles 417]

i doubt, you believe any hispanic is here legally

So how did they enter? Which Visa did they use?

Agreed. I worked for a construction/surveying company in LA when I got my temporary EAD.

Six you need actual muscles to work in construction.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

i doubt, you believe any hispanic is here legally

So how did they enter? Which Visa did they use?

People generally don't go around asking to see people's papers based on their ethnicity. I don't consider it my business to ask private individuals personal information - the way I figure it, it has nothing whatsoever to do with me.

[Heracles 417]

i doubt, you believe any hispanic is here legally

So how did they enter? Which Visa did they use?

People generally don't go around asking to see people's papers based on their ethnicity. I don't consider it my business to ask private individuals personal information - the way I figure it, it has nothing whatsoever to do with me.

There not. Inspectors should pick random projects and ask for everyone's ID. Regardless of race, every single construction employee should need to be e-verified for work eligibility. Every single dollar of Federal American taxpayer bailout money should only be used and available to Americans first and then legal residents. Now is not the time or economy to be playing poor Hispanics games and allowing billions of dollars to flow to Mexico.

Basic Economics Lesson: Every dollar shipped to Mexico is a dollar taken out of the US economy. Every dollar taken out of the US economy means less wealth and work for Americans. Now multiply this by billions. Hence why your own mother country, like all other countries, is so strict on illegal immigration.

It is a fact that a good portion of this federal taxpayer funded bailout will go to construction which means a lot of employers hiring illegal immigrants will benefit. This may even trigger a new wave of illegals as they come here to capitalize on the construction. All while homeless Americans live in tents.

PS As I asked earlier, if these unskilled laborers are here legally, which visa did they use to enter the United States?

Edited March 20, 2009 by Constellation

[peejay 327]

I could go take a photo of any construction project in the area and every single worker I photograph will be Hispanic. I guarantee it. Maybe they are here legally..

i doubt, you believe any hispanic is here legally

We'll never know, will we?

Not until the clowns running the country now continue to hold E-Verify hostage to a mass blanket illegal alien amnesty. These anti-Americans are more concerned with illegal aliens than they are with the monthly job losses of 500,000 and upcoming 10% unemployment. They chose to continue to blame Bush.

Bush don't work here anymore! They do! And we can see what they are doing to protect American workers. Apparently according to Pelosi workplace authorization and anti illegal immigration law enforcement is "un-American".

I say the failure to enforce these laws is anti-American! E-Verify now!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You do realise that not everyone of color is a first generation immigrant.... You *are* aware of this right?

I'm just trying to picture the expense and logistics of hiring inspectors to audit the 10's of thousands of active constructions sites across the country - ranging from uncontracted day labourers, to the guy in the lunch van.

[Heracles 417]

This is where I know you are clueless six. On one hand you talk about the plight of African Americans and cut down anyone who offers any solution to assist them. Apart from anyone using history as a means to justify the present, but anyway. Yet on the other hand you also have no problem with illegal immigration.

Therefore, would you rather these jobs or any job be a stepping stone for African Americans. Or do you prefer illegal immigrants prosper? It's one way or another.

You do realise that not everyone of color is a first generation immigrant.... You *are* aware of this right?

I'm just trying to picture the expense and logistics of hiring inspectors to audit the 10's of thousands of active constructions sites across the country - ranging from uncontracted day labourers, to the guy in the lunch van.

Oh that must be it. So the 20,000,000 illegal immigrants are made up stats are they.

But anyway, if we mandate e-verify these legal immigrants won't have an issue then, right?

Edited March 20, 2009 by Constellation

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

This is where I know you are clueless six. On one hand you talk about the plight of African Americans and cut down anyone who offers any solution to assist them. Apart from anyone using history as a means to justify the present, but anyway. Yet on the other hand you also have no problem with illegal immigration.

Therefore, would you rather these jobs or any job be a stepping stone for African Americans. Or do you prefer illegal immigrants prosper? It's one way or another.

This is where *I* know you are clueless BY - you're (again) ascribing positions and opinions to me that I don't hold, with the implication that I am somehow defend myself from them.

You do realise that not everyone of color is a first generation immigrant.... You *are* aware of this right?

I'm just trying to picture the expense and logistics of hiring inspectors to audit the 10's of thousands of active constructions sites across the country - ranging from uncontracted day labourers, to the guy in the lunch van.

Oh that must be it. So the 20,000,000 illegal immigrants are made up stats are they.

But anyway, if we mandate e-verify these legal immigrants won't have an issue then, right?

Firstly the 20,000,000 is an estimate (on the high-end) of the number of illegal immigrants in this country. The truth is noone knows how many there are - but the estimates vary wildly between 11 million and 20 million. Might as well be made up numbers for how verifiable they are.

But this of course has nothing to do with what I said - you seem to look at ethnicity and make some bald assumption that anyone hispanic looking that you happen to bump into has a dice roll chance of being an illegal immigrant (and should presumably be harrassed and detained anyway - for good measure).

E-Verify might be the way to go - if they can cut down on the error rate and address the concerns that have been raised about data security.