Secret's out!

[Peikko 1,575]

Far more worrying than any bias, left or right, is the prevelance of 'voyeur' journalism and journalism that seeks to promote 'outrage' merely to sell copy. What a crock of ###### that is.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Far more worrying than any bias, left or right, is the prevelance of 'voyeur' journalism and journalism that seeks to promote 'outrage' merely to sell copy. What a crock of ###### that is.

[Peikko 1,575]

Minimize harm seems to have been left on the shelf in the pursuit of the 'juicy' story. I should probably watch that film

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Oh for pete sakes. Any trained journalist will tell ya it's up to the consumer to differentiate.

[_Simpson_ 250]

I am referring to the regular news, what they report, what they dont report and how they report this news. Considering this do you find that the LA times is left leaning?

Yes I find these guidelines very reasonable, a good guide for journalists. I feel like I might be walking into a trap though, what is the point you are trying to make? It would be nice if journalists were this ideal but they are not and I believe that alot of our papers today reflect that they are far from it.

No trap with that list. I was trying to find something well written concerning journalistic integrity and found that.

As to your first question - how do you quantify a 'left leaning bias' with regard to regular news? I would agree that some news outlets don't always live up to the integrity they pretend to hold dear to, but for every New York Times you could call as left leaning, I could name a New York Post or Washington Times as right leaning. I'm not sure what the solution is when it comes to regular news, except to help schools that teach journalism to instill in their students the critical importance that journalistic integrity plays in protecting our democratic ideals. It's not so easy to really quantify a bias in general, but I agree you can find bias in particular story, how it was covered and the choice of words used.

How do I quanify? One way is to count up all the media outlets that tend to lean to the left. Some stories may not be bias but if the majority of the stories are bias then I would dub that as leaning one way or the other. Outside of radio most major media outlets are liberal or leaning to the left, you disagree with that and think its more balanced so I guess that would leave us at a standstill because there's no way to prove it really

[one...two...tree 2,762]

As to your first question - how do you quantify a 'left leaning bias' with regard to regular news? I would agree that some news outlets don't always live up to the integrity they pretend to hold dear to, but for every New York Times you could call as left leaning, I could name a New York Post or Washington Times as right leaning. I'm not sure what the solution is when it comes to regular news, except to help schools that teach journalism to instill in their students the critical importance that journalistic integrity plays in protecting our democratic ideals. It's not so easy to really quantify a bias in general, but I agree you can find bias in particular story, how it was covered and the choice of words used.

How do I quanify? One way is to count up all the media outlets that tend to lean to the left. Some stories may not be bias but if the majority of the stories are bias then I would dub that as leaning one way or the other. Outside of radio most major media outlets are liberal or leaning to the left, you disagree with that and think its more balanced so I guess that would leave us at a standstill because there's no way to prove it really

Look at a particular news outlet as an example, like the New York Times. When it comes to their front page news, I'm asking you, how do you determine if a regular news story is slanted to the left? By the subject matter? Choice of words? The journalist's political leanings? How about the managing editor's political leanings, since he/she is the one who decides what stories make the front page? I agree that some stories and even some news media outlets can lean left or right, but simply calling a news outlet left or right without defining how you determine that is not a convincing argument by itself. If the NYT does a piece on the state's Governor who happens to be Democrat, does that make the story lean left? What if it's a story critical of the Governor, does that make the story lean right?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Its pretty easy to say that so and so is biased, and people tend to form preconceptions on the basis of what other people have said.

I wonder if anyone here has actually tried looking at the content of an issue of the NYT, or an entire Fox News Television program etc and tried to work out for themselves what the bias is.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Yes they do. Ppl get masters and doctorates in that. ^ I'm looking at several programs myself for after graduation.

[_Simpson_ 250]

As to your first question - how do you quantify a 'left leaning bias' with regard to regular news? I would agree that some news outlets don't always live up to the integrity they pretend to hold dear to, but for every New York Times you could call as left leaning, I could name a New York Post or Washington Times as right leaning. I'm not sure what the solution is when it comes to regular news, except to help schools that teach journalism to instill in their students the critical importance that journalistic integrity plays in protecting our democratic ideals. It's not so easy to really quantify a bias in general, but I agree you can find bias in particular story, how it was covered and the choice of words used.

How do I quanify? One way is to count up all the media outlets that tend to lean to the left. Some stories may not be bias but if the majority of the stories are bias then I would dub that as leaning one way or the other. Outside of radio most major media outlets are liberal or leaning to the left, you disagree with that and think its more balanced so I guess that would leave us at a standstill because there's no way to prove it really

Look at a particular news outlet as an example, like the New York Times. When it comes to their front page news, I'm asking you, how do you determine if a regular news story is slanted to the left? By the subject matter? Choice of words? The journalist's political leanings? How about the managing editor's political leanings, since he/she is the one who decides what stories make the front page? I agree that some stories and even some news media outlets can lean left or right, but simply calling a news outlet left or right without defining how you determine that is not a convincing argument by itself. If the NYT does a piece on the state's Governor who happens to be Democrat, does that make the story lean left? What if it's a story critical of the Governor, does that make the story lean right?

How I determine it is by what the final results are, the stories that are distributed to the people. So its all of the above, choice of words, what there reporting etc. It the over all tone of the newspaper, not just one report but the consistency they show of there reporting. I think we can agree that NY Times is on the left and Fox is on the right. The distance to the left and right could be debated. My point being is that we can tell when something is biased with out getting down to the nitty gritty of who is to blame and why. One of the many reasons I would consider fox to be right leaning is the hannity and colmbs show. You have sean the conservitive who is the all american looking guy and colmbs the liberal who looks like a vampire well spoken but nevertheless he looks like a vampire. I cant help but to think that this might of played a factor when the chronies at Fox got together and came up with the idea. They were targeting the right, they know thats where there bread and butter is. Another example is when it comes to Christmas. The amount of stories I hear about how the left is trying to take Christ out of Christmas drives me nuts. There is some truth to it but the amount of reporting they do on it is in my opinion is over the top but the big part of there audience is to the right, they target the right and thus making them biased.