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My fiancee got a white slip yesterday! I have been on the phone with her for most of the night so please forgive my grammar. She was the first person to be called in for her interview and there was an American CO with a woman translator. She said everything went well and she had answered all questions given to her. The interview took fifteen min's never asked her for any chat telephone or e-mails! She asked him if he wanted to see them but he waved her off.

He did look at the photos but just glanced at them.

O.K. this is what they want..... the white slip is just a form letter asking for a new time line! The one I sent was six pages long and described everything "written and typed". I know now what sent up a red flag was my bank savings at the time of starting this process. I had been laid off my job and only had $1500 in the bank! But I own a condo worth 350.000 which I rent out. My father loaned me money to pay for the airline tickets and I paid in cash! They want three Months of bank statements from that time period. I am afraid it won't show much as I was getting my life back together. I work and have a good pay scale and have been recently been accepted for a border patrol job!

Also my father is good friends with my Fiancees Aunt's Uncle! They worked in Vietnam together for many years. They wanted to know the company they both worked for in Vietnam and, how long my father has owned his house. They also asked all the regular questions that have been posted here.

They also want to have a detailed statement from her about the relationship with her Aunt.

I realize now the mistakes I had made but my God these are not interviews it is more like an inquisition.We are deeply in love and this has really made me feel as if I'm losing it!!!! Don't know if I should retain a lawyer "Mark Ellis" suppose I put the cart before the horse but really at a lose as what to do.

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the white slip is just a form letter asking for a new time line

So give them what they want, from what your wrote, it appears they are questioning the timing of some events of the information you all ready sent.

Re-check to make sure you put in dates in your 6 page document.

Do you make enough income to meet the 125% poverty level? Are you the only sponsor on the I-134?

If they are asking for a statement from her about her Aunt - that means they are questioning if this is just an application for immigration only, not marriage.

Ensure you document fully your history with her, and provide a lot of evidence (phone logs/chat logs/letters)

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

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My fiancee got a white slip yesterday! I have been on the phone with her for most of the night so please forgive my grammar. She was the first person to be called in for her interview and there was an American CO with a woman translator. She said everything went well and she had answered all questions given to her. The interview took fifteen min's never asked her for any chat telephone or e-mails! She asked him if he wanted to see them but he waved her off.

He did look at the photos but just glanced at them.

O.K. this is what they want..... the white slip is just a form letter asking for a new time line! The one I sent was six pages long and described everything "written and typed". I know now what sent up a red flag was my bank savings at the time of starting this process. I had been laid off my job and only had $1500 in the bank! But I own a condo worth 350.000 which I rent out. My father loaned me money to pay for the airline tickets and I paid in cash! They want three Months of bank statements from that time period. I am afraid it won't show much as I was getting my life back together. I work and have a good pay scale and have been recently been accepted for a border patrol job!

Also my father is good friends with my Fiancees Aunt's Uncle! They worked in Vietnam together for many years. They wanted to know the company they both worked for in Vietnam and, how long my father has owned his house. They also asked all the regular questions that have been posted here.

They also want to have a detailed statement from her about the relationship with her Aunt.

I realize now the mistakes I had made but my God these are not interviews it is more like an inquisition.We are deeply in love and this has really made me feel as if I'm losing it!!!! Don't know if I should retain a lawyer "Mark Ellis" suppose I put the cart before the horse but really at a lose as what to do.

First, you do exactly what they ask you to do. I doubt they are worried about the relative size of your bank account. Your case fits a fraud scenario where you are being paid to help your fiance immigrate. They would be looking for unusual deposits, so a consistently low balace would actually work in your favor on the one side and no visibility into how the tickets were paid for works against you on the other side. I suggest you proceed with this in mind without addressing it with any direct denials. Let the facts contradict their assumption.

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Sorry I did not reply sooner! I retained a lawyer in Vietnam "Mark Ellis" my fiancee will see him Tuesday or I presume his associates. I never in my wildest dreams thought this would happen how can two people who love each other as much as we do have this happen?? I have read enough on these forums to know that there is fraudulent marriages and engagements...who in there right mind would go through all this unless they are in love? I made one mistake and it sent up a red flag and that is what they responded to. The rest of the information two years of e-mail chats, telephone bills,pictures, getting engaged buying rings Etc! Made no difference!!! My time line is six pages long and has every date and time we talked or met.

The red flag is that my Dad had lent me the $$ to obtain a ticket and it was in cash and for this we will have to suffer???

Today I got the three months of bank receipts, and now need to write a letter on how my father knows my fiancees Aunts Husband. They both are Vietnam vets and worked in Vietnam as civilians I had put that in the time line but did not elaborate on it. My fiancees Aunt lives in Washington and I in Calif. we have met three times. When I look at all this in retrospect I can see why the CO seen red flags but what can I do now to prove are love??

She got a white paper what is the difference from a blue and white???? Again I thank each and everyone here for all the help....... :crying:

First, you do exactly what they ask you to do. I doubt they are worried about the relative size of your bank account. Your case fits a fraud scenario where you are being paid to help your fiance immigrate. They would be looking for unusual deposits, so a consistently low balace would actually work in your favor on the one side and no visibility into how the tickets were paid for works against you on the other side. I suggest you proceed with this in mind without addressing it with any direct denials. Let the facts contradict their assumption.
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The red flag is that my Dad had lent me the $$ to obtain a ticket and it was in cash and for this we will have to suffer???

That is a strange red flag. Do you have a ticket for the amount of money your dad lent you?

Or did he lend you $20,000 and you bought a $2,000 ticket? (example values)

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My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

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My Dad lent me the money and was in cash! I paid in cash and got a receipt from the travel agent saying I payed in cash. Lord who would have thought this would cause a problem??

The red flag is that my Dad had lent me the $$ to obtain a ticket and it was in cash and for this we will have to suffer???

That is a strange red flag. Do you have a ticket for the amount of money your dad lent you?

Or did he lend you $20,000 and you bought a $2,000 ticket? (example values)

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By the way I always hear about the blue slip and pink! What is the difference between the blue and white?? Thanks

Pink means you passed interview and visa will be issued

Blue means that you lack some document and they give you a chance to obtain the proper documents and probably will give you a Pink

White means that they denied your request for a visa because lack of evidence or some other red flags...

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By the way I always hear about the blue slip and pink! What is the difference between the blue and white?? Thanks

Pink means you passed interview and visa will be issued

Blue means that you lack some document and they give you a chance to obtain the proper documents and probably will give you a Pink

White means that they denied your request for a visa because lack of evidence or some other red flags...

In China that's what white means but clearly in this case the white paper was a request for additional information, like the blue in China would be. There are no rules about the color paper used for notices.

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By the way I always hear about the blue slip and pink! What is the difference between the blue and white?? Thanks

Pink means you passed interview and visa will be issued

Blue means that you lack some document and they give you a chance to obtain the proper documents and probably will give you a Pink

White means that they denied your request for a visa because lack of evidence or some other red flags...

In China that's what white means but clearly in this case the white paper was a request for additional information, like the blue in China would be. There are no rules about the color paper used for notices.

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Thanks for that information it seems there really is no distinction between the blue and the white! I've seen them both and they are identical and just different in information they want! I also seen on the net that some consulates issue a green or is that from the past? I suppose what I'm getting at.. is one worse then the other? And when I resubmit my paperwork will they look at them as a judgmental thing! Thanks

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Welcome to the HCMC consulate. You will have to do as pushbrk suggests. They are seeing signs of fraud and you will need to prove that it isn't.

Give them all the evidence that you can gather. Don't assume anything.

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Thanks for that information it seems there really is no distinction between the blue and the white! I've seen them both and they are identical and just different in information they want! I also seen on the net that some consulates issue a green or is that from the past? I suppose what I'm getting at.. is one worse then the other? And when I resubmit my paperwork will they look at them as a judgmental thing! Thanks

Allowing you to submit more evidence is far better than notifying you they intend to send the case back to USCIS with a recommendation to revoke the petition approval.

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Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

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By the way I always hear about the blue slip and pink! What is the difference between the blue and white?? Thanks

What exactly does the letter say? I have not heard of them issuing a white slip in VN asking for more info. Always blue.

Also, did your fiancee have the interview in English or Vietnamese?

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My fiancee got a white slip yesterday! I have been on the phone with her for most of the night so please forgive my grammar. She was the first person to be called in for her interview and there was an American CO with a woman translator. She said everything went well and she had answered all questions given to her. The interview took fifteen min's never asked her for any chat telephone or e-mails! She asked him if he wanted to see them but he waved her off.

He did look at the photos but just glanced at them.

O.K. this is what they want..... the white slip is just a form letter asking for a new time line! The one I sent was six pages long and described everything "written and typed". I know now what sent up a red flag was my bank savings at the time of starting this process. I had been laid off my job and only had $1500 in the bank! But I own a condo worth 350.000 which I rent out. My father loaned me money to pay for the airline tickets and I paid in cash! They want three Months of bank statements from that time period. I am afraid it won't show much as I was getting my life back together. I work and have a good pay scale and have been recently been accepted for a border patrol job!

Also my father is good friends with my Fiancees Aunt's Uncle! They worked in Vietnam together for many years. They wanted to know the company they both worked for in Vietnam and, how long my father has owned his house. They also asked all the regular questions that have been posted here.

They also want to have a detailed statement from her about the relationship with her Aunt.

I realize now the mistakes I had made but my God these are not interviews it is more like an inquisition.We are deeply in love and this has really made me feel as if I'm losing it!!!! Don't know if I should retain a lawyer "Mark Ellis" suppose I put the cart before the horse but really at a lose as what to do.

Can you post your white slip??

CR1/IR1 Timeline:

GENERAL INFO

[*]12-xx-2007 - 1st Trip (6wks) & Met him halfway around the world

[*]03-xx-2008 - Got engaged - two people on opposite sides of the world

[*]05-xx-2008 - 2nd Trip (2wks) - Engagement/Marriage/Consummation

[*]06-12-2008 - Filed I-130 (CR-1) with Vermont Service Center

[*]12-xx-2008 - 3rd Trip (4wks)

[*]06-05-2009 - Interview at 9:00am at HCMC Consulate (result: blue)

[*]07-08-2009 - Submitted RFE: Beneficiary's Relatives & Evidence of Relationship

[*]08-xx-2009 - 4th Trip (4wks)

[*]10-07-2009 - AP 91 days - Result: APPROVED!!

[*]10-31-2009 - POE: Detroit, MI

[*]11-18-2009 - Social Security Card

[*]11-20-2009 - Green Card

[*]01-21-2010 - Driver's License

THE NEXT STEPS...

[*]02/07/2011 - Renew Vietnam Passport

[*]07/30/2011 - Process of Removing Conditions Begins

[*]09/25/2011 - Date of I-751

[*]09/28/2011 - NOA1

[*]10/19/2011 - Biometrics

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