waiver for meeting in person

[littlebabygirl 0]

Truly the best way to overcome this c**p is to let my boyfriend pay the amount for his back support so he could get a passport to visit me here.

C**p?

How is it this? if your boyfriend took care of his responsibilities, you wouldn't have this issue.

But yes, once he takes care of his back payments, (below $2,500), then he can get the passport and visit you.

As I suspected, since PAYING child support has no affect on passports or travel. Or K-1 visas for that matter. NOT paying is the problem. So what YOU need to consider is that your intended is not paying child support as Bobby Umit pointed out. It is NOT C**p, it is a failure in his responsibilities and if he is paying his current child support plus the arrearage I do not see where he falls far behind unless he was not paying for some time which negates the "since the economy went bad" argument. I mean at $80 per month it takes quite some time to run up $2500 in arrearage and quite some time to pay it off. You have known him for, was it, 4 years? This is a big surprise to you? But the way it works is that courts, in most states, cannot take more than 50% of his after tax income for child support so the $80 could be a default figure above and beyond his usual payment due. It may be all they are allowed by law to take.

You need to hold his feet to the fire for YOUR sake and get some answers because otherwise you are spinning your wheels with a deadbeat. If it sounds harsh, so be it. But this is also your future and you are considering it with a person that has never had a passport, I mean, who's doing the thinking here?

Good luck

aside from the $80 back support he is paying monthly. he is paying $350 weekly. i still havent talked with my boyfriend since i post this issue. i still didnt know how much is his arrears. and yes i wont be selfish in this situtation. first and foremost, his children is the most important here.

[FormelyCA 0]

aside from the $80 back support he is paying monthly. he is paying $350 weekly. i still havent talked with my boyfriend since i post this issue. i still didnt know how much is his arrears. and yes i wont be selfish in this situtation. first and foremost, his children is the most important here.

$1400 a month? How many kids does he have?

Edited March 16, 2009 by carrieandadrian11

[rebeccajo 14]

$350 weekly in child support?

How many children are we talking about here?

What kind of job does your boyfriend have?

[rmncm 0]

Accually 350 a week in child support isnt that much when you figure in a few factors. Being her SO is behind in support, child support services is authorized by law to take up to 50% of his wages although they usually wont do that unless he is in the rears a lot, say more then 5k. I know this as at one point I was $19,000 in the rears on child support according to my ex (I accually wasnt my exwife lied) but child support service was taking 50% of my wages. In my case I was able to hire a attny and after the smoke cleared my ex owed me back a few thousound but thats like getting blood from a turnip. My point is if he is in the rears on support they can take 50% of his wages,take his drivers licence, any professional licence and his passport and there isnt much he can do but he may be able to hire a attny and get some modifications done. Your situation is grim and you should do some soul searching if you really want to get involved with a man paying this kind of money per month till his child(ren) turn 19...

[RodneyandMaristel 0]

I am sorry for your bad news littlebabygirl, maybe you got a few good pointers out of all this.

i just would like to cap a few things if you and your bf have been talking for the past 4 years some where along the way he should have thought about coming to visit you and found he wasn't able to leave the US. i can say the US and the rest of the world has had bad times in the past 2 years. But be open and honest with one anther.

Be safe and well travels to you littlebabygirl.

[DEDixon 39]

To pay whatever he owes, then to save cash to go to the RP, then to come back and save for the immigration fees..... wow, it could be a long time before he is able to file. There are lots of fees along the way. Not just immigration fees, but if you don't live in Manila, you'll have to travel there and may need financial assistance from him to go. The medical, hotel, flight to Manila, food in Manila, it adds up even in a poor country.

Your BF saving for his Manila trip..... I've never been able to visit the RP for less than 3000 and I live on the west coast where flights are somewhat cheap.

Also, another question is "how many kids does he have?" This is important, because he might not be over the poverty line to qualify as a petitioner.

Everyone speaks of paying it down, but the dude could be over 10,000 in arrears easily. Given the way time flies while deadbeat fathers are out having fun after they separate/divorce, he could be very much beyond 10,000 in arrears. When they don't pay, it usually takes a lot to get them to pay and by the time they start paying, they are way behind.

littlebabygirl, as painful as it might be for you, you might want to get on over to cebuanas.com to meet someone else. Really, for all you know, your boyfriend has no cash at all and so he chats at you from his mom's computer in the basement of his mom's house. If you don't know anyone that knows him personally that can verify what he tells you, you should be careful not to take all that he says as the truth.

Edited March 17, 2009 by DEDixon

[Soancika+Brian 0]

Hi,

It just feels that your boyfriend is not telling the whole truth to you. It would be very risky to come here ,and marry somebody you have never met personaly. And people here are right,if he is way behind paying his child support ,how is he planning on getting money to come see you, and pay all the immigration fees?

Wish you all the best!

[littlebabygirl 0]

To pay whatever he owes, then to save cash to go to the RP, then to come back and save for the immigration fees..... wow, it could be a long time before he is able to file. There are lots of fees along the way. Not just immigration fees, but if you don't live in Manila, you'll have to travel there and may need financial assistance from him to go. The medical, hotel, flight to Manila, food in Manila, it adds up even in a poor country.

Your BF saving for his Manila trip..... I've never been able to visit the RP for less than 3000 and I live on the west coast where flights are somewhat cheap.

Also, another question is "how many kids does he have?" This is important, because he might not be over the poverty line to qualify as a petitioner.

Everyone speaks of paying it down, but the dude could be over 10,000 in arrears easily. Given the way time flies while deadbeat fathers are out having fun after they separate/divorce, he could be very much beyond 10,000 in arrears. When they don't pay, it usually takes a lot to get them to pay and by the time they start paying, they are way behind.

littlebabygirl, as painful as it might be for you, you might want to get on over to cebuanas.com to meet someone else. Really, for all you know, your boyfriend has no cash at all and so he chats at you from his mom's computer in the basement of his mom's house. If you don't know anyone that knows him personally that can verify what he tells you, you should be careful not to take all that he says as the truth.

no. this will never be a reason for me to leave him and trade for another american...another man who has money or no extra baggage. im here to seek help as to what we can do for us to resolve the issue and i really appreciate all the advice/comments i got here. i love him so much and ive already accepted him for who he is and what he have and what he dont have.

[littlebabygirl 0]

Hi,

It just feels that your boyfriend is not telling the whole truth to you. It would be very risky to come here ,and marry somebody you have never met personaly. And people here are right,if he is way behind paying his child support ,how is he planning on getting money to come see you, and pay all the immigration fees?

Wish you all the best!

yes maybe he didnt tell me all about his child support (that he is behind) but still i should give him the benefit of the doubt. afterall, i should be the one who understand him about this issue.

[littlebabygirl 0]

To pay whatever he owes, then to save cash to go to the RP, then to come back and save for the immigration fees..... wow, it could be a long time before he is able to file. There are lots of fees along the way. Not just immigration fees, but if you don't live in Manila, you'll have to travel there and may need financial assistance from him to go. The medical, hotel, flight to Manila, food in Manila, it adds up even in a poor country.

little expenses like medical, travel to Manila would not be a problem for me 'cause i have a job here.

[LucyLovesRicky 0]

Hi guys!

This is my first time to post and i need your support guys to help me with our situation. Me and my fiance were together since 2007. We have a big problem now. We cant start filing the K1 petition 'cause we still havent met in person. My fiance is not allowed to travel abroad 'cause he is paying child support. And I have read in some situation posted here that we can apply for a waiver since my fiance cant come here to meet me due to the existing law in his country but i also read some advice that if the petitioner couldnt meet the beneficiary, the beneficiary should make an effort or move by going to petitioner's country to meet him.

Now I am thinking so hard what we should do here? Im planning to apply for tourist visa to see my fiance but applying for tourist visa is very difficult here in my country. And if ever i get approved Im afraid i might be hold at the port of entry 'cause of my reason why i want to be there. I know i must show prrof that i will comeback here in our country and not intend to live in my fiance's country. In my heart i know i will definitely comeback here so we can start legally the K1 process. But if ever i get denied (tourist visa), do you think that is enough reason so we can apply for a waiver? I mean if i get denied, can we use the embassy decision being denied to apply for waiver of not meeting in person and start to file the K1 petition?

Thank you guys in advance!

#1 you will not get a waiver for this reason. Dream on.

#2 Paying child support has absolutely nothing to do with traveling abroad. He told you that? And you believe it?

PS NOT paying child support could have something to do with it.

He is probably in arrears with the government. Meaning his children may have lived on welfare for a time while he paid nothing. They will not grant him a paaport until it and all interest is paid in full. They are afraid he will leave the country and never come back to pay his debt.

[luv2uallday 1]

My fiance is not allowed to travel abroad 'cause he is paying child support.

The reason you described (above) doesn't sound like a reason to not have met in person nor does it seem it would qualify for a waiver of the (meet in person) requirement.

actually you MAY be wrong. because if a noncustodial parent who is charged with child support falls behind a set amount I beleive it's 5 or 7 thousand dollars then a hold will be placed on that person barring him or her from attaining a passport or renewing a passport until the child support is caught up or is working in progress.

that is what the poster might be saying. Because paying child support in itself would not limit you from seeing your fiance. It's the block on the passport that would

He possibly could qualify in my opinion since he is inhibited by the Goverment from leaving the counrty. That could be a valid case but need to talk to a lawyer to get the facts this lady can't get a clear and cut answer from us. She needs to consult a immigration attorney for a clear direction

[Brit Abroad 166]

I'd be kinda worried about this dude, OP.

1. If you're legally going to take on his debts, you should be in full knowledge of them BEFORE you go into the relationship on a permanent basis.

2. Has he applied for a passport and been refused? Had one and had it revoked? Is this the ONLY reason a passport isn't available for him to travel?

The other reason passports aren't issued is if the person applying has a criminal record. Please be sure that you have the truth. All of it. Having a

romantic daydream about someone that proves untrue is not just heartbreaking, it's also souldestroying and could leave you in a real legal mess.

3. If your fiance is stuck with repaying child support, how long is this for? How secure is his job? Will this leave him able to afford the fees for you to

enter the US, and to apply for your greencard after marriage? Perhaps more importantly, will he even pass the legal financial requirement to

sponsor your fiance petition? Presuming he DOES, will his current financial mess and failure to honor commitments to his children be a black mark

against him financially on USCIS/FBI searches?

4. If everything above tallies up to an honest score, then can he really afford to support you as well as his kids? Are you absolutely 100% certain that

you will have a roof over your head, food in your mouth, and medical insurance for when you get sick with all the stress of trying to support him?

From what I see, you appear to be rather young and somewhat romantically idealistic. You need to bust this guy's balls for the truth, so that you know EXACTLY what his position is and what YOUR position will be. This is YOUR life you're committing and, honestly, this guy is beating my red flag drum with a mighty big stick.

Please, for your own sake, look into this a lot more thoroughly. I wish you well and hope that he's the good man you believe in.

[sara..... 371]

I'd be kinda worried about this dude, OP.

1. If you're legally going to take on his debts, you should be in full knowledge of them BEFORE you go into the relationship on a permanent basis.

2. Has he applied for a passport and been refused? Had one and had it revoked? Is this the ONLY reason a passport isn't available for him to travel?

The other reason passports aren't issued is if the person applying has a criminal record. Please be sure that you have the truth. All of it. Having a

romantic daydream about someone that proves untrue is not just heartbreaking, it's also souldestroying and could leave you in a real legal mess.

3. If your fiance is stuck with repaying child support, how long is this for? How secure is his job? Will this leave him able to afford the fees for you to

enter the US, and to apply for your greencard after marriage? Perhaps more importantly, will he even pass the legal financial requirement to

sponsor your fiance petition? Presuming he DOES, will his current financial mess and failure to honor commitments to his children be a black mark

against him financially on USCIS/FBI searches?

4. If everything above tallies up to an honest score, then can he really afford to support you as well as his kids? Are you absolutely 100% certain that

you will have a roof over your head, food in your mouth, and medical insurance for when you get sick with all the stress of trying to support him?

From what I see, you appear to be rather young and somewhat romantically idealistic. You need to bust this guy's balls for the truth, so that you know EXACTLY what his position is and what YOUR position will be. This is YOUR life you're committing and, honestly, this guy is beating my red flag drum with a mighty big stick.

Please, for your own sake, look into this a lot more thoroughly. I wish you well and hope that he's the good man you believe in.

[rebeccajo 14]

Accually 350 a week in child support isnt that much when you figure in a few factors. Being her SO is behind in support, child support services is authorized by law to take up to 50% of his wages although they usually wont do that unless he is in the rears a lot, say more then 5k. I know this as at one point I was $19,000 in the rears on child support according to my ex (I accually wasnt my exwife lied) but child support service was taking 50% of my wages. In my case I was able to hire a attny and after the smoke cleared my ex owed me back a few thousound but thats like getting blood from a turnip. My point is if he is in the rears on support they can take 50% of his wages,take his drivers licence, any professional licence and his passport and there isnt much he can do but he may be able to hire a attny and get some modifications done. Your situation is grim and you should do some soul searching if you really want to get involved with a man paying this kind of money per month till his child(ren) turn 19...

That's sort of what I was thinking.

It sounds more to me like the $350 per week is an amount being collected to cover back support.