Sufficient evidence of having met my fiancée in the past two years?

[Mike B. 231]

I am wondering if I have sufficient evidence of having met my fiancée in the past two years for our I-129F. Here is what I have:

Photographs. The last time I visited my fiancée I Lima, where she lives, I forgot to set the camera so that the date would be printed on the picture. I don’t know if that hurts me given that any idiot could submit a photo with an incorrect date on it anyway. We do have a bunch of photos of us together, though, including several in which the two of us are standing in front of a Christmas tree. I think that might help given that my passport will show that the only time I was in Peru in December was in 2007 and 2008.

Passport stamps. I don’t know if this helps, because it doesn’t really prove that I met her, but I can show that I have gone down to Peru a whole bunch of times, that I got a whole bunch of “extension of stay” stamps in Lima, where she lives, and that my trips to Peru are generally in agreement with what I said in my statement answering Question 18 of the 129-F

Hotel receipts. Again, this really only shows that I was in Lima, not that I was with her, but I managed to get receipts for all of the times that I paid a hotel down there. Thank God I always stay at the same hotel and they have a record of all of my payments.

Boarding pass stub. I kept the stub of the boarding pass I used to get on a plane on January 1, 2009 in Lima. I forgot to keep the stub from my flight down there. Again, doesn’t really prove that we met, but does prove that I, along with 8 million other people, was in her city.

Bus tickets. This, to me, is the clearest piece of irrefutable proof that we have met. I have copies of two bus tickets from Lima to another city which include our names and ID numbers. The tickets show that in December 2008 the two of us bought bus tickets in sequential order one minute apart from one another, and that we sat next to each other on the ride. I think this would have been absolutely impossible had we never actually met one another. The downside? The way that the printer printed out these tickets was kind of messed up, and they are hard to read. I don’t know how much effort USCIS puts into reading these things.

So what do you think? Do I have enough evidence? Is there something in particular that I should include or exclude? Should I write something up explaining all of this evidence?

[Gerjoel 0]

I am wondering if I have sufficient evidence of having met my fiancée in the past two years for our I-129F. Here is what I have:

Photographs. The last time I visited my fiancée I Lima, where she lives, I forgot to set the camera so that the date would be printed on the picture. I don’t know if that hurts me given that any idiot could submit a photo with an incorrect date on it anyway. We do have a bunch of photos of us together, though, including several in which the two of us are standing in front of a Christmas tree. I think that might help given that my passport will show that the only time I was in Peru in December was in 2007 and 2008.

Passport stamps. I don’t know if this helps, because it doesn’t really prove that I met her, but I can show that I have gone down to Peru a whole bunch of times, that I got a whole bunch of “extension of stay” stamps in Lima, where she lives, and that my trips to Peru are generally in agreement with what I said in my statement answering Question 18 of the 129-F

Hotel receipts. Again, this really only shows that I was in Lima, not that I was with her, but I managed to get receipts for all of the times that I paid a hotel down there. Thank God I always stay at the same hotel and they have a record of all of my payments.

Boarding pass stub. I kept the stub of the boarding pass I used to get on a plane on January 1, 2009 in Lima. I forgot to keep the stub from my flight down there. Again, doesn’t really prove that we met, but does prove that I, along with 8 million other people, was in her city.

Bus tickets. This, to me, is the clearest piece of irrefutable proof that we have met. I have copies of two bus tickets from Lima to another city which include our names and ID numbers. The tickets show that in December 2008 the two of us bought bus tickets in sequential order one minute apart from one another, and that we sat next to each other on the ride. I think this would have been absolutely impossible had we never actually met one another. The downside? The way that the printer printed out these tickets was kind of messed up, and they are hard to read. I don’t know how much effort USCIS puts into reading these things.

So what do you think? Do I have enough evidence? Is there something in particular that I should include or exclude? Should I write something up explaining all of this evidence?

although it seems you have enough evidence another thing to show is if you guys have been writing letters, greeting cards or perhaps email too.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I am wondering if I have sufficient evidence of having met my fiancée in the past two years for our I-129F. Here is what I have:

Photographs. The last time I visited my fiancée I Lima, where she lives, I forgot to set the camera so that the date would be printed on the picture. I don’t know if that hurts me given that any idiot could submit a photo with an incorrect date on it anyway. We do have a bunch of photos of us together, though, including several in which the two of us are standing in front of a Christmas tree. I think that might help given that my passport will show that the only time I was in Peru in December was in 2007 and 2008.

Passport stamps. I don’t know if this helps, because it doesn’t really prove that I met her, but I can show that I have gone down to Peru a whole bunch of times, that I got a whole bunch of “extension of stay” stamps in Lima, where she lives, and that my trips to Peru are generally in agreement with what I said in my statement answering Question 18 of the 129-F

Hotel receipts. Again, this really only shows that I was in Lima, not that I was with her, but I managed to get receipts for all of the times that I paid a hotel down there. Thank God I always stay at the same hotel and they have a record of all of my payments.

Boarding pass stub. I kept the stub of the boarding pass I used to get on a plane on January 1, 2009 in Lima. I forgot to keep the stub from my flight down there. Again, doesn’t really prove that we met, but does prove that I, along with 8 million other people, was in her city.

Bus tickets. This, to me, is the clearest piece of irrefutable proof that we have met. I have copies of two bus tickets from Lima to another city which include our names and ID numbers. The tickets show that in December 2008 the two of us bought bus tickets in sequential order one minute apart from one another, and that we sat next to each other on the ride. I think this would have been absolutely impossible had we never actually met one another. The downside? The way that the printer printed out these tickets was kind of messed up, and they are hard to read. I don’t know how much effort USCIS puts into reading these things.

So what do you think? Do I have enough evidence? Is there something in particular that I should include or exclude? Should I write something up explaining all of this evidence?

You have enough for the petition. I sent ONE photo, not time stamped (time stamps are meaningless, for exactly the reason you stated, you "forgot to set" it. You could have set it for yesterday, tomorrow or last week. That is why time stamps mean nothing, YOU set them) Anyway I sent one photo in a non-identifiable place (doesn't matter where you meet) passport stamps and boarding passes, that is all. You can see the exact photo I sent on my profile. We had no RFEs.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I am wondering if I have sufficient evidence of having met my fiancée in the past two years for our I-129F. Here is what I have:

Photographs. The last time I visited my fiancée I Lima, where she lives, I forgot to set the camera so that the date would be printed on the picture. I don’t know if that hurts me given that any idiot could submit a photo with an incorrect date on it anyway. We do have a bunch of photos of us together, though, including several in which the two of us are standing in front of a Christmas tree. I think that might help given that my passport will show that the only time I was in Peru in December was in 2007 and 2008.

Passport stamps. I don’t know if this helps, because it doesn’t really prove that I met her, but I can show that I have gone down to Peru a whole bunch of times, that I got a whole bunch of “extension of stay” stamps in Lima, where she lives, and that my trips to Peru are generally in agreement with what I said in my statement answering Question 18 of the 129-F

Hotel receipts. Again, this really only shows that I was in Lima, not that I was with her, but I managed to get receipts for all of the times that I paid a hotel down there. Thank God I always stay at the same hotel and they have a record of all of my payments.

Boarding pass stub. I kept the stub of the boarding pass I used to get on a plane on January 1, 2009 in Lima. I forgot to keep the stub from my flight down there. Again, doesn’t really prove that we met, but does prove that I, along with 8 million other people, was in her city.

Bus tickets. This, to me, is the clearest piece of irrefutable proof that we have met. I have copies of two bus tickets from Lima to another city which include our names and ID numbers. The tickets show that in December 2008 the two of us bought bus tickets in sequential order one minute apart from one another, and that we sat next to each other on the ride. I think this would have been absolutely impossible had we never actually met one another. The downside? The way that the printer printed out these tickets was kind of messed up, and they are hard to read. I don’t know how much effort USCIS puts into reading these things.

So what do you think? Do I have enough evidence? Is there something in particular that I should include or exclude? Should I write something up explaining all of this evidence?

although it seems you have enough evidence another thing to show is if you guys have been writing letters, greeting cards or perhaps email too.

OK, send what you want. For the PETITION you only need show that you met one time in the last two years. I say, keep the rest for the interview. Emails, cards, letters, etc do not prove you met, in fact they prove you are communicating without meeting.

[Anh map 2,098]

Gary's got it right. Save the secondary evidence for the interview.

[ThaitoUSA 15]

Several VJer's have encouraged sending evidence that is beyond just having met in the past two years, such as copies of greeting cards, emails, etc. Their rationale is that all that information shall be forwarded to the Consulate and can then be examined by the CO during the interview. Whereas, anything submitted at the interview can be refused; that is, the CO can say "I am not going to take that." They can't say that if it is already with the petition.

A Thai poster recently said that his fiancée submitted the emails and other correspondence to the pre-screener, yet when the CO asked for this, the pre-screener continually said "No have. No have." Although it was right there in her hands.

I encourage you to submit some sample emails along with copies of phones bills, etc. from within the past two years of filling. You don't need to make it 300 pages of evidence, but I ended up submitting about 70 pages, including the forms. We have gathered even more evidence from the time we filed until now for the interview.

[SuperDuper! 230]

I agree to send in a little extra with the initial 129F, so that it will be in the packet. How long does it take to print out a few emails, copy a couple greeting cards, throw in a phone call log. No big deal, and its all in their for the embassy interview day

Several VJer's have encouraged sending evidence that is beyond just having met in the past two years, such as copies of greeting cards, emails, etc. Their rationale is that all that information shall be forwarded to the Consulate and can then be examined by the CO during the interview. Whereas, anything submitted at the interview can be refused; that is, the CO can say "I am not going to take that." They can't say that if it is already with the petition.

A Thai poster recently said that his fiancée submitted the emails and other correspondence to the pre-screener, yet when the CO asked for this, the pre-screener continually said "No have. No have." Although it was right there in her hands.

I encourage you to submit some sample emails along with copies of phones bills, etc. from within the past two years of filling. You don't need to make it 300 pages of evidence, but I ended up submitting about 70 pages, including the forms. We have gathered even more evidence from the time we filed until now for the interview.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Several VJer's have encouraged sending evidence that is beyond just having met in the past two years, such as copies of greeting cards, emails, etc. Their rationale is that all that information shall be forwarded to the Consulate and can then be examined by the CO during the interview. Whereas, anything submitted at the interview can be refused; that is, the CO can say "I am not going to take that." They can't say that if it is already with the petition.

A Thai poster recently said that his fiancée submitted the emails and other correspondence to the pre-screener, yet when the CO asked for this, the pre-screener continually said "No have. No have." Although it was right there in her hands.

I encourage you to submit some sample emails along with copies of phones bills, etc. from within the past two years of filling. You don't need to make it 300 pages of evidence, but I ended up submitting about 70 pages, including the forms. We have gathered even more evidence from the time we filed until now for the interview.

Like I said, send what you want.

I hear the horror stories from some countries and had none of that with Kiev. They didn't even look at what I brought to the interview and I brought tons, (well, many pounds anyway) so it varies by consulate. Whatever makes you comfortable. No it is not a big deal to send more.

[David Allen 3]

Something for you to keep in mind here - what passes for proof of having met in the past two years for the initial part to get your NOA2, and what you'll eventually face with the embassy visit for proof of ongoing relationship are going to be vastly different. We initially sent 5 photos, a few emaiils and my passport stamps as proof we met in the past 2 years to get through the initial part. For the embassy interview, we submitted some 40-50 photos, plus my passport stamps plus receipts from western union from times I have sent her some money, with a small sample of emails, and they came back asking for more proof of our relationship. The moral of the story here is - even though you might think you have enough evidence - don't hold back on anything you have. Bus tickets, emails, phone records, passport stamps, pictures whether or not they're date stamped, homemade porno videos, letters from friends who have have been out with you and your fiancee, and don't forget so send in the kitchen sink. (ok - so I'm kidding about the homemade porno) When it gets to the embassy part - it really is in your best interest to send in everything you can think of that links you with your fiancee. The time and headache you save, could be your own.

-David

I am wondering if I have sufficient evidence of having met my fiancée in the past two years for our I-129F. Here is what I have:

Photographs. The last time I visited my fiancée I Lima, where she lives, I forgot to set the camera so that the date would be printed on the picture. I don’t know if that hurts me given that any idiot could submit a photo with an incorrect date on it anyway. We do have a bunch of photos of us together, though, including several in which the two of us are standing in front of a Christmas tree. I think that might help given that my passport will show that the only time I was in Peru in December was in 2007 and 2008.

Passport stamps. I don’t know if this helps, because it doesn’t really prove that I met her, but I can show that I have gone down to Peru a whole bunch of times, that I got a whole bunch of “extension of stay” stamps in Lima, where she lives, and that my trips to Peru are generally in agreement with what I said in my statement answering Question 18 of the 129-F

Hotel receipts. Again, this really only shows that I was in Lima, not that I was with her, but I managed to get receipts for all of the times that I paid a hotel down there. Thank God I always stay at the same hotel and they have a record of all of my payments.

Boarding pass stub. I kept the stub of the boarding pass I used to get on a plane on January 1, 2009 in Lima. I forgot to keep the stub from my flight down there. Again, doesn’t really prove that we met, but does prove that I, along with 8 million other people, was in her city.

Bus tickets. This, to me, is the clearest piece of irrefutable proof that we have met. I have copies of two bus tickets from Lima to another city which include our names and ID numbers. The tickets show that in December 2008 the two of us bought bus tickets in sequential order one minute apart from one another, and that we sat next to each other on the ride. I think this would have been absolutely impossible had we never actually met one another. The downside? The way that the printer printed out these tickets was kind of messed up, and they are hard to read. I don’t know how much effort USCIS puts into reading these things.

So what do you think? Do I have enough evidence? Is there something in particular that I should include or exclude? Should I write something up explaining all of this evidence?

[John and Camie 39]

Maybe see if she's saved her receipts and banking transactions. My fiance sent me signed copies of his ticket stubs and shopping/banking receipts. I highlighted the dates/locations/times and included them in the petition with signed/highlighted copies of mine. Together, our copies put us in the same places simultaneously.

Hope this helps!