WANT TO MARRY GIRL ALREADY MARRIED ON K-3 VISA

[onuche 0]

Couldnt agree with filamer more!!!!!!!, two months and he is suddenly a no good husband? give me a break, she is MARRIED for heavens sakes. You better leave another mans wife alone for your own good. I mean u even have the nerve to state "he hasnt started abusing her yet", what the hell!!!!! so you anticipating that? she is trying to use you and the earlier you open your eyes and see her for what she is the better for you.

Whats makes you think she wont leave you in three or four yrs cos, you work too much or dont make "enough" money. If there is one thing i have learnt is that no matter what someone does if you looking for a fault you would always find it.

Lets just assume she is right and her husband is a drunk (which i dont agree with either) but he isnt beating her, making her starve, she has a roof over her head, yes its his mothers house, and according to you doesnt abuse her).

YOU BETTER LEAVE ANOTHER MANS WIFE ALONE FOR YOUR OWN GOOD ELSE....... (as the saying goes "a word is enough for the wise").

[doodlebugg 10]

i think she did marry the this man, and if she's unhappy she needs to talk to her husband and let him know this and they need to try and work the matrimony out, get counseling, try something. they both sound too immature. A marriage isn't something that you toss away like rubbish. If he is abusive than I think that is different situation and i agree that divorce should be an option to her for the reason of him being abusive, not because she is in adultery which is a sin.

Second Im sorry, but I gotta say i think you are being in the way, and you should not have contact with her. If you respect her i cant say love because you should not be in love with another man's wife. so if you are respect her you should let them work through this without you, if it ends in divorse, which is sad then you would have the right to pursue her for matrimony, but she would need to go back to phillipine most likely first, and then like is said here you would need to petition her.

peace

[sj5 4]

I wish you well, man, but speak to some others who have dealt with pinays. In general, they re-define the meaning of the term "opportunist". And, for those of you who are offended by that statement, get a life. You either do not know the truth, or you are avoiding it.

As the old saying goes, "be careful what you ask for, you may get it."

You may hate me for what I say today, but one day, you will see it. Stay away from that area. It is bad news.

It is define some Filipinas as opportunist, and I don't argue about this with you, but I can justify it for you. These foreigners who prefer Filipinas heard about us that we are domesticated,submissive, and etc. Some guys are fortunate to find a good Filipinas but others aren't as unfortunate Filipinas. In general, isn't just Filipinas are opportunist.

I probably end up as opportunist too if my husband leave me.

[DanielParul 50]

Couldnt agree with filamer more!!!!!!!, two months and he is suddenly a no good husband? give me a break, she is MARRIED for heavens sakes. You better leave another mans wife alone for your own good. I mean u even have the nerve to state "he hasnt started abusing her yet", what the hell!!!!! so you anticipating that? she is trying to use you and the earlier you open your eyes and see her for what she is the better for you.

Whats makes you think she wont leave you in three or four yrs cos, you work too much or dont make "enough" money. If there is one thing i have learnt is that no matter what someone does if you looking for a fault you would always find it.

Lets just assume she is right and her husband is a drunk (which i dont agree with either) but he isnt beating her, making her starve, she has a roof over her head, yes its his mothers house, and according to you doesnt abuse her).

YOU BETTER LEAVE ANOTHER MANS WIFE ALONE FOR YOUR OWN GOOD ELSE....... (as the saying goes "a word is enough for the wise").

[ding 1]

Yeah, she can hang tough until she gets her conditional Green card and then bail, but I'd turn and run. She may be usuing you for a landing pad etc. He may be a bad hubby but she married him and it now only took 2 months to find out? C'mon. Do hours of research online and you will find much of it is valid commentary and you can avoid heartache and a lighter wallet. That said, people are different. Lives are redeemable, and no situation is like all others. Best of luck, but keep your wits.

[BrianandMerne 3]

Hi. I will be straightforward to you.

HER: Married is a RED FLAG FLYING OVER MOSCOW AND CAN BE SEEN ALL OVER THE WORLD. So stop.

YOU: I presume free and single. Ergo? Find someone the same. Why would you complicate your life? How sure are you that she won’t leave you at the smallest sign of trouble when you two eventually marry? Do you really KNOW her? Her heart? Her spirit? Her character?

Now, for WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND:

1. If you decide to pursue you should be ready for MONTROUS consequences (spiritual or otherwise). Whatever is your faith or whether or not you

do, life is a circle of river flowing around. What goes around comes around.

2. If you decide to pursue here are the legal steps that you should do:

(and they are NOT easy)

a. She must sever her marriage legally and this can only be done in the Philippines since she is not a US citizen there yet (given she just

recently arrived)

b. There is no divorce here in the Philippines, only ANNULMENT. The time and money it costs is horrendously gross.

c. The ANNULMENT process, like the Divorce, OUGHT TO HAVE a response from the partner. If he is willing good, if not, you are in for more

trouble and HEARTBREAK. After all the money invested by his husband for her just to be able to get her there is simply an investment not

too easy to be chalked up by this guy as bad debt. I am pretty sure he’s going to make it difficult at the very least, if and when he

considers the idea of letting her go.

d. Did she have a job here in the Philippines BEFORE she was taken to be there with her husband in the United States? Your response

here (yes or no) will have another set of response from me.

3. If you decide to pursue, what assurance do you have that this woman will continue to be strong for both of you as you going through the process

of getting her to become your wife legally? You see, to me what she is doing now is so loud I can not hear what she is saying… if you get my drift.

I am from the Philippines by the way. Get back to me for any questions.

[luvbugs4ever 0]

Hi. I will be straightforward to you.

HER: Married is a RED FLAG FLYING OVER MOSCOW AND CAN BE SEEN ALL OVER THE WORLD. So stop.

YOU: I presume free and single. Ergo? Find someone the same. Why would you complicate your life? How sure are you that she won’t leave you at the smallest sign of trouble when you two eventually marry? Do you really KNOW her? Her heart? Her spirit? Her character?

Now, for WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND:

1. If you decide to pursue you should be ready for MONTROUS consequences (spiritual or otherwise). Whatever is your faith or whether or not you

do, life is a circle of river flowing around. What goes around comes around.

2. If you decide to pursue here are the legal steps that you should do:

(and they are NOT easy)

a. She must sever her marriage legally and this can only be done in the Philippines since she is not a US citizen there yet (given she just

recently arrived)

b. There is no divorce here in the Philippines, only ANNULMENT. The time and money it costs is horrendously gross.

c. The ANNULMENT process, like the Divorce, OUGHT TO HAVE a response from the partner. If he is willing good, if not, you are in for more

trouble and HEARTBREAK. After all the money invested by his husband for her just to be able to get her there is simply an investment not

too easy to be chalked up by this guy as bad debt. I am pretty sure he’s going to make it difficult at the very least, if and when he

considers the idea of letting her go.

d. Did she have a job here in the Philippines BEFORE she was taken to be there with her husband in the United States? Your response

here (yes or no) will have another set of response from me.

3. If you decide to pursue, what assurance do you have that this woman will continue to be strong for both of you as you going through the process

of getting her to become your wife legally? You see, to me what she is doing now is so loud I can not hear what she is saying… if you get my drift.

I am from the Philippines by the way. Get back to me for any questions.

READ READ READ THE ABOVE RESPONSE! Man don't mess up.... but if you are really REALLY that so much in love with each other, I think it is best for her to be honest to her RECENT husband (who by the way spend money for her visa to come) that she is not in love with him. As in, let him know ASAP! Give a little respect to the man! After that she can pack up and go back to our country (I'm from 'pinas too to let u know) so you two can start your love affair. Don't cheat naman!!!!

[Carlos and Jocel 2]

I met a girl through a family I know--and we fell in love and quick (right or wrong it happened). She married in Philippines not quite 2 years ago and came here 2 months ago. Since she was married she felt she made a mistake the guy wasn't what she thought he was. After he finally petitioned her on what I believe is the K-3 Visa and she came 2 months ago she has been miserable. He is controlling, lazy drunk, who does have a decent job--but still lives at home with his mother (where she now lives too). She is hoping I can wait until her 2 years here is up and she get her 'condition' of marriage removed.

I imagine instead of waiting for this girl for two years or more while that process takes place there must be an easier way.

Can she leave him now (separation of six months is required before the state will grant divorce here) and live with her sister and eventually me? How long would she be allowed to stay in country?

Is it possible that once her divorce is final that I could marry her quickly after that and petition somehow for her to stay here without her having to go back to the Philippines?

Note: The guy isn't abusive--yet, and it really isn't an 'extreme' hardship if she went back. I actually also wonder if she left him now, was able to stay until the divorce was final and voluntarily went back to the Philippines--How long would she have to stay there before she could come back if I petetion her?

Thanks for any advice or personal experience with this type of issue anyone can share.

I USUALLY DON'T GET ON ANYONE BUSINESS ABOUT HOW THEY GET THEIR GREEN CARDS OR HOW THEY GET TO THE USA BUT HOLD ON AND SLOW YOUR ROLE MAN. GIVE THIS 2 A CHANCE TO GET TO KNOW MORE EACH OTHER BEFORE YOUR JUMP IN. HAVE THEM FIX THEIR ISSUE AMONG THEMSELVES. IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR ABOUT TO COMMIT SOMETHING YOUR NOT READY FOR YOURSELF. ONE SHE IS MARRIED TO HIM... DON'T FEED THE CHICKEN THAT IS NOT YOURS... END OF STORY!!!

[Sailor Moon 2]

I met a girl through a family I know--and we fell in love and quick (right or wrong it happened). She married in Philippines not quite 2 years ago and came here 2 months ago. Since she was married she felt she made a mistake the guy wasn't what she thought he was. After he finally petitioned her on what I believe is the K-3 Visa and she came 2 months ago she has been miserable. He is controlling, lazy drunk, who does have a decent job--but still lives at home with his mother (where she now lives too). She is hoping I can wait until her 2 years here is up and she get her 'condition' of marriage removed.

I imagine instead of waiting for this girl for two years or more while that process takes place there must be an easier way.

Can she leave him now (separation of six months is required before the state will grant divorce here) and live with her sister and eventually me? How long would she be allowed to stay in country?

Is it possible that once her divorce is final that I could marry her quickly after that and petition somehow for her to stay here without her having to go back to the Philippines?

Note: The guy isn't abusive--yet, and it really isn't an 'extreme' hardship if she went back. I actually also wonder if she left him now, was able to stay until the divorce was final and voluntarily went back to the Philippines--How long would she have to stay there before she could come back if I petetion her?

Thanks for any advice or personal experience with this type of issue anyone can share.

i feel discousted about all this ,,in one hand she is hopping to stay with her husband for the 2 years till she gets her chance ,big WRONG (she does not want him anymore and thinking to leave him then don't use him for GC and just pack up and go hom), u said u both in love ,what kind of love do u have that allow you to share her with another man and same goes with her ,NITE FOR HIM ,DAY FOR YOU ,,remember person who cheat now will cheat again,,she is cheating on her husabnd by coming to u hehind his back and by thinking to stay with him to get her GC..

good luck

[WROCLAW 0]

I met a girl through a family I know--and we fell in love and quick (right or wrong it happened). She married in Philippines not quite 2 years ago and came here 2 months ago. Since she was married she felt she made a mistake the guy wasn't what she thought he was. After he finally petitioned her on what I believe is the K-3 Visa and she came 2 months ago she has been miserable. He is controlling, lazy drunk, who does have a decent job--but still lives at home with his mother (where she now lives too). She is hoping I can wait until her 2 years here is up and she get her 'condition' of marriage removed.

I imagine instead of waiting for this girl for two years or more while that process takes place there must be an easier way.

Can she leave him now (separation of six months is required before the state will grant divorce here) and live with her sister and eventually me? How long would she be allowed to stay in country?

Is it possible that once her divorce is final that I could marry her quickly after that and petition somehow for her to stay here without her having to go back to the Philippines?

Note: The guy isn't abusive--yet, and it really isn't an 'extreme' hardship if she went back. I actually also wonder if she left him now, was able to stay until the divorce was final and voluntarily went back to the Philippines--How long would she have to stay there before she could come back if I petetion her?

Thanks for any advice or personal experience with this type of issue anyone can share.

Hey buddy, I bet your happy as hell you brought this subject up. LOL! Well, "Panodora's Box" is now open............GOOD LUCK! I'M sure you'll have a meaningful relationship with the women you posted about.

[john_and_marlene 162]

a. She must sever her marriage legally and this can only be done in the Philippines since she is not a US citizen there yet (given she just

recently arrived)

b. There is no divorce here in the Philippines, only ANNULMENT. The time and money it costs is horrendously gross.

a. is false. You do not have to be a US Citizen to divorce in the U.S.

b. is partially false. If a non-filipino spouse files for, and is granted, a divorce from the Filipino spouse, the Philippines will recognize the foreign divorce and the Filipino can regain the capacity to marry without an anullment.

[dluke77 9]

WOW!!! Yeah your right opened up Pandora's box was opened I guess

Ok anyway, just to make a couple things clear. Nothing has happened sexually between me and this girl--an affair of the heart only I guess is what you call it--but not even a kiss. Secondly, her family (not her husband) paid for most all the fees for her to come over here because her husband didn't know of the cost and effort of bringing her over here--he decided he didn't want to spend the money on bringing her over her. I know this out of his own brothers mouth.

Someone who was wondering if she had a job in the Philippines -- she did have a decent job there and does have a degree.

Understand what everyone means about leaving this girl alone and not getting involved with a married woman--I know that already and that is exactly why I have not seen her since we figured out we had feelings between us. I posted the question to find out "what" and "if" scenarios--speaking of the future if she in fact leaves her husband and moves in with her family here... There is no way I would let her jump from one bed to the other.

Anyway, thank you all your responses made for some interesting reading.

[morocco4ever 63]

Ok anyway, just to make a couple things clear. Nothing has happened sexually between me and this girl--an affair of the heart only I guess is what you call it--but not even a kiss.

If my husband had an "affair of the heart", I would be just a devastated as if they had sexual relations. I am glad you are staying away now. If it is meant to be she will come to you after her divorce. Then it would be the appropriate time to request immigration assistance.

[justashooter 430]

WOW!!! Yeah your right opened up Pandora's box was opened I guess

Ok anyway, just to make a couple things clear. Nothing has happened sexually between me and this girl--an affair of the heart only I guess is what you call it--but not even a kiss. Secondly, her family (not her husband) paid for most all the fees for her to come over here because her husband didn't know of the cost and effort of bringing her over here--he decided he didn't want to spend the money on bringing her over her. I know this out of his own brothers mouth.

Someone who was wondering if she had a job in the Philippines -- she did have a decent job there and does have a degree.

Understand what everyone means about leaving this girl alone and not getting involved with a married woman--I know that already and that is exactly why I have not seen her since we figured out we had feelings between us. I posted the question to find out "what" and "if" scenarios--speaking of the future if she in fact leaves her husband and moves in with her family here... There is no way I would let her jump from one bed to the other.

Anyway, thank you all your responses made for some interesting reading.

lots of people on this board are full of emotion about their own process, and are understandably harsh with people who would interfere with another's. some people on this board have been dumped by immigrants and are nursing a grudge. many others are afraid it will happen to them. many of them are right.

time is your friend, usually. beds should get cold between relationships, as a cold bed brings clarity of mind and purpose. the girl in question is in a turbulent phase of her life. people in this state are best not involved with, as you never know what direction they will be facing when they stop spinning.

[WROCLAW 0]

WOW!!! Yeah your right opened up Pandora's box was opened I guess

Ok anyway, just to make a couple things clear. Nothing has happened sexually between me and this girl--an affair of the heart only I guess is what you call it--but not even a kiss. Secondly, her family (not her husband) paid for most all the fees for her to come over here because her husband didn't know of the cost and effort of bringing her over here--he decided he didn't want to spend the money on bringing her over her. I know this out of his own brothers mouth.

Someone who was wondering if she had a job in the Philippines -- she did have a decent job there and does have a degree.

Understand what everyone means about leaving this girl alone and not getting involved with a married woman--I know that already and that is exactly why I have not seen her since we figured out we had feelings between us. I posted the question to find out "what" and "if" scenarios--speaking of the future if she in fact leaves her husband and moves in with her family here... There is no way I would let her jump from one bed to the other.

Anyway, thank you all your responses made for some interesting reading.

I think alot of the people here appriciate your situation, and it seems to me that you have every right to explore your options. It makes sense. I was just kidding about "Pandora's Box". Look, if somebody would have told me back in 2003, or before then, "someday you will be married to a women you met on the internet - who just happens to live 4,000 miles away ", I would have said, "Yea, right!". Well, it happened Good Luck, I hope it works out the way YOU want it to. EVERYBODY has the right to be happy. Best Of Luck. P.S. This March 20th. is our 5 year anniversary of my wife and I meeting on the net. And this March 31st. is our 3 year wedding anniversary. WOOT-WOOT!