Questions about I684 and I134

[al-Hubb jameel 0]

Hello. I've filed an I129F for my fiance. I'm going to visit him next month, so I thought I would take some paperwork over with me to save time in the future, even though we have not yet recieved our NOA2. I'm also thinking ahead to our AOS and the I684 since that will need to be done so quickly apon his arrival in USA. I have several questions that I'm hoping to find answers to. Thanks in advance!

1.) His interview will probably not be for another 5-6 months if not more Is it too soon to sign the I134 now? Is it also too soon get the letter from my job and my bank? Does anyone know the time frame of what is considered valid and current? Also, just to verify-I do not send the I134 anywhere-he takes it with him to his interview?

2.) According to the directions on I134 I only need to submit a letter from my employer and a letter from my bank. There is no need for taxes? It asks about life insurance, stocks, ect. If I check yes, do I need to show proof of that? And is any of that necessary if my income meets the requirement?

2.) I am divorced from a marriage that was entered in good faith. He is now a US Citizen (He was already in USA when we married in 2000 and we did the AOS). I was a joint sponsor for him at that time. Am I still considered financially responsible for him in terms of support petition?

3.) I also am a joint sponsor for a friend of mine who filed last year because her husband did not meet the income requirements. I have a copy of the I-864 and letter D is checked- I am the only joint sponsor. I have asked her to get a certified letter from her attorney stating that I am only the joint sponsor, and not the full sponsor, but is that really necessary? I don't want her to have to spend the money if it's not.

4.) Worst case scenario- I count 4 people I'm considered responsible for-myself, my fiance, my ex husband, and my friend. (one big happy family). My income is still greater than the 2009 125% guidelines for a family of 4. However, I don't own any property. Is this a problem?

5.) On I134, Question 9: That I have previously submitted affidavit(s) of support for the following person(s). If none, state none.

Because I was joint sponsor for my friend and my ex husband would I put their names here? With them it was I-684 not I134.

6.) On I134 Question 10: That I have submitted a visa petition(s) to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on behalf of the following person(s). If none, state none.

In that space would I list my ex-husband? I'm confused by the wording "visa petition". I had nothing to do with my ex husband's visa to come to USA, I was however involved with his AOS for his green card.

Thanks again, hopefully you guys will save me an info-pass trip!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Hello. I've filed an I129F for my fiance. I'm going to visit him next month, so I thought I would take some paperwork over with me to save time in the future, even though we have not yet recieved our NOA2. I'm also thinking ahead to our AOS and the I684 since that will need to be done so quickly apon his arrival in USA. I have several questions that I'm hoping to find answers to. Thanks in advance!

1.) His interview will probably not be for another 5-6 months if not more Is it too soon to sign the I134 now? Is it also too soon get the letter from my job and my bank? Does anyone know the time frame of what is considered valid and current? Also, just to verify-I do not send the I134 anywhere-he takes it with him to his interview?

2.) According to the directions on I134 I only need to submit a letter from my employer and a letter from my bank. There is no need for taxes? It asks about life insurance, stocks, ect. If I check yes, do I need to show proof of that? And is any of that necessary if my income meets the requirement?

2.) I am divorced from a marriage that was entered in good faith. He is now a US Citizen (He was already in USA when we married in 2000 and we did the AOS). I was a joint sponsor for him at that time. Am I still considered financially responsible for him in terms of support petition?

3.) I also am a joint sponsor for a friend of mine who filed last year because her husband did not meet the income requirements. I have a copy of the I-864 and letter D is checked- I am the only joint sponsor. I have asked her to get a certified letter from her attorney stating that I am only the joint sponsor, and not the full sponsor, but is that really necessary? I don't want her to have to spend the money if it's not.

4.) Worst case scenario- I count 4 people I'm considered responsible for-myself, my fiance, my ex husband, and my friend. (one big happy family). My income is still greater than the 2009 125% guidelines for a family of 4. However, I don't own any property. Is this a problem?

5.) On I134, Question 9: That I have previously submitted affidavit(s) of support for the following person(s). If none, state none.

Because I was joint sponsor for my friend and my ex husband would I put their names here? With them it was I-684 not I134.

6.) On I134 Question 10: That I have submitted a visa petition(s) to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on behalf of the following person(s). If none, state none.

In that space would I list my ex-husband? I'm confused by the wording "visa petition". I had nothing to do with my ex husband's visa to come to USA, I was however involved with his AOS for his green card.

Thanks again, hopefully you guys will save me an info-pass trip!

1. Persoanlly I waited until the week before the interview. In the real world, if you have a steady job situation and do not expect any changes, go for it. Send some recent check stubs closer to the interview date

2. If your income is above the guidelines, leave all the asset data blank. You don't need it. If you use it, then yes you need to submit proof. You can't just say "I own 3000 shares of GM stock worth $1.34" Who would believe you are that dumb? Especially when you can buy that stock just by you tax witholding!

3. No, you are a joint sponsor (sometimes called co-sponsor but I want to be correct as I am being graded) and this person will count in your family size for your case.

4. Nope, you win. And not to get into something not my business...why the ex-husband? He is a dependent? But if you have enough income for four, no problem.

5. Yes, list the previous I 864s, your friend and your ex-husband.

6. Ahhh, the answer for the ex-husband. Belay my last. You would list your current fiance, you did not petition your ex-husband and the question is specifically for petition. Answer: "(fiance's name) with this application"

7. Uh...no 7.

Good luck

[pushbrk 12,877]

Hello. I've filed an I129F for my fiance. I'm going to visit him next month, so I thought I would take some paperwork over with me to save time in the future, even though we have not yet recieved our NOA2. I'm also thinking ahead to our AOS and the I684 since that will need to be done so quickly apon his arrival in USA. I have several questions that I'm hoping to find answers to. Thanks in advance!

1.) His interview will probably not be for another 5-6 months if not more Is it too soon to sign the I134 now? Is it also too soon get the letter from my job and my bank? Does anyone know the time frame of what is considered valid and current? Also, just to verify-I do not send the I134 anywhere-he takes it with him to his interview?

2.) According to the directions on I134 I only need to submit a letter from my employer and a letter from my bank. There is no need for taxes? It asks about life insurance, stocks, ect. If I check yes, do I need to show proof of that? And is any of that necessary if my income meets the requirement?

2.) I am divorced from a marriage that was entered in good faith. He is now a US Citizen (He was already in USA when we married in 2000 and we did the AOS). I was a joint sponsor for him at that time. Am I still considered financially responsible for him in terms of support petition?

3.) I also am a joint sponsor for a friend of mine who filed last year because her husband did not meet the income requirements. I have a copy of the I-864 and letter D is checked- I am the only joint sponsor. I have asked her to get a certified letter from her attorney stating that I am only the joint sponsor, and not the full sponsor, but is that really necessary? I don't want her to have to spend the money if it's not.

4.) Worst case scenario- I count 4 people I'm considered responsible for-myself, my fiance, my ex husband, and my friend. (one big happy family). My income is still greater than the 2009 125% guidelines for a family of 4. However, I don't own any property. Is this a problem?

5.) On I134, Question 9: That I have previously submitted affidavit(s) of support for the following person(s). If none, state none.

Because I was joint sponsor for my friend and my ex husband would I put their names here? With them it was I-684 not I134.

6.) On I134 Question 10: That I have submitted a visa petition(s) to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on behalf of the following person(s). If none, state none.

In that space would I list my ex-husband? I'm confused by the wording "visa petition". I had nothing to do with my ex husband's visa to come to USA, I was however involved with his AOS for his green card.

Thanks again, hopefully you guys will save me an info-pass trip!

3. No, you are a joint sponsor (sometimes called co-sponsor but I want to be correct as I am being graded) and this person will count in your family size for your case.

Good luck

Yes the person will count in the family size regardless of whether you were the primary or joint sponsor. "Joint sponsor" is the correct term when an I-864 is used. "Co-sponsor" is a term used as a tool to describe any sponsor in addition to the petitioner, when an I-134 is used.

[al-Hubb jameel 0]

I'm so impressed!! Thank you very much for the speedy and fun reply! Just to clarify, the ex husband is NOT a dependent (nor was he ever) and we no longer share the same household. My friend is also not in my household, I live alone!! That would be something for day time TV if we did all live together with the new one on the way. The only reason I asked about the ex was because in 2000 I was a co-sponsor for him. Since he's a US citizen now and it's been 9 years, I don't think that he'd still count. But I want to have all my ducks in a row, just in case! In any rate, we'll be fine if they do decide to count him with my income. It just would kinda suck if they did- for nothing more than sentimental reasons..if that makes any sense. New life starting, and everything.

[al-Hubb jameel 0]

I mean joint sponser for him- not co. Thanks for the clarification.

[Anh map 2,098]

You do not need to count your ex if he is now a USC.

Quoted from the I-864: Your obligation to support the immigrant(s) you are sponsoring in this affidavit of support will continue until the sponsored immigrant becomes a U.S. citizen, or can be credited with 40 qualifying quarters of work in the UnitedStates.

You would include your friend in your household calculations as your obligation there still exisits.