High Fraud consulates or embassy or country

[childress_london 3]

Well I think it was a good question and the answers here are all based on conjecture of course. Mentioning someone's country is not an insult against that person personally, as it seems some are taking it. In my husband's case, he tried for a student visa to the U.S. and was told no way by the visa officer at the embassy (this was before we married and filed a petition). She told him he came from a country that was causing the U.S. too much trouble and there was no way she was going to give him a visa. So if you think that they don't have prejudice against certain countries while looking at your petition, think again.

[MaxOnline 0]

Gimme a freakin' break!

Would Thailand be considered high fraud as well? I just presumed it is, being similar to Vietnam, Philippines, etc.

Asia - they would be looking for red flags...

the scenario wd change pretty soon . I agree to Pushbrk. Soon americans wd immegrate to countries like India as because cheap goog lifestyle with lesser hassle. Then the game will be other way around. The 3rd world concept is about to change and 3rd worlds will no more be 3rd worlds. The hierarchy is changing.

And Bobby_Umit pls stop confusing people by issuing names of countries which are/are not considered fraud. You & me are no USCIS ...so we are in no charge of issuing country names and posting bad reputation in their names. Pls there has been no official list that has been issued. So pls i think VJ shd refrain from confusing people. All people with correct intentions and honesty and bonafide relation & marriage will of course pass. Thanks

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

romania is not considered low risk. i know 2 cute little romanian waitresses here in my little town in south central PA that arrived K1, ditched their intended without marriage, stayed illegal, popped out anchors, and are looking for someone to legitimise their overstay (impossible). if you're interested i can save you the bux and introduce them. they're both attractive ...

seriously, if you two write a bunch of e-mails and take a 1 week vacation together neither of you have any idea of what you are getting.

I seriously hope this wasn't a joke because it's a bad one. Besides...like people say...from any bush a rat can come out of it (meaning that fraud can happen anywhere).

Thanks for all the really good info that was put in this thread.

PEACE my friends........

A friend of mine (a Romanian) works at the US embassy in Bucharest. From what I have heard there is none of the nightmares people with fiancees from VietNam, Phillipines, etc. go through. I can also say that Kiev (former Soviet Union) is very easy to deal with and have heard the same from Moscow. So I am not sure how "high risk" they are considered, maybe less now than 10 years ago. At any rate, I would take my chances with a foreign woman any day. I consider it a lot less likely to get rip-off'ed than by the woman next door or at the local church for that matter.

[scandal 951]

As for AP people have been mentioning - my fiance and I waited 51 or 52 days (the NVC thread people still can't decide which one it is ) to get out. Why? Nobody knows. No criminal records, no records at all, for that matter, pretty uncommon names, no previous marriages, etc. Not even the country I come from is considered high fraud, as pretty much no cases get through the Embassy on a monthly basis (maybe 1-2, if that many). Pretty much nobody ever finds out about reasons of their AP.

Yup. Like Badgerella and Kim, I'm another AP@NVC (still there....day 47). I also have never been given a reason for the extra attention lavished on our case. I did some stats a few weeks ago - they're posted on the NVC thread if you're interested. Anyway, upshot is that NVC does not appear to be picking on particular countries to hold back files for AP. The distribution of AP cases by country is roughly what you'd expect for the total distribution of VJ cases at large. Of course the sample space I used is only VJ K1/K3 cases where members filled in their timelines with NVC Received/NVC Left data. So that is not necessarily scientifically accurate. BTW - the AP distribution by CSC/VSC also mirrors the general population (about 60/40 split).

All this to say- NVC doesn't seem to predispose certain countries - High risk, MENA, etc. - for AP that a naive guess might think it would. You're as likely to get AP at NVC from Canada as from Cameroon.

However, AP @ consulate almost certainly does single out the high-risk and Mideast countries that common knowledge (and frankly, common sense) tell us fall under extra scrutiny.

[Ban Hammer 13,705]

i heard kim was handing out spanks in this thread

[NatPatBen 3]

It's just a matter of time till some of those erstwhile 3rd world countries start considering American visa applicants to their territories as "high risk" for fraud.

You never know. I was very surprised during one of my trips to Jamaica... the lady at immigration wanted to see proof that I had a return flight. I wondered if Jamaica really has problems with Americans illegally immigrating there.

[V-G-1 1]

Does anybody know anything about Lebanon? My fiance is a Christian (as is half the country). Do you think the adjudicator knows that fact? Would it help? (and by no means am I implying anything about any other religions...)

[TBoneTX 46,368]

All people with correct intentions and honesty and bonafide relation & marriage will of course pass.

This cannot be said with ANY truth, accuracy, or authority.

An immigration attorney & ex-consul answered my "what is a high-fraud country" question with "any poor country."

Ecuador is not known as a high-fraud country, but the Section Chief of the Immigrant Visa Unit was pulled from his cushy job with the OAS in Washington and assigned to yet another consular post. His specialty is anti-human-trafficking (he has lectured on this all over the world). Therefore, any interviewees in Guayaquil should beware this focus. I should add here, in case anyone has missed it elsewhere, that the U.S. citizen must attend the first interview (K-1, K-3, CR-1) or the visa will be delayed interminably or outright refused. There are no exceptions, even if you (the USC) are on your deathbed. And, should you ask the consulate if you need to attend, the consulate will not answer your question or will lie to you.

[Badgerella 5]

All people with correct intentions and honesty and bonafide relation & marriage will of course pass.

This cannot be said with ANY truth, accuracy, or authority.

I'll have to second this. A bona fide relationship/marriage is really a plus, but the whole thing is still in the eyes of a CO. And they can see whatever pleases them. Or whatever they wish to see.

[Badgerella 5]

All people with correct intentions and honesty and bonafide relation & marriage will of course pass.

This cannot be said with ANY truth, accuracy, or authority.

I'll have to second this. A bona fide relationship/marriage is really a plus, but the whole thing is still in the eyes of a CO. And they can see whatever pleases them. Or whatever they wish to see.

[John*&*his*GG 2]

Is Jordan considered a high fraud country?

I'm only asking because of our own situation. My fiancee is originally from Philippines but has been working in Amman Jordan for over a year. I am wondering if Jordan might be a little easier than Phil.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

It is probably a mid fraud consulate. But there are also aware that level of difficulty and look out for people from high fraud consulates trying to sneak through lower fraud consulates. You can expect a slightly higher than normal harassment level if you are in this class ( even if your case is perfectly legit )

[John*&*his*GG 2]

It is probably a mid fraud consulate. But there are also aware that level of difficulty and look out for people from high fraud consulates trying to sneak through lower fraud consulates. You can expect a slightly higher than normal harassment level if you are in this class ( even if your case is perfectly legit )

Well we met in the middle of her work contract so I don't think them being able to say we're sneaking will be an issue. She was already there for a few months before I even met her.

[Ashex 4]

I wish I knew more about Sudan. What's on VJ doesn't apply anymore as back then the Embassy was barebones and eventually shutdown. They opened a new embassy with a full staff last year so it's going to be totally different.

The worst I have to worry about is the people there being Sudanese, it means I'll have to call them 3 times a day to get them to do anything and harass them

[staceluvyou 6]

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